and

how's that

stock market doin' ddh

heh...

it seems the

tax and spend republicans

have ruined the economy

Maybe the American people aren't so stupid after all. We can only hope they make the right choice since this may be our last chance.

I watched a video showing "undecided" women in Iowa who came to see Hillary and were entranced - won over - by just listening to one speech. Well, how many people voted for that folksy "guy you'd like to have a drink with" loser George W. Bush based on speeches and sound bites?

Now that Edwards is an official laughingstock, do you suppose he might want to try bringing one of Che Guevara's family members on the stump?

Weren't these polls taken BEFORE Iowa??

Can somebody point to any polls taken after Iowa? I imagine they would be a little different.

For Vogon, here is a humorous look at how huge American companies really make their money.

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-241.html

"ADM is certainly the nation's most arrogant welfare recipient. And it is one of the few welfare recipients that spend millions of dollars each year advertising on Sunday morning television shows populated and watched by politicians. Chairman Dwayne Andreas's and ADM's success in farming Washington represents the rational result of contemporary government policies that turn elections into "an advanced auction of stolen goods," as H. L. Mencken quipped. Thanks to its multi-million-dollar hustling in Washington, a company that lives and dies on the generosity of the American taxpayer has managed to get itself revered as a great public servant. Although ADM is not the only corporation with its hand out in Washington, it is easily one of the most successful beggars on the block.(1)"

"The Archer Daniels Midland Corporation (ADM) has been the most prominent recipient of corporate welfare in recent U.S. history. ADM and its chairman Dwayne Andreas have lavishly fertilized both political parties with millions of dollars in handouts and in return have reaped billion-dollar windfalls from taxpayers and consumers. Thanks to federal protection of the domestic sugar industry, ethanol subsidies, subsidized grain exports, and various other programs, ADM has cost the American economy billions of dollars since 1980 and has indirectly cost Americans tens of billions of dollars in higher prices and higher taxes over that same period. At least 43 percent of ADM's annual profits are from products heavily subsidized or protected by the American government. Moreover, every $1 of profits earned by ADM's corn sweetener operation costs consumers $10, and every $1 of profits earned by its ethanol operation costs taxpayers $30."

These are the kind of friends Obama has.

DEATH TO BIG BUSINESS AND CORPORATE PROFITS!!!
-VogonsCryptolect
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That is a straw man. No one is saying that big businesses should die.

We are talking about excessive corporate influence on public policy.

I don't know if Edwards is the right candidate, but his message is sopt on.

Corporatism is the root of many major problems in our country. Examples:

-Healthcare
-Unnecessary wars (for oil)
-Lack of good environmental policies
-Lack of a comprehensive energy policy

You get rid of excessive corporate influence on our government, you attack all the above problems at once.

This is the scientific approach to problem solving.

From another thread:

"Hillary's aides point to Obama's extremely progressive record as a community organizer, state senator and candidate for Congress, his alliances with "left-wing" intellectuals in Chicago's Hyde Park community, and his liberal voting record on criminal defendants' rights as subjects for examination."

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Clearly, Hillary wants to move further to the right of Obama.

I hope that the more she does that, the more she falls in the polls.

On the other hand, Kucinich clearly prefers Obama. While that may or may not heve helped him much in Iowa, I doubt that it hurt him.

I sense a trend here for Dems. And I like it.

This is a joke, right. In this picture, is that Hillary all dressed up in a costume just like George Bush loves to dress up in a costume?

She is becoming more and more like Bush every day. This photo of Hillary with the baseball cap on and dressed for a foray on the water, is just plain PR ridiculousness. IT IS WHAT WE ARE SICK OF UNDER BUSH. Can't she see that? This is "change" like she likes to tout, while advocating going back to the nineties where her HUSBAND and not she, reigned supreme? She is absurd dressing up like this.

One common theme between Huckabee and Obama is neither one of them are in bed with Wall Street.

I think this erosion of the leads held by Clinton and Romney are more than the "Iowa bounce" that Mr. Zogby refers to. If that turns out to be true, the status quo is going to have a cow. Right now they appear to be in a nervous denial.

"Cow" away guys...

i will never really warm to either hil or barack...there's something about them that seems woefully insincere...and i have to watch as my boy johnny e's chances go up in flames in 72 hours...this will be another year of "hold your nose and vote the ticket" for me...

The Reuters story describes Obama as the man "who would be the first black American President". Sorry Reuters, the President of the United States represents people, not a color. Get over it. Bill Clinton broke the color barrier when he declared himself the first black President. It is time to move on. Obama is taking the next step. Please get your racist bias out of your news reports.

I'm glad there's going to be a debate tonight because I think Hillary's done the best in most of the prior debates--gives the most substanitive answers and her programs stand up to scrutiny the best. Hope that matters to a lot of people because we need good programs badly. I like Barack Obama but think his thin experience will make him a poor candidate in November--the Repubs will eat that up alive. Look what they did to someone like John Kerry! They'll have him looking like a high school senior running for President of the US and the Repub candidate will look like the strong responsible figure who will protect our country. They don't play nice and up to now it still sells in a lot of places. I like his message of unity but underneath that there isn't too much and that will be exploited mercilessly. Good luck to us (Dems)!

David Brooks was on NPR stating that voters have an issue with how authority is used in Washington.

My goodness, David, what a pretty way of saying that Americans are sick of corporations profiting from war, running up healthcare costs and sucking the blood out of the U.S. Treasury. The government is no longer for the people, it's for big business.

The old John McCain prior to 2000 would have been the best candidate the Republicans could field. Sadly, the new John McCain is the best candidate the Republicans can field.

I'm very relieved that the 'inevitable' Hillary isn't so inevitable anymore. She's in it for the long haul and will fight tooth and nail which will continue to hurt her. I don't think she'll fight as dirty as Rove did for Bush which is a good thing.

And Guiliani's poll number is even lower than the margin of error!!!!!! :)