Shaken Clinton Camp Prepares For Trench Warfare After NH

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First Posted: 01- 6-08 08:56 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Hillary Clinton's campaign, anticipating probable defeat here in New Hampshire on January 8, is gearing up for an extended trench-warfare battle against Barack Obama.

The former First Lady is planning to fight Obama in South Carolina on January 26, and in the gargantuan nationwide primary on Tuesday, February 5 -- with contests in 19 states, including New York, California, New Jersey, Georgia, Minnesota, Massachusetts, and Colorado. If she remains competitive, Clinton's plan is to continue to compete in Louisiana on February 9, in Virginia and Maryland on February 12, in Wisconsin on February 19, in Ohio on March 4 -- and beyond, if necessary.

In an approach redolent of Walter Mondale's 1984 "Where's the Beef?" tactic against Gary Hart, Clinton has adopted the less memorable slogan "Rhetoric vs. Results, Talk vs. Action."

The Clinton campaign is sparing no effort to pressure the media to lean on Obama's perceived vulnerabilities. Looking to leverage Obama's slender resume, a Clinton operative argued to HuffPost that the campaign will be able to demonstrate that "Obama is just not a plausible person in this environment of international peril," and that the longer the primary campaign can be extended, the better chance Clinton will have to prove that "there is not even a second level to Obama, there is no depth."

The results of this gambit are far from certain. Many political observers here see Hillary on the ropes. "I think Iowa was the best she is going to do. Now she has the stink of a loser on her," said an official from the upper echelons of the 2004 Democratic campaign. In the upcoming states, voters "are just now starting to pay attention, and all they know is that he [Obama] is a winner and she's a loser."

Political analyst Norm Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute warned, "Tactical maneuvering at this point is of limited value, but all [Clinton] may be able to do for the moment is to try tactical stuff, and lash herself to the mast to withstand the [Obama] wave."

Like Mondale in 1984, Clinton is configuring her campaign to win in states where independents cannot vote. "Clinton got killed among independents and those few Republicans who crossed over," an Iowa operative noted about last Thursday's caucuses. After this Tuesday's New Hampshire primary, where independents can cast ballots in either the Democratic or Republican contest, "We are just going to go to the big Democratic states with closed primaries" says a member of the Clinton inner circle.

Of the upcoming nineteen February 5 primaries and caucuses, however, ten are "open" (meaning that independents can vote for a Democrat) and only nine are "closed" (meaning independents are barred).

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The question all over Democratic circles today is, what can Hillary do? Is time running out? The consensus is that she has "a real uphill fight -- a tough pull," according to observers.

The Clinton campaign counters that it is banking on the support of voters with "deep and ingrained loyalty" to the Democratic party and to the presidency of Bill Clinton -- especially on the support of poor to lower-middle class Democratic voters who are seeking government aid to pay for health care and other necessities, and who can be convinced that Clinton is best equipped to win enactment of such policies.

Many of these voters, however, are black, and African American voters have, over the course of the past year, been moving steadily to Obama. While both Bill and Hillary Clinton have had substantial support in the African-American community - Bill Clinton got roughly 90 percent of the black vote in his two presidential elections -- there could be an Obama groundswell among minority voters. "If Obama wins two white states in a row, that is going to send a signal to African Americans around the country. The African-American population is going to be excited beyond belief by the prospect of a black president," says Ornstein.

"The sixty-four thousand dollar question," according to a Democratic operative, is "whether whites will continue to vote for Obama once the novelty wears off."

Most of those interviewed for this story do not believe the novelty will wear off.

"If you put the three elements together, Obama's appeal to independents, some cross-over Republicans, and combine that with a really energized African American community, that is a pretty powerful new math for the Democrats," says Bill Carrick, a California Democratic consultant. "I think he [Obama] has got a pretty interesting coalition for the general election."

Emory University political scientist Merle Black notes that Obama is "not presenting himself as a Jesse Jackson, he is not an Al Sharpton; he is presenting himself as a Democrat who happens to be African American. There are very few white voters who would not find him very likeable." If Obama does have trouble with white voters, Black said it will be because of his "liberal record more than race."

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A number of Clinton operatives and supporters report privately that her campaign organization is beset with internal turmoil, and that Mark Penn remains in serious danger of losing his position as the senior and dominant strategist. "There are a lot of people saying Mark Penn is going to be thrown under the bus," said one source.

On the other hand, there are dissidents from this view. Norm Ornstein told HuffPost, "I am not one of those who joins in the pillorying of Mark Penn. They played the hand they had, and that hand was built around experience and nostalgia for the Clinton administration. If they had switched to a message of change six months ago, it would not have been any more credible then than it is now."

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Clinton's calculation that she can best confront Obama in the coming closed Democratic primaries is based in part on detailed analysis of the Iowa results.

The Iowa entrance polls conducted for all the major television networks - including ABC, CBS, NBC, AND CNN -- show that registered Democrats were more supportive of Clinton than either independents or the small number of Republicans who chose to participate in the Democratic caucus.

