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Ron Paul's Polling Firm Behind Anti-Mormon Phone Calls

January 3, 2008 03:56 PM


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The New Hampshire Attorney General has determined that anti-Mormon push polls employed earlier this fall were organized by the polling firm Moore-Information, Inc.

Read the press release.

Moore Information has not yet confirmed the sponsor of the poll, but the firm lists presidential candidate Ron Paul as one of its clients. Paul is the only presidential client listed on Moore's website.

See Moore Information's client list here.

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Ron Paul has been listed as a client of Moore Info for a long time. According to archive.org (the "wayback machine") he was on Moore's client list way back in May 2006. That wouldn't rule out him having had some new stuff done *as well*, but it seems the FEC filings for the last quarter of 2007, when this push polling was being done and would presumably have been paid for, do rule that out.

According to http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/016522.php

"I have searched the FEC filings for those candidates who have already submitted their Q4 campaign records, and see no disbursements for Moore Information. That includes Romney, Giuliani, Paul, Huckabee, Thompson, Clinton, and Richardson. McCain hasn't filed yet, but he co-initiated the complaint, which makes him a very unlikely suspect."

There's no story here. There's nothing except an unfounded smear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 01/06/2008

A few more days and I'll be voting for Ron Paul in New Hampshire.

Live Free or Die!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 01/05/2008

Did you read the New Hampshire D.O.J. press release? If you did, you know that we don't know who is behind the push poll. And we likely wont know until AFTER the New Hampshire primary. Knowing this, Will Thomas and The Huffington Post put up a piece STRONGLY implying that the push poll was the work of Ron Paul. I believe that this is a deliberate smear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 01/05/2008

Wow. Where did my earlier posts go? Although not a Paul supporter, I thought it might be useful to post a link to his writings so that people could read it for themselves.

That would be the Democratic way would it not? Or is Huffpo proving that the rabid on both sides of the political spectrum are willing to mislead to further their agenda?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 01/05/2008

I'm not saying Misanthrope2 is wrong or right about anything. I am saying that you look awfully "committed" to your mission here; abnormally so.
I find it hard to grant you any credibility not that that matters.

Instead of listening to Thrope2, you can read for yourself about what Ron Paul stands for right here:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html

For the record, I have no favorite and am not supporting any one candidate.

P.S. Very well done Gringo 1492.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 AM on 01/05/2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EKLPNnZqhI

Dr. Paul on Bill Moyer's Tonite.

...and to the Dennis Kucinich Fans, he was on there

as well.

"You and Dennis Kucinich are usually said to be the winners of those debates.."-Bill M

"Yeah and yet..some people I guess, they don"t want to hear our message"-Ron P

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 01/05/2008

Fascinating no confirmation and this is still

up on the front page.

Is huffpo going for their Masters in Koshackery.

Huff Po delivering lies and craptacular smears

since 2005.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 01/04/2008

I thought that this smear had been deleted by Huffington Post.

A soldier's story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uk-T46soz8

Ron Paul on Romney

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOiDC7rQHsE

NEWSWEEK INTERVIEW WITH DR. PAUL

0:54 Howard Fineman:
Do you think it's a good idea, or necessary, for Mitt Romney, to a give a speech about Mormonism or the role of his faith, in his life and in the country, as he is planning on doing this week. Do you think this is good?

1:03 Dr. Paul:
I think it's tragic, that he has to. I think it should be irrelevant. The only think that should count, is his honesty, his integrity - What he thinks about foreign policy and these other things. A religious test should never be used.

and then ask yourself - hmmm. Progress for America is a client of this group. This is the Karl Rove outfit responsible for the Swift Boat ads.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 01/04/2008

To misanthrope2

"If there is no denial, it is called an admission. Ask any lawyer, no matter where his or her head is."

You are clearly not a trial lawyer because your understanding of the rules of evidence is pathetic at best. I understand now why you would confine your practice to hearings before an ALJ. First of all an adoptive admission requires that there be a specific statement such that a person would be expected to deny it. FRE 801(d)(2)(B). I"ll not go into the jurisprudence on the subject to add context as I don"t think it necessary. In this situation the specific accusation would have to be either RP, his staff or Moore Information as his agent stated that the push poll was conducted at the behest of the RP campaign. Put simply there is nothing of the kind set forth in the article. It therefore follows that neither RP nor his campaign can be said to have adopted a statement never uttered. Consider this a motion in limine.

At best there is a paucity of circumstantial evidence that RP had any thing to do with the push poll. Considering RP"s statements on religion in general, and regarding MR"s mormonism in particular, one needn"t think long or hard on the matter. (BTW, prior consistent statements are generally not allowed).

