RIAA Says No To Transferring Legally Purchased Music From CD To PC

Washington Post   |  Marc Fisher   |   December 30, 2007 04:59 PM


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Despite more than 20,000 lawsuits filed against music fans in the years since they started finding free tunes online rather than buying CDs from record companies, the recording industry has utterly failed to halt the decline of the record album or the rise of digital music sharing.

Still, hardly a month goes by without a news release from the industry's lobby, the Recording Industry Association of America, touting a new wave of letters to college students and others demanding a settlement payment and threatening a legal battle.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 01/06/2008

Maybe its time to get even! Purchase no more cds for the next six months! Download everything you want! they made us pay for this bullshit. lets pay them back!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 01/03/2008

Everyone that shares a song the RECIPIENT has not paid for is indeed ripping off the artist.

You can play semantics all you want, but if you are listening to music you did not pay for you are stealing from another artist, most likely a fellow Liberal.

What I find so interesting is here you are , all you Intellectual Elites Saints that are always acting all so uppity, are trying to rationalize your crimes of stealing from the artists, by saying it is OK because you are stealing from the evil record companies.

Liberals practice SITUATIONAL ETHICS and RELATIVE MORALISM. If a Liberal breaks the law it is OK. It is just the non-Liberals that are evil thieves.

Thanks for demonstrating it so blatantly. Mirrors can teach a lot if you are honest enough to really see the reflection.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 AM on 01/02/2008

Jeez! Does that mean, starting with Microsoft and Apple, I'll have to uninstall all my CD burning and ripping equipment?

Could the above mentioned actually be accused of providing the means to aide and abet a henious crime?

Can I still copy CD to CD is that still legal?

If my CD is damaged will the Recording Company provide me with a free replacment?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 01/01/2008

I stopped buying CDs when this when the RIAA started this crap of attacking the little people for downloading and sharing.

I do buy from iTunes and RealPlayer occasionally.

BUT I had already bought just about all the music I had wanted on CD before this started so they can go fuck themselves.

Besides. I downloaded ALL of my CDs onto my computer and made copies onto CDs of the songs I really like so I can listen to them while I am driving because of the crap on radio today.

FULL CONFESSION RIAA.

Now come and get me.


Assholes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 01/01/2008

RIAA = GREED

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 01/01/2008

I find it difficult to believe an industry that ten years ago was raking in BILLIONS yearly hasn't figured this whole mess out. Ponderous. Their only reaction is lawyers and suing college students? Here's an idea. Hire some computer geeks to figure how to limit the amount of digital transfers once a CD has been ripped to a computer. Personally I think the music of today isn't all that hot. Could it be maybe musical innovation is stagnant? There used to be several groups in every genre that were successful. But now? Not so much. There's a combination of factors involved here, and illegal downloading is but one of them. Adapt or die.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 01/01/2008

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 01/01/2008

The record companies blew it when the problem started and lost all control. The number of lawsuits they file compared to the actual number is such a drop in the bucket that it won't make a difference.

The heads of the companies should be fired and run out of town for their inability to get on top of the technology change and guide their business properly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 01/01/2008

Really?

Then I'll have to do the right thing. In order to stay within the boundries of the law, I will forever refrain from buying another music CD.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 01/01/2008

To hell with the RIAA!!!!
They wonder why the music business is dying--all they have to do is to look in the mirror!!!
These people are something else--if they really cared about the interests of the musicians then maybe I would accept their arguments on such things--but the recording companies have almost always consistently screwed the "artists" who provide their content---
To hell with these evil bastards!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 01/01/2008

if that single purchased song gets PASSED around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 01/01/2008

The music industry is between a rock and a hard place. A single download onto a computer can cost thousands of dollars in sales, if that single purchased song gets past around. The number of people benefiting from that one download can increase exponentially across cyberspace.

On the other side of the issue is the rights of consumers and 50 years of legal precendent for recording for personal use on reel-to-reel, 8-track, cassette and VCR tape. Consumers are outraged at this Big Brother approach of the corporate recording industry.

The Big Platter clearly needs a new model, as we all have been aware for some time.