She virtually tied Obama among registered Democrats (31-32), while decisively losing independents (17-41) and Republicans (10-44). John Edwards beat her by slightly smaller, but still substantial, margins among Republicans and independents, while losing to her among Democrats.

In addition to the fact that ten of the Super Tuesday states are conducting open primaries or caucuses, there is a major short term problem: the next primary on January 26 in South Carolina is not only open, but has a large African American population likely to be drawn to Obama.

In past Democratic primary contests, the kind of coalition Obama has put together - well-educated, culturally liberal, and relatively affluent whites, eschewing the "common touch" -- was inadequate to produce victories -- not only in the case of Hart, but also in Paul Tsongas' 1992's race against Bill Clinton and Bill Bradley's race against Al Gore in 2000.

In the current election, however, Obama has at least preliminarily shown the ability to cobble together a coalition bridging the gap between upscale voters and minorities to form a winning primary-caucus alliance.

Obama is capitalizing on one of the most powerful trends in the composition of the Democratic electorate: the conversion from the GOP of growing legions of relatively affluent, suburban and urban, socially tolerant white professionals and so-called knowledge workers - ranging from pre-school teachers and data entry technicians to nuclear physicists -- who have become a major constituency, and a driving force in Democratic Party policy making.

This movement of what some have termed "the creative class" to the Democrats was sharply accelerated during the administration of Bill Clinton, and has grown stronger during the second half of the Bush years, as opposition to the war, to Bush's conservative social policies and to administration reluctance to deal with such issues as global warming has given Democrats a major boost in support. Whether Mrs. Clinton, Edwards, or Obama will benefit most from this restructured center-left coalition is not yet clear.

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In private, some of Clinton's supporters are deeply disdainful of Obama. "He is the candidate of the 'identity left'," said one, dismissively, angered by what he sees as Obama's claim that the "he's built a new majority that rises above partisanship, that somehow through his magical presence, we can rise above conflict." This Clinton supporter described Obama as afflicted with naïve idealism similar to that of Jimmy Carter.

The burden on Clinton will be, according to this strategist, to show that "this guy [Obama] is amateur hour, that it's all glitz. He thinks you can get there but you don't have to go through anything. It's dreamy, but it mainly appeals to independents."

Clinton's task has been further complicated by the continued presence in the race of John Edwards. Edwards has taken the unexpected role in New Hampshire of acting as Obama's attack dog against the New York Senator, allowing Obama to remain above the fray.

While Edwards, who beat Clinton by three-tenths of a percentage point in Iowa, currently appears destined to finish third here on Tuesday, he did force Clinton onto the defensive in Saturday's debate, calling her the advocate of the "status quo." He escalated the conflict today, charging that Clinton and her campaign "have no conscience" in turning a blind eye to the human suffering that has motivated his campaign, distorting his record of commitment to help the ill and injured with proposals for more comprehensive, broadly available medical treatment.

Edwards contended on the campaign trail this morning that he is determined to stay in the fight all the way to the Democratic convention. In the latest CNN-WMUR poll of New Hampshire Democrats, however, Edwards has lost ground, falling to16 percent, well behind Obama's 39 percent, and Clinton's 29 percent.

Hillary Clinton's campaign, anticipating probable defeat here in New Hampshire on January 8, is gearing up for an extended trench-warfare battle against Barack Obama. The former First Lady is plannin...
Hillary Clinton's campaign, anticipating probable defeat here in New Hampshire on January 8, is gearing up for an extended trench-warfare battle against Barack Obama. The former First Lady is plannin...
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- bobdob I'm a Fan of bobdob 18 fans permalink

Man, the Hillary supporters are PISSED OFF. That's OK--their girl was supposed to breeze through this without a fight, and now she's in the fight of her life and she doesn't know how to handle it. It's a good test for her presidential mettle. This primary is a good example of what the general election would be like: Hillary would be getting stomped by the Republicans and Hill's supporters would NOT be able to understand it. But it's simple, really: Hillary IS a wedge issue. Be glad she's getting beat BEFORE the general. I guarantee you if she got the nomination, the Republican turnout would be unprecedented and many independents would vote for Bloomberg or Nader or simply stay home. Hillary never had a chance to become president in the first place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 01/07/2008

All in all ...

She's just another Brick in the Wall

Bye Hillary ... Bye Clinton-Bush Regime

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 01/07/2008
- nepat I'm a Fan of nepat 4 fans permalink

Experience is just another word for nothing left to lose. So we’re stuck with it. And 35 years of it, no less. Which means Hill is factoring in every moment of her life from the moment she graduated law school and set herself loose on the world. She’s practically an experience superhero: EXPERIENCE WOMAN! The Dynamic Dame of Civic Duty! Smacking Down Slothful Junior Senators and Their Empty Rhetoric So You Don’t Have to! One of her most notable superpowers is her ability to claim as her own the experience of others! When she was First Lady of Arkansas (one of EXPERIENCE WOMAN’S first official guises) she ABSORBED the experience of the governor! When she was First Lady of the nation, she ABSORBED the experience of the president! As a ‘08 presidential candidate, she ABSORBED the campaign experiences of her competitors! CHANGE! POW! HOPE! BAM! EXPERIENCE WOMAN IS HERE!

