Shaken Clinton Camp Prepares For Trench Warfare After NH

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First Posted: 01- 6-08 08:56 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Hillary Clinton's campaign, anticipating probable defeat here in New Hampshire on January 8, is gearing up for an extended trench-warfare battle against Barack Obama.

The former First Lady is planning to fight Obama in South Carolina on January 26, and in the gargantuan nationwide primary on Tuesday, February 5 -- with contests in 19 states, including New York, California, New Jersey, Georgia, Minnesota, Massachusetts, and Colorado. If she remains competitive, Clinton's plan is to continue to compete in Louisiana on February 9, in Virginia and Maryland on February 12, in Wisconsin on February 19, in Ohio on March 4 -- and beyond, if necessary.

In an approach redolent of Walter Mondale's 1984 "Where's the Beef?" tactic against Gary Hart, Clinton has adopted the less memorable slogan "Rhetoric vs. Results, Talk vs. Action."

The Clinton campaign is sparing no effort to pressure the media to lean on Obama's perceived vulnerabilities. Looking to leverage Obama's slender resume, a Clinton operative argued to HuffPost that the campaign will be able to demonstrate that "Obama is just not a plausible person in this environment of international peril," and that the longer the primary campaign can be extended, the better chance Clinton will have to prove that "there is not even a second level to Obama, there is no depth."

The results of this gambit are far from certain. Many political observers here see Hillary on the ropes. "I think Iowa was the best she is going to do. Now she has the stink of a loser on her," said an official from the upper echelons of the 2004 Democratic campaign. In the upcoming states, voters "are just now starting to pay attention, and all they know is that he [Obama] is a winner and she's a loser."

Political analyst Norm Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute warned, "Tactical maneuvering at this point is of limited value, but all [Clinton] may be able to do for the moment is to try tactical stuff, and lash herself to the mast to withstand the [Obama] wave."

Like Mondale in 1984, Clinton is configuring her campaign to win in states where independents cannot vote. "Clinton got killed among independents and those few Republicans who crossed over," an Iowa operative noted about last Thursday's caucuses. After this Tuesday's New Hampshire primary, where independents can cast ballots in either the Democratic or Republican contest, "We are just going to go to the big Democratic states with closed primaries" says a member of the Clinton inner circle.

Of the upcoming nineteen February 5 primaries and caucuses, however, ten are "open" (meaning that independents can vote for a Democrat) and only nine are "closed" (meaning independents are barred).

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The question all over Democratic circles today is, what can Hillary do? Is time running out? The consensus is that she has "a real uphill fight -- a tough pull," according to observers.

The Clinton campaign counters that it is banking on the support of voters with "deep and ingrained loyalty" to the Democratic party and to the presidency of Bill Clinton -- especially on the support of poor to lower-middle class Democratic voters who are seeking government aid to pay for health care and other necessities, and who can be convinced that Clinton is best equipped to win enactment of such policies.

Many of these voters, however, are black, and African American voters have, over the course of the past year, been moving steadily to Obama. While both Bill and Hillary Clinton have had substantial support in the African-American community - Bill Clinton got roughly 90 percent of the black vote in his two presidential elections -- there could be an Obama groundswell among minority voters. "If Obama wins two white states in a row, that is going to send a signal to African Americans around the country. The African-American population is going to be excited beyond belief by the prospect of a black president," says Ornstein.

"The sixty-four thousand dollar question," according to a Democratic operative, is "whether whites will continue to vote for Obama once the novelty wears off."

Most of those interviewed for this story do not believe the novelty will wear off.

"If you put the three elements together, Obama's appeal to independents, some cross-over Republicans, and combine that with a really energized African American community, that is a pretty powerful new math for the Democrats," says Bill Carrick, a California Democratic consultant. "I think he [Obama] has got a pretty interesting coalition for the general election."

Emory University political scientist Merle Black notes that Obama is "not presenting himself as a Jesse Jackson, he is not an Al Sharpton; he is presenting himself as a Democrat who happens to be African American. There are very few white voters who would not find him very likeable." If Obama does have trouble with white voters, Black said it will be because of his "liberal record more than race."

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A number of Clinton operatives and supporters report privately that her campaign organization is beset with internal turmoil, and that Mark Penn remains in serious danger of losing his position as the senior and dominant strategist. "There are a lot of people saying Mark Penn is going to be thrown under the bus," said one source.

On the other hand, there are dissidents from this view. Norm Ornstein told HuffPost, "I am not one of those who joins in the pillorying of Mark Penn. They played the hand they had, and that hand was built around experience and nostalgia for the Clinton administration. If they had switched to a message of change six months ago, it would not have been any more credible then than it is now."