For our part? Eschew major record labels purchases as much as you can (I know, a hard one -- but, hey whittle it down to only a couple of your very favorite). And then support indy labels, local musicians, open mics, etc. It's part of the Localvore rationale, that whatever you do to support local benefits you more than supporting big box stores, corporate giants of any stripe, and, the big biggie, global warming/polution/dependence on foreign oil.

Once again localism trumps as the most sane solution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 01/01/2008

!
Actually I think the RIAA just can't think of any way to deal with the changing technology so they are just hunkering down in a last ditch effort to maintain the status quo.

It won't work, of course, but it sure reveals some serious flaws in both logic and practicality.

Maybe we could help by sending them some suggestions as to how the industry could remodel itself such that it could deal with present day realities.

My thinking is develop some good product. One or two good tracks on a $14 - $18 CD just forces people to copy. Very few of their products provide enough value to make a legit purchase seem worthwhile.

But I could be wrong.
!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 AM on 01/01/2008

!
Come and get me. I'm guilty.
!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 AM on 01/01/2008

And letting you friends listen to 'your' music is also illegal. Only one person at a time.

WTF is wrong with these so called lawyers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 01/01/2008

No brainer. Just subpoena (sp?) the portable music devices of the children of the execs, along with their CDs, and this issue will be deleted from memory.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 AM on 01/01/2008

What these idiots have failed to realize is that there is a difference between leasing and purchasing.

If I own it, it's mine. Period.

Interesting that the Orrin Hatch's of the world who are oh so into property rights, seem to forget that when I buy something it's my property and I should have the right to entertain myself with it in any manner I deem fit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 12/31/2007

this is terrible news i will have to delete
all the songs and then go out
any buy each disc which has one of them
this will cost a lot
but i dont mind
becasue its
important to have integrity and
i know the record companies
are totally ethical and will donate
some money to charaties
and support music awards for my
fav artists and bands.. so
i sure hope i can find a
disc store with all those songs..
in china its the year of the rat

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 12/31/2007


Leave it to a lawyer to state that if I move my purchased music from my CD to my Computer, I've committed a theft.

And this would be different from moving my purchased socks, from the top drawer, to the middle drawer?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 12/31/2007

Look.

When you steal songs, you deprive the distributors of many dollars of profit. However, you deprive money from the artists too, like many, many pennies.

I often get/share a track to learn about the performer (can't hear squat from the Amazon samples), but then I get the CD (new, used or download).

I wish I could make a deal with performers or their agents and skip around the distributors, man.

But most of all, when albums/CDs are no longer available, I get incensed that I cannot find the tracks for love or money.

There has to be a better way than the music industry screwing up the relationship between performers and their fans (classical, world, pop, punk and rock...)

Ugh.

--UB.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 12/31/2007

The record industry needs to be boycotted. They are artist out they, who bypassed them and they are still hot about that. I worked in the industry, and they are a lazy fat crew. And they can be very vicious. But times are changing and its about time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 12/31/2007

I thought that when you purchased something and you had legal title, you could do with it anything you wanted too. Well Hollywood wants to restrict your freedom. The record industry is very strange. They want to own everything. I bet if they could charge you for your level of enjoyment they would charge you if they could get away with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 12/31/2007

It will be interesting to hear what the courts say on this. I think they will say making a copy on your pc of a cd you've paid for is resonable use. If not what about stuff that's not available on iTunes? I have several things on my MP3 that I couldn't buy from iTunes if I wanted to. A couple are even transfers from vinyl because they never made it to cd even. I've contacted a couple of artists about transfering old vinyl to digital media and they said they had no problem with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 12/31/2007

If this news item is indeed factual, what a bunch of desperate losers these people are! I can't buy a CD & put it on my computer to enjoy while I'm working? Do these execs want to alienate their entire consumer group? Frankly, if I can't buy a CD for my own use, I don't ever want to buy a CD. Uh, why would I? Maybe the singers should reflect on what this might mean to them. Similar ridiculous ideas: don't buy a recipe book & put the recipe on the computer for future reference!! Don't send personal photos to friends, because people in the photo may want royalties!! Don't invite friends over to watch a movie-- you are infringing on the copyright by showing it to them!! Hey, entertainment people, get a grip!! We are your consumers & clients!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 12/31/2007
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