And we’re buying this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 01/07/2008
- bluesnot I'm a Fan of bluesnot 13 fans permalink

http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20080106

Are we really electing the leader of American? Or are we just electing the best lobbyist money can buy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 01/07/2008

Where has all these 35 21years of governing experience Hillary talks about come from? She was 8 years behind the throne in the White House, 6 years New York Senator - where are the other 21??? Oh, Arkansas? She ran the government there too? No one ever heard of her before BILL got to the White House.
Sorry Hillary, same old, same old. Time for I guess inexperienced fresh ideas and change for you, McCain and the ongoing mess in Washington. I, for now, will vote for Obama and a full slate of Democrat ligislature to back him up. Yes, there will be sacrifice and taxes, but Bush has made such a mess with the world and our economy someone has to take responsibility and fix it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 01/07/2008
- MrMurder I'm a Fan of MrMurder 3 fans permalink

USA Today is a GOP mouthpiece, notably they trend Obama in every poll.

Same way they trended Kerry ahead of Dean or Clark in '04 and gave Bush the margin of error or better lead everywhere against anyone.

HuffPo using USA today polling.

That's quite a reach.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 01/07/2008
- cabgx2 I'm a Fan of cabgx2 5 fans permalink
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Hillary needs to pack up and go home. Whether home is in Arkansas, New York, or Washington, D.C., she just needs to go there and be quiet. Her poor Hillary mantra has been worked long enough. I would be surprised if the New york voters don't send her packing in the next senate campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 01/07/2008
- Ammobob I'm a Fan of Ammobob 36 fans permalink

If Osama take NH, Shrillary will be in a real fight for the nomination, though not counted out. She leads handily in National Polls against Osama, but two wins could propel Osama to heightened support in later states.

On the other side, Huckster taking Iowa, then McJohn taking NH with MittHair second in both, still leaves the field wide open. Super Tuesday will settle both races.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 01/07/2008
- OkieMon I'm a Fan of OkieMon 34 fans permalink

Obama is a kid, a pencil-necked geek. He needs to gain some weight, get some real-world experience, and come back in 8 years and when he may be presidential material.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 01/07/2008

The article said: "The Clinton campaign counters that it is banking on the support of voters with "deep and ingrained loyalty" to the Democratic party and to the presidency of Bill Clinton. . ."

Well, I'm yellow dog Democrat, I'm loyal to Bill Clinton, but I am not going to support Hillary in the SC primary. I recently heard Bill at a dinner honoring Dick Riley in Columbia, SC would run to my check book to support Bill Clinton, but I heard Hillary earlier this year in Florence, SC and it is clear the two are not comparable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 01/07/2008
- robodweeb I'm a Fan of robodweeb 127 fans permalink
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Hillary claims experience fighting the insurance and pharmaceutical companies...

As I recall, she lost.

She couldn't even handle Harry & Louise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 01/07/2008
- LaFeminazi I'm a Fan of LaFeminazi 236 fans permalink
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Dear Obama

Change = The destruction of both parties and the sacking of k Street.

Now that is what I call change

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 01/07/2008
- bluesnot I'm a Fan of bluesnot 13 fans permalink

http://www.newshounds.us/2008/01/07/dennis_kucinich_and_viggo_mortensen_on_hannity_colmes.php

It's difficult to watch that Hannity. What a gasbag. Perfect example of the Republican hysterical refrain America us up against.

Look at Kucinich. I guess those are the values a Democratic candidate is supposed to have. He's so unlike Clinton and Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 01/07/2008
- LaFeminazi I'm a Fan of LaFeminazi 236 fans permalink
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I will laugh if Hillary and Richardson withdraw after New Hampshire.

That will mean all the most qualified candidates had been eliminated.

The Dem's will be left with:

A one term non voting candidate, with a VP that served only one term and lost last time out plus he has the added benefit of being an ex trial lawyer, a winning ticket fer sure.

Go on Dem's put the repugs back to clear up their own f***ing mess, good tactic by gosh we will get em in 2016!

Edwards voting record is hardly illuminating

http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=21107

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 AM on 01/07/2008

Poor Hillary...Who wants to be the candidate to have to tell the American people that it's silly to dream...silly to have what she calls "false hope"... silly to believe this country can rise to greatness by eliminating partisanship? People are READY for Obama's message, and she's going to look like a party-pooper if she tries to throw water on all of it. She will appear to be a downer, a buzz-kill, and I think she's out of the race if she takes this approach (which would suit me fine).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 01/07/2008
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