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Clinton's calculation that she can best confront Obama in the coming closed Democratic primaries is based in part on detailed analysis of the Iowa results.

The Iowa entrance polls conducted for all the major television networks - including ABC, CBS, NBC, AND CNN -- show that registered Democrats were more supportive of Clinton than either independents or the small number of Republicans who chose to participate in the Democratic caucus.

She virtually tied Obama among registered Democrats (31-32), while decisively losing independents (17-41) and Republicans (10-44). John Edwards beat her by slightly smaller, but still substantial, margins among Republicans and independents, while losing to her among Democrats.

In addition to the fact that ten of the Super Tuesday states are conducting open primaries or caucuses, there is a major short term problem: the next primary on January 26 in South Carolina is not only open, but has a large African American population likely to be drawn to Obama.

In past Democratic primary contests, the kind of coalition Obama has put together - well-educated, culturally liberal, and relatively affluent whites, eschewing the "common touch" -- was inadequate to produce victories -- not only in the case of Hart, but also in Paul Tsongas' 1992's race against Bill Clinton and Bill Bradley's race against Al Gore in 2000.

In the current election, however, Obama has at least preliminarily shown the ability to cobble together a coalition bridging the gap between upscale voters and minorities to form a winning primary-caucus alliance.

Obama is capitalizing on one of the most powerful trends in the composition of the Democratic electorate: the conversion from the GOP of growing legions of relatively affluent, suburban and urban, socially tolerant white professionals and so-called knowledge workers - ranging from pre-school teachers and data entry technicians to nuclear physicists -- who have become a major constituency, and a driving force in Democratic Party policy making.

This movement of what some have termed "the creative class" to the Democrats was sharply accelerated during the administration of Bill Clinton, and has grown stronger during the second half of the Bush years, as opposition to the war, to Bush's conservative social policies and to administration reluctance to deal with such issues as global warming has given Democrats a major boost in support. Whether Mrs. Clinton, Edwards, or Obama will benefit most from this restructured center-left coalition is not yet clear.

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In private, some of Clinton's supporters are deeply disdainful of Obama. "He is the candidate of the 'identity left'," said one, dismissively, angered by what he sees as Obama's claim that the "he's built a new majority that rises above partisanship, that somehow through his magical presence, we can rise above conflict." This Clinton supporter described Obama as afflicted with naïve idealism similar to that of Jimmy Carter.

The burden on Clinton will be, according to this strategist, to show that "this guy [Obama] is amateur hour, that it's all glitz. He thinks you can get there but you don't have to go through anything. It's dreamy, but it mainly appeals to independents."

Clinton's task has been further complicated by the continued presence in the race of John Edwards. Edwards has taken the unexpected role in New Hampshire of acting as Obama's attack dog against the New York Senator, allowing Obama to remain above the fray.

While Edwards, who beat Clinton by three-tenths of a percentage point in Iowa, currently appears destined to finish third here on Tuesday, he did force Clinton onto the defensive in Saturday's debate, calling her the advocate of the "status quo." He escalated the conflict today, charging that Clinton and her campaign "have no conscience" in turning a blind eye to the human suffering that has motivated his campaign, distorting his record of commitment to help the ill and injured with proposals for more comprehensive, broadly available medical treatment.

Edwards contended on the campaign trail this morning that he is determined to stay in the fight all the way to the Democratic convention. In the latest CNN-WMUR poll of New Hampshire Democrats, however, Edwards has lost ground, falling to16 percent, well behind Obama's 39 percent, and Clinton's 29 percent.

Hillary Clinton's campaign, anticipating probable defeat here in New Hampshire on January 8, is gearing up for an extended trench-warfare battle against Barack Obama. The former First Lady is plannin...
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- midtown I'm a Fan of midtown 36 fans permalink

Shaken Clinton Camp Prepares For STENCH Warfare After NH.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 AM on 01/07/2008

This ought to be the real front page story:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larisa-alexandrovna/sibel-edmonds-speaks_b_80077.html

Sibel Edmonds, the FBI whistle-blower who has been gagged for years by the Bush administration over intercepts she translated while at the bureau, was willing to go to prison to get her story told. She spent years trying to get her day in court, but the State Secrets gag against her prohibited her from telling her story even to a FISA judge. After years of trying to fight her way to through the maze of the US court system, Sibel Edmonds finally decided to tell her story no matter the consequences and offered to do so to any interested US media outlets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 AM on 01/07/2008
- mcnairbo I'm a Fan of mcnairbo 8 fans permalink

Ah, enemy no.1 front and center on your site and in your sites again...Hi­llary BIN LADEN!! Oh, sorry. Let me say it right Zsa Zsa. Heeeluddy Cleeentun.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 AM on 01/07/2008
- Lisette I'm a Fan of Lisette 37 fans permalink
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Hahahahaha, poor Hillary

