Shaken Clinton Camp Prepares For Trench Warfare After NH

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First Posted: 01- 6-08 08:56 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Hillary Clinton's campaign, anticipating probable defeat here in New Hampshire on January 8, is gearing up for an extended trench-warfare battle against Barack Obama.

The former First Lady is planning to fight Obama in South Carolina on January 26, and in the gargantuan nationwide primary on Tuesday, February 5 -- with contests in 19 states, including New York, California, New Jersey, Georgia, Minnesota, Massachusetts, and Colorado. If she remains competitive, Clinton's plan is to continue to compete in Louisiana on February 9, in Virginia and Maryland on February 12, in Wisconsin on February 19, in Ohio on March 4 -- and beyond, if necessary.

In an approach redolent of Walter Mondale's 1984 "Where's the Beef?" tactic against Gary Hart, Clinton has adopted the less memorable slogan "Rhetoric vs. Results, Talk vs. Action."

The Clinton campaign is sparing no effort to pressure the media to lean on Obama's perceived vulnerabilities. Looking to leverage Obama's slender resume, a Clinton operative argued to HuffPost that the campaign will be able to demonstrate that "Obama is just not a plausible person in this environment of international peril," and that the longer the primary campaign can be extended, the better chance Clinton will have to prove that "there is not even a second level to Obama, there is no depth."

The results of this gambit are far from certain. Many political observers here see Hillary on the ropes. "I think Iowa was the best she is going to do. Now she has the stink of a loser on her," said an official from the upper echelons of the 2004 Democratic campaign. In the upcoming states, voters "are just now starting to pay attention, and all they know is that he [Obama] is a winner and she's a loser."

Political analyst Norm Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute warned, "Tactical maneuvering at this point is of limited value, but all [Clinton] may be able to do for the moment is to try tactical stuff, and lash herself to the mast to withstand the [Obama] wave."

Like Mondale in 1984, Clinton is configuring her campaign to win in states where independents cannot vote. "Clinton got killed among independents and those few Republicans who crossed over," an Iowa operative noted about last Thursday's caucuses. After this Tuesday's New Hampshire primary, where independents can cast ballots in either the Democratic or Republican contest, "We are just going to go to the big Democratic states with closed primaries" says a member of the Clinton inner circle.

Of the upcoming nineteen February 5 primaries and caucuses, however, ten are "open" (meaning that independents can vote for a Democrat) and only nine are "closed" (meaning independents are barred).

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The question all over Democratic circles today is, what can Hillary do? Is time running out? The consensus is that she has "a real uphill fight -- a tough pull," according to observers.

The Clinton campaign counters that it is banking on the support of voters with "deep and ingrained loyalty" to the Democratic party and to the presidency of Bill Clinton -- especially on the support of poor to lower-middle class Democratic voters who are seeking government aid to pay for health care and other necessities, and who can be convinced that Clinton is best equipped to win enactment of such policies.

Many of these voters, however, are black, and African American voters have, over the course of the past year, been moving steadily to Obama. While both Bill and Hillary Clinton have had substantial support in the African-American community - Bill Clinton got roughly 90 percent of the black vote in his two presidential elections -- there could be an Obama groundswell among minority voters. "If Obama wins two white states in a row, that is going to send a signal to African Americans around the country. The African-American population is going to be excited beyond belief by the prospect of a black president," says Ornstein.

"The sixty-four thousand dollar question," according to a Democratic operative, is "whether whites will continue to vote for Obama once the novelty wears off."

Most of those interviewed for this story do not believe the novelty will wear off.

"If you put the three elements together, Obama's appeal to independents, some cross-over Republicans, and combine that with a really energized African American community, that is a pretty powerful new math for the Democrats," says Bill Carrick, a California Democratic consultant. "I think he [Obama] has got a pretty interesting coalition for the general election."

Emory University political scientist Merle Black notes that Obama is "not presenting himself as a Jesse Jackson, he is not an Al Sharpton; he is presenting himself as a Democrat who happens to be African American. There are very few white voters who would not find him very likeable." If Obama does have trouble with white voters, Black said it will be because of his "liberal record more than race."

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A number of Clinton operatives and supporters report privately that her campaign organization is beset with internal turmoil, and that Mark Penn remains in serious danger of losing his position as the senior and dominant strategist. "There are a lot of people saying Mark Penn is going to be thrown under the bus," said one source.

On the other hand, there are dissidents from this view. Norm Ornstein told HuffPost, "I am not one of those who joins in the pillorying of Mark Penn. They played the hand they had, and that hand was built around experience and nostalgia for the Clinton administration. If they had switched to a message of change six months ago, it would not have been any more credible then than it is now."