It is rather pathetic the way you repeatedly lay claim to your status as a lawyer every other time you post a reply on RP threads. Evidently, you gain some sort of satisfaction by exalting in your status as lawyer. You might consider that education is no substitute for grace, or wisdom, or fairness, or the myriad of other things that go into making one a redeeming human being. The spirit of the constitution is not a terribly difficult thing to understand. Most of the paul supporters understand the spirit of our laws, of our constitution, far better than an ideologue like yourself. Spitting out references to the incorporation doctrine of the 14th and other technical aspects of constitutional jurisprudence is not argument, it"s hubris.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 01/04/2008

Another hit and run smear piece. I notied that this attack was quietly withdrawn from the main page. I won't be surprised if the baseless accusations are continuously repeated by others though as proof of how bad Paul is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 01/04/2008

Justin Raimondo AntiWar.com
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12156

"Paul's campaign has been a shot in the arm for the antiwar movement: not only is he the only GOP candidate who effectively debunks the rationale for the war, but he also challenges our empire-building project in the Middle East and wants our troops " worldwide " to come home. Alone among the candidates of either party, he presents a comprehensive analysis of why we are where we are, and how to get out."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 01/04/2008

Shame on Ron Paul. And shame on his followers for defending what we are determined to put an end to. But is the Republicans want to insist on supporting and defending bad behavior from their leaders, all the better for the rest of the Nation that is done with it. When an American makes up their mind, its done. And the collective mind is being made up that winning is not the prize. Being a decent human being is the prize.

Ron Paul supporters time to move on. Time to support a better candidate. Stand up and ask for better, you've earned it.
This year vote Decent Human Being for President. Vote Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 01/04/2008

What a lame story for Huffpo to put up. A photo of Paul looking dejected with a gossipy headline? Are you serious?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 01/04/2008

BS their client list also includes just about every Republican party organization (I wouldn't be surprised if any of them realized nominating Romney might guarantee a loss in the general). It also includes Bush/Cheny 2000, 2004. I wouldn't put anything past either one of those two, including this.

Paul, on the other hand, has always stated his positions clearly and honestly, even when they are PROFOUNDLY unpopular. He's the last person on the list I would suspect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 01/04/2008

Hm, the attorney general press release does not say anything about Paul being a suspect. The HP article does not say in what way the calls are "anti-Mormon". Also, surely if one of the other presidential candidates had hired the company to conduct an illegal push pull they would have hired them using their own name rather than a front organization.

I hope HP has the integrity to print a full and humble retraction when it is shown that Paul had nothing whatsoever to do with any push pulling as they just published.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 01/04/2008

Ron Paul is the most respectable person on the stage.. if they would let him on the stage.he is the real republican the rest are fake,hes old school like our fore fathers,only one who really cares about your freedoms and wants to restore the constitution.Thats a piece of paper that keeps control on the govt,and protects our freedoms,and they are slowing tearing it up and Ron Paul know that it must be restored.All the other candidates will sell us out ,wake up sheeple..if ron doesnt win we are skrewd,we will be called Amaros..better learn spanish..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 AM on 01/04/2008

If this article is factually accurate, it is also terribly lacking in information.

The Moore Information client list is a mile long. See for yourself.

http://www.moore-info.com/campaign.html

Money for anti-Mormon phone calls could have come from anyone on that list or not on that list. I have no reason to believe Moore Information would even necessarily list all their clients.

Essentially, Ron Paul's campaign appearing on that list is evidence of nothing.

While I cannot say there is no future in this kind of push-writing, I would encourage Will Thomas to strive to avoid submitting such non-stories in the future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 AM on 01/04/2008

Nicely done! You can smear him without even claiming he's responsible. Just link his name to the offending party. A little like saying Hilary Clinton's party supports illicit sexual affairs inside the White House!It's just as reasonable to suppose one of the other current office holders on the list (most likely a Republican Party hack, because he scares them even more than he scares the Democrats) hired them to do this "push poll," which, by the way, according to your own article doesn't even violate the law because the law "doesn't apply to presidential primaries." How about waiting to find out who actually hired this outfit to do the dirty deed?
Do you word your headlines in this way because the good doctor scares you, too?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 AM on 01/04/2008

Hell,I'd make anti-Mormon phone calls.

But I would also make anti-Baptist,Pentecostal,etc. calls too.

I sepise Christians of all flavors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 AM on 01/04/2008

I hope this is an end to Rue Paul. He is one of the few people I think would be worse for America than W has been. Unless they could revive Rasputin or Pol Pot, or manage to keep Cheney's heart pumping long enough for him to serve a term as president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 01/04/2008

There are reports here in Boston on Fox that the Rudy campaign is behind the push poll. If true, HuffPost should retract immediately and offer a FORMER APOLOGY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 AM on 01/04/2008

RON PAUL'S FOREIGN POLICY...........IS A GOOD ONE, BUT HIS DOMESTIC PHILOSOPHY IS ODD TO SAY THE LEAST....................AND HIS SUPPORTERS ARE AS ODD .
RON PAUL DOES NOT FIT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, MORE LIKE LIBERTARIAN AND SO HIS FOLLOWERS SHOULD HAVE PREFERRED kucinich. who is better on domestic policies too

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 01/04/2008

And they keep accusing us Paul supporters as conspiracy theorists. HuffPost, that is mean what you just did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 01/03/2008

Will, if guilt by association is your point, where pray tell does that leave us our finger to point considering as Americans, we're each associated with all Americans?
If you and George Bush both enjoy a particular food, am I now allowed to consider you in league with the devil?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 01/03/2008
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