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Ron Paul's Polling Firm Behind Anti-Mormon Phone Calls

January 3, 2008 03:56 PM


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The New Hampshire Attorney General has determined that anti-Mormon push polls employed earlier this fall were organized by the polling firm Moore-Information, Inc.

Read the press release.

Moore Information has not yet confirmed the sponsor of the poll, but the firm lists presidential candidate Ron Paul as one of its clients. Paul is the only presidential client listed on Moore's website.

See Moore Information's client list here.

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Ron Paul has been listed as a client of Moore Info for a long time. According to archive.org (the "wayback machine") he was on Moore's client list way back in May 2006. That wouldn't rule out him having had some new stuff done *as well*, but it seems the FEC filings for the last quarter of 2007, when this push polling was being done and would presumably have been paid for, do rule that out.

According to http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/016522.php

"I have searched the FEC filings for those candidates who have already submitted their Q4 campaign records, and see no disbursements for Moore Information. That includes Romney, Giuliani, Paul, Huckabee, Thompson, Clinton, and Richardson. McCain hasn't filed yet, but he co-initiated the complaint, which makes him a very unlikely suspect."

There's no story here. There's nothing except an unfounded smear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 01/06/2008

A few more days and I'll be voting for Ron Paul in New Hampshire.

Live Free or Die!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 01/05/2008

Did you read the New Hampshire D.O.J. press release? If you did, you know that we don't know who is behind the push poll. And we likely wont know until AFTER the New Hampshire primary. Knowing this, Will Thomas and The Huffington Post put up a piece STRONGLY implying that the push poll was the work of Ron Paul. I believe that this is a deliberate smear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 01/05/2008

Wow. Where did my earlier posts go? Although not a Paul supporter, I thought it might be useful to post a link to his writings so that people could read it for themselves.

That would be the Democratic way would it not? Or is Huffpo proving that the rabid on both sides of the political spectrum are willing to mislead to further their agenda?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 01/05/2008

I'm not saying Misanthrope2 is wrong or right about anything. I am saying that you look awfully "committed" to your mission here; abnormally so.
I find it hard to grant you any credibility not that that matters.

Instead of listening to Thrope2, you can read for yourself about what Ron Paul stands for right here:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html

For the record, I have no favorite and am not supporting any one candidate.

P.S. Very well done Gringo 1492.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 AM on 01/05/2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EKLPNnZqhI

Dr. Paul on Bill Moyer's Tonite.

...and to the Dennis Kucinich Fans, he was on there

as well.

"You and Dennis Kucinich are usually said to be the winners of those debates.."-Bill M

"Yeah and yet..some people I guess, they don"t want to hear our message"-Ron P

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 01/05/2008

Fascinating no confirmation and this is still

up on the front page.

Is huffpo going for their Masters in Koshackery.

Huff Po delivering lies and craptacular smears

since 2005.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 01/04/2008

I thought that this smear had been deleted by Huffington Post.

A soldier's story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uk-T46soz8

Ron Paul on Romney

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOiDC7rQHsE

NEWSWEEK INTERVIEW WITH DR. PAUL

0:54 Howard Fineman:
Do you think it's a good idea, or necessary, for Mitt Romney, to a give a speech about Mormonism or the role of his faith, in his life and in the country, as he is planning on doing this week. Do you think this is good?

1:03 Dr. Paul:
I think it's tragic, that he has to. I think it should be irrelevant. The only think that should count, is his honesty, his integrity - What he thinks about foreign policy and these other things. A religious test should never be used.

and then ask yourself - hmmm. Progress for America is a client of this group. This is the Karl Rove outfit responsible for the Swift Boat ads.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 01/04/2008

To misanthrope2

"If there is no denial, it is called an admission. Ask any lawyer, no matter where his or her head is."

You are clearly not a trial lawyer because your understanding of the rules of evidence is pathetic at best. I understand now why you would confine your practice to hearings before an ALJ. First of all an adoptive admission requires that there be a specific statement such that a person would be expected to deny it. FRE 801(d)(2)(B). I"ll not go into the jurisprudence on the subject to add context as I don"t think it necessary. In this situation the specific accusation would have to be either RP, his staff or Moore Information as his agent stated that the push poll was conducted at the behest of the RP campaign. Put simply there is nothing of the kind set forth in the article. It therefore follows that neither RP nor his campaign can be said to have adopted a statement never uttered. Consider this a motion in limine.

At best there is a paucity of circumstantial evidence that RP had any thing to do with the push poll. Considering RP"s statements on religion in general, and regarding MR"s mormonism in particular, one needn"t think long or hard on the matter. (BTW, prior consistent statements are generally not allowed).

It is rather pathetic the way you repeatedly lay claim to your status as a lawyer every other time you post a reply on RP threads. Evidently, you gain some sort of satisfaction by exalting in your status as lawyer. You might consider that education is no substitute for grace, or wisdom, or fairness, or the myriad of other things that go into making one a redeeming human being. The spirit of the constitution is not a terribly difficult thing to understand. Most of the paul supporters understand the spirit of our laws, of our constitution, far better than an ideologue like yourself. Spitting out references to the incorporation doctrine of the 14th and other technical aspects of constitutional jurisprudence is not argument, it"s hubris.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 01/04/2008

Another hit and run smear piece. I notied that this attack was quietly withdrawn from the main page. I won't be surprised if the baseless accusations are continuously repeated by others though as proof of how bad Paul is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 01/04/2008

Justin Raimondo AntiWar.com
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12156

"Paul's campaign has been a shot in the arm for the antiwar movement: not only is he the only GOP candidate who effectively debunks the rationale for the war, but he also challenges our empire-building project in the Middle East and wants our troops " worldwide " to come home. Alone among the candidates of either party, he presents a comprehensive analysis of why we are where we are, and how to get out."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 01/04/2008

Shame on Ron Paul. And shame on his followers for defending what we are determined to put an end to. But is the Republicans want to insist on supporting and defending bad behavior from their leaders, all the better for the rest of the Nation that is done with it. When an American makes up their mind, its done. And the collective mind is being made up that winning is not the prize. Being a decent human being is the prize.

Ron Paul supporters time to move on. Time to support a better candidate. Stand up and ask for better, you've earned it.
This year vote Decent Human Being for President. Vote Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 01/04/2008

What a lame story for Huffpo to put up. A photo of Paul looking dejected with a gossipy headline? Are you serious?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 01/04/2008

BS their client list also includes just about every Republican party organization (I wouldn't be surprised if any of them realized nominating Romney might guarantee a loss in the general). It also includes Bush/Cheny 2000, 2004. I wouldn't put anything past either one of those two, including this.

Paul, on the other hand, has always stated his positions clearly and honestly, even when they are PROFOUNDLY unpopular. He's the last person on the list I would suspect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 01/04/2008
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