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Timeline: Romney's MLK Confusion

December 21, 2007 01:32 PM


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It's becoming increasingly hard to follow the various explanations and accounts of Mitt Romney's father, George, "marching" (so it is claimed) alongside Martin Luther King Jr. At first the former Massachusetts governor said that he saw the two walk together through the streets of Michigan. Now? Well, it depends what your definition of "saw" is. Here is a timeline of this confusing political saga.

June 23, 1963 - Then Michigan Gov. George Romney issues a proclamation in support of Martin Luther King Jr.'s march in Detroit but declines to attend, according to Susan Englander, assistant editor of the Martin Luther King Jr. Papers Project at Stanford University. A New York Times story from that time confirms the account, noting that Romney skipped the event because it fell on a Sunday.

June 1963 - Days after the march in Detroit, George Romney does attend a civil rights march in the upscale suburb, Grosse Pointe. But, according to records, King is not in attendance.

1967 - Stephen Hess and David Broder author the book "The Republican Establishment: The Present and Future of the GOP," in which they write that George Romney, "has marched with Martin Luther King through the exclusive Grosse Pointe suburb of Detroit."

March 14, 1968 - Martin Luther King makes an appearance in Grosse Pointe weeks before his assassination. There is no civil rights march and George Romney is not in attendance.

1978 - Mitt Romney, in an interview with the Boston Herald about the Mormon Church and racial discrimination, puts himself into the narrative. "My father and I marched with Martin Luther King Jr. through the streets of Detroit," he is quoted as saying.

1987 - Joe T. Darden writes the book "Detroit, Race and Uneven Development," which describes "freedom marches" around and in Detroit. The marches were sponsored by the NAACP, the book notes, and George Romney did attend one of the events. But there is no note of King also being in attendance.

April 16, 2002 - The Boston Globe reports: "As the son proudly recalls, Governor Romney was a civil rights supporter who walked the streets of Detroit with Martin Luther King Jr. "He was a social moderate . . . but on the fiscal side he was very tough. Of course, he was also the governor who proposed the first state income tax in Michigan. But don't write that," says Romney."

October 31, 2002 - Accord to the Bay State Banner: "Taking the stage, Romney opened up by invoking the memory of his father, who marched in civil rights demonstrations with Martin Luther King, Jr., and pledged to carry on that legacy."

December 6, 2007 - Romney, in a speech about his Mormon faith in Texas, declares: "I was taught in my home to honor god and love thy neighbor. I saw my father march with Martin Luther King."

December 16, 2007 - Appearing on Meet the Press, Mitt Romney declares: "You can see what I believed and what my family believed by looking at our lives. My dad marched with Martin Luther King. My mom was a tireless crusader for civil rights."

December 19, 2007 - The Boston Phoenix reports that it could find no evidence that George Romney and King ever marched together. "While the late George W. Romney, a four-term governor of Michigan, can lay claim to a strong record on civil rights," the paper notes, "the Phoenix can find no evidence that the senior Romney actually marched with King, nor anything in the public record suggesting that he ever claimed to do so."

Later that day - Eric Fehrnstron, a spokesman for the Romney presidential campaign, writes the Phoenix that Romney and King marched together, although possibly not on the same day or in the same city. "The record is convincing and clear," Fehrnstron writes, "George Romney marched with Martin Luther King and other civil rights demonstrators.

December 20, 2007 - The Detroit Free Press reports that, it too, cannot turn up records of Romney and King marching together. Fehrnstron tells the paper that Romney was "speaking figuratively, not literally."

Later in the day - Romney is asked about the discrepancies in accounts. "Did you actually see -- with your own eyes -- your father marching with Martin Luther King?," CBS News wanted to know.

Romney: "My own eyes? You know, I speak in the sense of I saw my dad become president of American Motors. I wasn't actually there when he became president of American Motors, but I saw him in the figurative sense of he marched with Martin Luther King. My brother also remembers him marching with Martin Luther King and so in that sense I saw him march with Martin Luther King." He added, "You know, I'm an English literature major as well. When we say, 'I saw the Patriots win the World Series, it doesn't necessarily mean you were there -- excuse me, the Super Bowl. I saw my dad become president of American Motors. Did that mean you were there for the ceremony? No, it's a figure of speech."

Later in the day - Speaking to reporters in Iowa, Romney tries again to explain the historical record. "If you look at the literature," he says, "if you look at the dictionary, the term 'saw' includes being aware of in the sense I've described. It's a figure of speech and very familiar, and it's very common. And I saw my dad march with Martin Luther King. I did not see it with my own eyes, but I saw him in the sense of being aware o his participation in that great effort."

December 21, 2007 - Stephen Hess, author of "The Republican Establishment," tells the Boston Herald, "The point we were making [in the book] was that the issue of Mormonism had to do with its civil rights record. Did he walk with Martin Luther King? Today, I have no idea."

