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GOP Looks Ahead To Fight With Obama For White House

January 4, 2008 02:13 PM


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Heading into the primary season, conventional wisdom held that Hillary Clinton was virtually the only figure who could rally a divided and relatively cash-strapped Republican Party. Clinton, after all, had negative rankings higher than any other Democrat, and has long been viewed derisively within many GOP circles.

So with Sen. Barack Obama, D-IL, vaulting over Clinton in Thursday's Iowa caucus, Republican rank-and-file must surely be a bit disappointed, right? Well, yes and no.

While GOP insiders see an easier, more traditional path towards defeating Clinton in a general election, they also are relatively confident in their ability to mount a successful run against Obama should he emerge the Democratic victor. Far from the personalized campaign that would be deployed against Clinton - whom they still believe has a strong chance of capturing the nomination - attacks against Obama would be rooted primarily in policy differences.

"The trouble with Obama is that it is hard to attack the generic, positive appeal that he offers, just as it was hard in 1976 to get a bead on Jimmy Carter," Steve Hayward, a fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, told the Huffington Post. "Oddly enough, there is a prospect that the best course for the GOP would be to press Obama about his specific policy ideas, and then debate the substance of them. Imagine that!"

Indeed, while Obama fairs better than Clinton against every potential Republican challenger, most GOP observers still expect a close White House race. Republicans may be hesitant to make an issue of Obama's personal attributes - preferring to let outside groups do the dirty work lest they be viewed as racially insensitive - but there are several areas in his political resume that could spark conservative backlash.

"In some ways Hillary Clinton is seen by Republicans as more rational on national security issue and on issue of defense. And if the Democratic Party continues to be in turmoil over how to conduct foreign policy and national security policy, Republicans don't have much to worry about," said Terry Holt, a partner in the Republican lobbying firm HDMK and national spokesman for president Bush's 2004 campaign. "Republicans know Hillary is scary, no question about it. But by general election time, Barack Obama will be at least as scary."

And yet, not every Republican strategist sees Obama weaknesses that are ripe for GOP picking. His health care plan, for starters, does not require a mandate (unlike Clinton's or Sen. John Edwards') making it less susceptible to cross-party-line attack. And his willingness to buck the trend on some foreign policy issues - such as saying he would target Osama bin Laden in Pakistan should the Pakistani government prove uncooperative - don't align him with traditional Democratic thinking.

"If he is the nominee you won't be able to fight the war with the conventional weapons," said Craig Shirley, president of Shilrey and Bannister Public Affairs. "The weapons tried and tested against the Clintons and against Hillary - the whole specter of big sister, I'm watching you, her adoration of government as a panacea for all the ills of society - can't really be used on Obama. This guy is not only a very good politician, I also think he is more conservative than people give him credit for."

And while, admittedly, there is no Republican presidential campaign who has emerged as a potential Obama-slayer, it is also far beyond premature to rule Clinton out of the Democratic running.

"Hillary Clinton isn't going anywhere," said Holt. "She has the most viable national campaign of any candidate in the race. Obama is untested when it comes to the day-to-day, hand-to-hand combat of the national campaign and he hasn't been fully vetted like she has."

Added Shirley: "Hillary isn't out of this thing and won't be for a long time. She's invested her whole life in this and she raised more than 100 million dollars. These are smart people and they will find someone to take advantage in New Hampshire. They aren't going to play dead. And even if they don't win there they have a long way to go and will challenge Obama elsewhere."

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I think the Republicans days are numbered. I hope I'm right and that all the rhetoric coming from Edwards and Obama is not just that but some sincere, heartfelt opinions. Then I hope they have the courage and support to follow through and actually accomplish what ought to be done. That would make me very happy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 AM on 01/06/2008

I never watch Fox, but I decided to for a few minutes today. Harold Ford and a JulieAnnie shill, Tammy Bruce.
Bruce " Obama is the favorite of the foreign press"
"Obama is the next Jimmy Carter"
"They are calling them Barrackabee, they are both like Jimmy Carter"

Fox Bobblehead.. " Yes..thats it Jimmy Carter"
"Huckabee is an economic populist"
"Barrackabee express"

This is quite interesting, The Neocon's at Fox are busy!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 01/05/2008

Each of the three top-vote receiving Democrats won significantly more than twice as much as the top Republican. In a Republican state.

And if you look at money in the bank, you can say the same thing. The Democrats are poised with money in the bank, a very strong agenda, and they are running a very strong batch of candidates, while according to the CBS poll taken last March, almost 3 in 5 Republicans were dissatisfied with their candidates.

And I'd bet, that number is greater today.

This will be perhaps the greatest margin of victory for a non-sitting President in a century.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 01/05/2008
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You say the GOPERS are getting ready to take on Obama? So let's see, they can't use the "swiftboaters" and he hasn't been in D.C. long enough for them to have any crap on him, so of course they will make it up, I bet Rove is drooling right now and him and Cheney are on the phone plotting how they will take out Obama without playing the "race card"! Sorry boys but your all toast. Take your rich white asses and lies and corruption and leave already. The American people are on a crusade to take back their country, and believe me the GOPERS aren't part of the plan!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 01/05/2008

Obama glanced over at the Republicans supporting MotherHucker...and he cackled like Hillary.