She really has her underwear in a bunch....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 AM on 01/07/2008
- tabatha I'm a Fan of tabatha 9 fans permalink

hmmm

lots of Hillary haters here

she seems the best prepared, smartest, most accomplished, and most capable of the remaining candidates

her recent debate answers were terrific

personally, Dodd impressed me greatly but he's history

Edwards repulses me

after his lackluster performace as Kerry's VP, how could ANYONE suggest him for VP?

his debate answer concerning what he had accomplished as senator was pitiful...­.basically a non answer and very duplicitous as Hillary tried to point out

then he digressed into pure fluff and banal generalities

Hillary has a fabulous health care proposal..­..let's face it, she's honed it since Bill's first presidency

by the way, what is her presumed secret agenda?

are some dems buying into the rethuglican vitriol?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 AM on 01/07/2008
- Mariel I'm a Fan of Mariel 10 fans permalink

Boy is this thread depressing! Looks like Dems going down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 AM on 01/07/2008
- Qbear I'm a Fan of Qbear 51 fans permalink

Obama has become a movement and Hillary can't stop him, Repigs can't stop him.
a little something for the Clintonistas

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 AM on 01/07/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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g'night

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 AM on 01/07/2008
- hu.man I'm a Fan of hu.man 9 fans permalink
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The question of Obama's experience is a red herring. How much experience did Bill Clinton have in 92 having been the governor of a 3rd rate state? He got elected and adjusted to become, by most accounts, an effective president.

With Hillary, voters are sensing that we are not getting a Clinton but a Rodham (notice how the middle name has done a vanishing act in this campaign).

I don't know what Hillary wants to prove, but it is quickly becoming apparent to vast majority of voters that Hillary is her "own person" like Gore and in being so there is a level playing field with Obama.

From what I have heard from her so far, she almost never refers to her husband's reign. I think most people are suspicious of Hillary's motivations for the higher office and her fire-brand liberalism as opposed to her husband's more moderate approach is creating a unwanted negative backlash and an upsurge for Obama.

I was often puzzled by Hillary being referred to as a polarizing figure. But now I do understand it. She, rightly or wrongly, appears to have a hidden agenda in seeking the higher office. To me, there is no question that she is highly devoted to public service. I always saw that. But now I see how the way she is going about to further her agenda is giving the appearance of being manipulative and sneaky.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 AM on 01/07/2008

So much money wasted. Such arrogance. The loss will be character building, perhaps.

Obama-Edwards 2008 is the winning ticket. And if Obama fills out his cabinet with Joe Biden and a few other experienced Democrats, the United States might be able to recover from the blight of the Bush years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 01/07/2008
- xargaw I'm a Fan of xargaw 31 fans permalink

So the Clinton are looking to those with loyalty to Bill. Well, I was a fan of Bills, but I was mad as hell when he threw it all away to fool around with Monica. Because of his frat boy behavior, nothing got done for the American People the last two years of his Presidency. And, why should we vote for one candidate (Hillary) out of some kind of loyalty to a past candidate (Bill)? That is certainly not an intelligent basis on which to cast ones vote. Frankly, her case that she is the best one to get things accomplised is not true. She is the polarizing of all. Can anyone really imagine members of the GOP in the House and Senate wanting to pass anything in a Hillary Presidency. Blocking her aims would be their highest amibition. Either Obama or Edwards could work with the other side of the aisle better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 AM on 01/07/2008
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Yes, Clinton DID have to go negative. Because when you're in a fight, you fight -- or you lose. She's in it to win it.

We've come too far to worry that Clinton will look mean, or crabby, or witchy. People -- many of them women, I might add -- have had that complaint about Clinton for years. They'll continue to complain about it regardless of what she says or how she acts.

Americans hate women. It's time we confront that head on. If hate wins -- then it wins, but it won't be without a fight.

Black people, poor people, gays, women and everyone else that George Bush has abused -- have waited 8 long, horrifying years to take back that White House and move forward again. Not forward into an unknown fantasy world of love and togetherness -- forward with long-range plans the labor party put in place long ago.

If the so-called Independents in Iowa wanted change so bad, they wouldn't have sent Bush back into office in 2004 for more of the same. "Hope" is nice, but it doesn't hold a candle to fear.

Once the hope and magic wears thin -- what's Obama going to offer as he's confronted with the reality of GOP crusaders who want to "take this nation back for Christ?"

So yes, Clinton HAD to attack Obama. Identify him as simply a democrat version of George Bush who'll stumble around and flail about in office, and finally end up as the unwitting puppet of the entrenched powers that be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 01/07/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 261 fans permalink

Electability is up to YOU, the voter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 AM on 01/07/2008
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