Clinton Attacks Obama For Opposing Mandatory Minimum Sentences

ABC News   |  Kate Snow   |   January 5, 2008 12:24 AM


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Aiming at Obama's signature rhetoric, Clinton said what America needs is someone who can "actually deliver change" not "false hopes."

While the senator was vague, her campaign pointed out to ABC News examples of Obama's liberal positions. In 2004, Obama said he would vote to abolish mandatory minimum sentences for federal crimes. "Mandatory minimums take too much discretion away from judges," Obama said in an NAACP debate.

The Clinton campaign also accused Obama of flip-flopping. They pointed to a statement Obama made in 2003 that he was "a proponent of a single-payer healthcare program." Obama is not calling for a single-payer plan now.

A spokesman for Obama called the charges false attacks.

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- johnmorgan I'm a Fan of johnmorgan 15 fans permalink


Hillary criticizes Obama for opposing harsher prison sentences?

We have the highest incarceration rate in the western world, for cryin' out loud! How much harsher can we possibly make them? Is this woman a Democrat or a Republican?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 01/05/2008
- johnmorgan I'm a Fan of johnmorgan 15 fans permalink

"Hillary's aides point to Obama's extremely progressive record as a community organizer, state senator and candidate for Congress, his alliances with "left-wing" intellectuals in Chicago's Hyde Park community, and his liberal voting record on criminal defendants' rights as subjects for examination."

If Hillary thinks these things are bad, then why doesn't she run as a Republican?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 01/05/2008
- LegalCat I'm a Fan of LegalCat 5 fans permalink

The headline should read "Hillary blasts Obama for not being Republican enough." Jesus, what's next? Obama will raise your taxes? Obama supports keeping prayer out of public schools? Obama is against totally unregulated laissez-faire capitalism?

Go, Hillary. Show those New Hampshire Democrats how much of a Republican you really are. Obama doesn't NEED attack ads; you're doing the job for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 01/05/2008

America has 2.5 million people in prison. That's too damn many. That's a higher percentage than almost any other country. Long mandatory minimums for even small amounts of drugs is destroying as many lives as the drugs. The war on drugs is a failure. The punishment should be appropriate to the crime. We are creating a permanent criminal class that will be much to America's shame in the long run.

DNA has exonerated many a convicted felon. It seems we are to eager to punish someone anyone just to show that we are being tough on crime. Is that justice?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 01/05/2008
- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 11 fans permalink

This is another smoke and mirrors. The average American dose not understand the law. When the law is very straight forward, with no common since, people go to prison for the wrong reason. Like many cases that are in the news lately. Like the case with the 17 year old young man in GA with the 15 year old girl. He went to prison for two years. What he did was not right, but it was not force on anyone. So we need to have some exception to the rule or you will have people going to prison and coming out worse than the were.

America we need a gut check

Hillary you do not believe your own statement. You just will do and say anything to become president. What a shame. She must be looking for Willie Horton. LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 01/05/2008
- wildhorse I'm a Fan of wildhorse 2 fans permalink

Yeah, Let's Get Ready to Rumble! Yeah, let the mudslinging begin!

This is America the greatest most powerful nation in the world. These candidates are running for President and Americans need to know if they can handle the job or not.

When did American politics become so boring and politically correct? Stop all of this niceness, cotton candy and lollipop crap, and let's begin separating the boys from the men and the girls from the women.

THESE CANDIDATES ARE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. WHICH ONE OF THEM CAN HANDLE IT?

COME ON AMERICA, STOP BEING WHIMPS! LET'S BRING IT ON! LET'S BRING IT ON!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 01/05/2008
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Does anyone really think that Hillary is not a classic Republican? Pro war, law and order and business friendly is not what a real Democrat preaches.

The problem is that regardless of Obama's calls for change, his votes in the Senate are very much the same as Hillary's. How come neither has promised to restore our Habeas Corpus rights, to end the illegal domestic spying and reverse the gains of corporatism?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 01/05/2008

War Crimes should never be investigated, this would take our focus off of minor drug crimes. How can we condone drug use of any kind and survive as society?!?!? Does any one know where I can get some Oxycontin???, its OK I'm WHITE, and a rich radio host. Thanks Rush L

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 01/05/2008

We've got to lock up black kids for minor drug offenses, or civilization as we know it will collapse. Aside from War, unnecessary Incarceration is the best possible use of your tax dollar. Would you rather lock up a poor kid or educate them??!?? The answer is so obvious if you are conservative. Lock up all the damned dirt hippies and leftist druggies and throw away the key!! Speaking of drugs, does anyone have any for me? Its OK I'm White and Republican, wink wink---Thanks Rush L

America must never lose the Drug War--we will never "surrender" to damned dirty hippies. See you in Church! And remember Jesus HATES people with long hair and beards!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 01/05/2008
- geobushono I'm a Fan of geobushono 15 fans permalink

ok so TWO DEMS just embarassed this anachronism, and her response is lock up urban youth.....­brilliant.­...rudy wishes he had the stones to be so blatant.
do you think she's drinking before noon?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 01/05/2008

The first thing that struck me about this is that this is where Hillary is misreading the electorate right now.
This is what we *want.* We *want* someone who will risk political pressure by saying, supporting things like the ending of mandatory sentencing so Judges can take all info into account. We *want* someone who has taken "extremely" progressive positions, who has had alliances with left wing intellectuals... who votes in favor of defendants rights. We're sick to death of the so called "compassionate conservatism" that masks the punitive sadism of the idiot king and his minions.
People on the right keep calling Hillary a left wing liberal. I don't get it.
In fact there are very few real liberals left. Most of those who are called liberals today would have been called centrist and even somewhat conservative back in the day... (Kucinich is a liberal) I would not call her right wing but she is definitely not a liberal.
She became a centrist to become electable long time ago... first to get Bill elected and now herself.; I do think she believes what she says, I'm just not cynical enough to believe otherwise...
Now she is seeing that we've had it. We want a radical shift in our country.
So thanks Hillary for bringing out Obama's bona fides.

"Obama's extremely progressive record as a community organizer, state senator and candidate for Congress, his alliances with "left-wing" intellectuals in Chicago's Hyde Park community, and his liberal voting record on criminal defendants' rights as subjects for examination."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 01/05/2008
- geobushono I'm a Fan of geobushono 15 fans permalink

is sherrie shepherd on clintons advisory council?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 01/05/2008
- AgathaX I'm a Fan of AgathaX 13 fans permalink
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Here's the encouraging thing: Hillary is done. It's sad too. I wish she could have gone out with more grace. I wish she could have gone out having real, thought provoking debates about real issues and not with stale, calculated fearmongering.

I think the only person who can lift Hillary up at this point is Obama. Not that I want her as a VP candidate. I did once, but no more. She has proved herself too petty. But in time he will praise her as a worthy adversary. Not because she was, but because he will find all the good he can in her and praise it. It is the decent thing to do.

This is an astounding election year. Why people, particularly pundits, persist in underestimating Obama is beyond me. But this I know: voters have never underestimated him. And last time I checked, that is what matters.

America for Obama


    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 01/05/2008
- Dopeman I'm a Fan of Dopeman 12 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 01/05/2008

"pointing to a 2004 statement at an NAACP-sponsored debate: "Mandatory minimums take too much discretion away from judges." "

Obama is absolutely right about this.

What is Hillary going to do next, run a Willie Horton ad against Obama?

This is straight out of Karl Rove's playbook.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 01/05/2008
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