Democrats will beat Huckabigot with ONE word

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1210139/DuelingHucks.jpg
EVOLUTION

Huckabigot will also kill every Repig riding the coat tails of MotherHucker.from Senate seat to School Board.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1210139/LOSERS21stCentury.jpg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 01/05/2008

Republicans in Washington are now wetting their pants. For two years they have insisted that they are afraid of Clinton, but that's a lie. They would LOVE to run against Clinton. They have enough on Bill Clinton to create a 4-year roadblock that would prevent HC from accomplishing anything.

The ticket they fear, the one they cannot defeat, is Obama and Edwards. Only one can get the nomination. If they run together, their combined numbers and grass roots support will demolish the GOP.

So I say again: OE/08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 01/05/2008

Kucinich wins Independent poll of 80,000

Kucinich 76%
Edwards 9%
Obama 4%
Clinton 2%
Gravel 2%
Richardson 1%

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/29506

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 01/05/2008

Obama looks over at Rpigs supporting MotherHucker and he cackled like Hillary.

Democrats will beat motherHucker with ONE word.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1210139/DuelingHucks.jpg

evolution

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 01/05/2008
- JMEB I'm a Fan of JMEB permalink

FARES better, not FAIRS better. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 01/05/2008
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It's pretty clear from the article, they want Hillary. They are prepared to lose if Obama is the Dems nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 01/05/2008

I still think we need someone willing to fight the republican attack machine to get to the white house and the special interests once they are in the white house (that would be Edwards). I'm still not sure that Obama has what it takes to get back up when the Republican attack machine starts landing haymakers on his chin. Obama will be in the fight of his life in the general election if he wins and he better not have a glass jaw.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 01/05/2008
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Conservative policies have totally failed under George Bush, especially neo-conservative ones.
They cannot run on policy, so they have to go negative. Remember the fear campaigns of 1992 and 2004?

The slimey "Swift Boat" campaign we saw 4 years ago is a prelude to what we'll see next year, no matter who the Democrat is, Obama, Clinton, Edwards, whoever.

If Obama is the nominee, they will insinuate whatever fear they can against his name, his skin color, his supposed religion, and they will do that in code, if not directly.

This is not to say that Obama will lose the election. But does anyone not expect the powers that be not to fight with everything they've got to hold onto that power and to prevent any investigations into how they used that power? (Expect Bush's pardon list to be lengthy indeed.)

Remember Clinton's war room in 1992? Every attack was immediately responded to and countered. It seemed in 2004 that the Kerry campaign tried to "rise above" these attacks and THAT didn't work. While Obama doesn't need to play dirty back, he needs to stand up and fight, and his campaign needs to counter these attacks with the adeptness of the 1992 Clinton campaign.

It is possible to be idealistic, to motivate people AND to stand up for oneself and rapidly repond to these attacks.

We just shouldn't be shocked and naive when this campaign's "Swift Boat Veterans" slime eventually comes, against any of these candidates.

Hillary is not naive about this. Edwards shouldn't be naive about this after 2004. I hope Team Obama isn't naive about this.

You don't have to play dirty back. You do have to stand up for yourself and rapidly respond.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 01/05/2008

The Repubs know they can't nominate Huckleberry Sinn or they will have conceded that their party cannot recover from the Christian Right's takeover of it 8 years ago.

Consequently, they are trying to find a new standard bearer and have not been successful. Bush and Co. have ruined the Repubs chances for several election cycles, until the GOP is cleansed of the Christian Right's mouthy influence. The GOP is addicted to all that non-taxable church money that's flowing from uncontrolled or regulated PACs and issue ad groups.

Obama has an excellent opportunity to showcase himself against Huckleberry Sinn in NH, despite still having to run against fellow Dems in the primary.

If Obama does well in generally conservative NH, he is well on his way to a stable and viable national campaign, and everyone will sit up and listen.

Imagine: no Dem goes into the convention with a majority of delegates. Gore gives a keynote speech that causes parliamentary procedures to release delegates. They nominate Gore; Gore picks Obama as his running mate. Dems win the White House. Period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 01/05/2008

Everyone speaks of we need a change in how our government is ran.Not one candidate will get rid of the corporation ran government, get rid of lobbyist, get rid of income tax, get back to state's rights so we can control our schools etc. None of them will stop all of the waste of money going into other countries to support our military establishments, over 700 to be exact. Think about the cost to maintain these establishments, they are huge, and all of this money could be used to better our educational system, lessen our dependence on foreign oil. With the four trillion dollars that the government wasted in the past seven years, we could have installed solar energy in every home in the country, health care we could afford, last, but not least we could have real home land security.

We need change, and the only candidate that will change the way our government is ran is RON PAUL. Will that happen? The odds are against that happening, but if he does not win, look back 4, 8 10 years later, and you will find the same corrupt government in power, and you and I will be paying the price.

Change can happen, but it will not happen with the current leaders in this presidential race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 01/05/2008

Obama fits into the way the Republican party conducts elections. The Republican party wants to preside over the DSA, the DIVIDED STATES OF AMERICA and don't even want a USA. This is their strategy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 01/05/2008
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