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"These American values, this great moral heritage, is shared and lived in my religion as it is in yours. I was taught in my home to honor God and love my neighbor. I saw my father march with Martin Luther King. I saw my parents provide compassionate care to others, in personal ways to people nearby, and in just as consequential ways in leading national volunteer movements. "
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Do you think the "saw my parents provide compassionate care" he used associated with "and in just as consequential ways in leading national volunteer movements" was a obviusly a figurative use of "saw" or a literal use of "saw"?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 12/28/2007

I "saw" Mitt Romney be making a complete assclown of himself with all his absurd grammatical explanations. Yeah, I guess that is correct. You can definitely use it in that sense.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 12/26/2007

Maybe the most important thing about the current dust-up is it's a reminder that, once upon a time, there really were Republicans, like Romney's dad, who dared to support the civil rights movement. Mitt has his father's name; too bad he doesn't have his balls.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 AM on 12/25/2007

The vile insinuation in the Phoenix article was the second part of the sentence: "...the Phoenix can find no evidence that the senior Romney actually marched with King, nor anything in the public record suggesting that he ever claimed to do so." It implicates that Mitt made it up.

Your 1967 record is missing a MAJOR citation:
http://www.harpers.org/search?q=romney+martin+luther+king+march+
First match:

Harper's Magazine 1967 article by William V. Shannon. pg 60. http://www.harpers.org/media/pages/1967/02/pdf/HarpersMagazine-1967-02-0015313.pdf

"When the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King marched in Detroit three years ago, Romney marched with him. He is proud that he helped write a state constitution that has the most comprehensive civil-rights guarantees in the nation, including open occupancy in housing."

Clearly, the idea that Romney marched with King was not made up by Mitt and that George must have been well aware it was part of the public psyche with the publishing of Shannon's article in a nationally circulated journal. So the Phoenix's implication is clearly both vile and inaccurate.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 12/23/2007

I saw George W. Bush snort cocaine and have sex with Laura Bush.

If you look at the dictionary, the term 'saw' includes being aware of in the sense I've described. It's a figure of speech and very familiar, and it's very common. And I saw George W. Bush snort cocaine and have sex with Laura Bush. I did not see it with my own eyes, but I saw it in the sense of being aware of his two daughters and his participation in the 70's.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 12/21/2007

A Mitt supporter recently compared Romney's statement to saying "I'm glad my grandmother lived to see blacks get the vote". Is she a liar because she didn't see it with her own eyes? No, because blacks voting actually happened. That is proper idiomatic use of the verb "to see". Similarly, when Mitt says "I saw my father take over American Motors," though he didn't see it with his eyes, it did ACTUALLY HAPPEN, so that is also an idiomatic use of "see".

But George Romney NEVER marched with King. Mitt didn't see it in the literal or the figurative sense. It never happened. Period. Remember how conservatives called Gore a liar about stuff he never even said? I wait breathlessly for the VRWC to come down equally hard on Mitt. Can you imagine if a Democrat told a racially-charged whopper like this, repeatedly, and then went into Clintonesque gyrations about what the meaning of "see" is?

I'm glad Mitt got caught in this lie because it was particularly offensive for him to try to piggyback himself on the King legacy. It was worse than his transparent Massachusetts lies about supporting a woman's right to abortion care. Mitt's presidential campaign is based on being a fine upstanding man with an exceptionally moral life, but the above timeline exposes him for what he is: an opportunistic liar trying to portray himself as something other than the uncompassionate conservative he is, with a leadership role in a church that until recently regarded black men as unfit for spiritual leadership. I hope McCain will directly benefit from this in Iowa and NH on the personal integrity and trustworthiness issue.

George Romney actually had a decent civil rights record for his time. If Mitt had stuck to the truth about his father's efforts for civil rights in Michigan, it would have been a noble way to acknowledge that legacy. Pretty Mitty just couldn't help slathering it on like one dab too many of Brylcreem on hair that was already way too slick.

Mitt is toast. And it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 12/21/2007

all this slime and for what?? There is a possibility that a man could make a mistake on events that took place 54+ years ago..I'd rather guess that someone who embellishes a story on what he believes,is not necessarly lying..it could be just the Governors perception of what happened at that time.
I don't believe we have to indict everyone on every action that takes place today...
Let all of us look inward to ourselves and ask whether we've been truthful about ourselves to others in every aspect of life for the past 50 years.
We should view this part of the season, no matter what denomination you are or what political position you take...to take a stance of PEACE to you fellow man....and let's see what happens after that,.
Merry Christmas to all who are able to accept this gift of "peace" from me!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 12/21/2007

The Delusional mind of Mitt Romney.

Just like the faith of his fathers, Mitt has told himself these lies so often and for so long, he really believes it. Just as he believes in the angel Moroni and the gold tablets that little farmer boy Joseph Smith found.

Tell yourself lies over a long enough period of time, and the delusional mind will believe anything.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 12/21/2007


What a bonehead claim to make if you can't prove it.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 12/21/2007
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Sam Stein is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, based in Washington, D.C. Previously he has worked for Newsweek magazine, the New York Daily News and the investigative journalism group Center for Public Integrity. He has a masters from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and is a graduate of Dartmouth College. Sam can be reached at stein@huffingtonpost.com.


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