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Clinton's calculation that she can best confront Obama in the coming closed Democratic primaries is based in part on detailed analysis of the Iowa results.

The Iowa entrance polls conducted for all the major television networks - including ABC, CBS, NBC, AND CNN -- show that registered Democrats were more supportive of Clinton than either independents or the small number of Republicans who chose to participate in the Democratic caucus.

She virtually tied Obama among registered Democrats (31-32), while decisively losing independents (17-41) and Republicans (10-44). John Edwards beat her by slightly smaller, but still substantial, margins among Republicans and independents, while losing to her among Democrats.

In addition to the fact that ten of the Super Tuesday states are conducting open primaries or caucuses, there is a major short term problem: the next primary on January 26 in South Carolina is not only open, but has a large African American population likely to be drawn to Obama.

In past Democratic primary contests, the kind of coalition Obama has put together - well-educated, culturally liberal, and relatively affluent whites, eschewing the "common touch" -- was inadequate to produce victories -- not only in the case of Hart, but also in Paul Tsongas' 1992's race against Bill Clinton and Bill Bradley's race against Al Gore in 2000.

In the current election, however, Obama has at least preliminarily shown the ability to cobble together a coalition bridging the gap between upscale voters and minorities to form a winning primary-caucus alliance.

Obama is capitalizing on one of the most powerful trends in the composition of the Democratic electorate: the conversion from the GOP of growing legions of relatively affluent, suburban and urban, socially tolerant white professionals and so-called knowledge workers - ranging from pre-school teachers and data entry technicians to nuclear physicists -- who have become a major constituency, and a driving force in Democratic Party policy making.

This movement of what some have termed "the creative class" to the Democrats was sharply accelerated during the administration of Bill Clinton, and has grown stronger during the second half of the Bush years, as opposition to the war, to Bush's conservative social policies and to administration reluctance to deal with such issues as global warming has given Democrats a major boost in support. Whether Mrs. Clinton, Edwards, or Obama will benefit most from this restructured center-left coalition is not yet clear.

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In private, some of Clinton's supporters are deeply disdainful of Obama. "He is the candidate of the 'identity left'," said one, dismissively, angered by what he sees as Obama's claim that the "he's built a new majority that rises above partisanship, that somehow through his magical presence, we can rise above conflict." This Clinton supporter described Obama as afflicted with naïve idealism similar to that of Jimmy Carter.

The burden on Clinton will be, according to this strategist, to show that "this guy [Obama] is amateur hour, that it's all glitz. He thinks you can get there but you don't have to go through anything. It's dreamy, but it mainly appeals to independents."

Clinton's task has been further complicated by the continued presence in the race of John Edwards. Edwards has taken the unexpected role in New Hampshire of acting as Obama's attack dog against the New York Senator, allowing Obama to remain above the fray.

While Edwards, who beat Clinton by three-tenths of a percentage point in Iowa, currently appears destined to finish third here on Tuesday, he did force Clinton onto the defensive in Saturday's debate, calling her the advocate of the "status quo." He escalated the conflict today, charging that Clinton and her campaign "have no conscience" in turning a blind eye to the human suffering that has motivated his campaign, distorting his record of commitment to help the ill and injured with proposals for more comprehensive, broadly available medical treatment.

Edwards contended on the campaign trail this morning that he is determined to stay in the fight all the way to the Democratic convention. In the latest CNN-WMUR poll of New Hampshire Democrats, however, Edwards has lost ground, falling to16 percent, well behind Obama's 39 percent, and Clinton's 29 percent.

Hillary Clinton's campaign, anticipating probable defeat here in New Hampshire on January 8, is gearing up for an extended trench-warfare battle against Barack Obama. The former First Lady is plannin...
Hillary Clinton's campaign, anticipating probable defeat here in New Hampshire on January 8, is gearing up for an extended trench-warfare battle against Barack Obama. The former First Lady is plannin...
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- LaFeminazi I'm a Fan of LaFeminazi 236 fans permalink
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If I was sitting in the RNC HQ and the Dem's gave me the ticket of Obama / Edwards to fight.

I just might start believing in God.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 AM on 01/07/2008
- VivaZapata I'm a Fan of VivaZapata 64 fans permalink
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If it is true that her strategy will be to use right wing fear tactics on a left wing populace, her trouncing during the primaries will continue dramatically. People, especially Democratic voters, are sick of fear mongering. If there is another terrorist attack, and she votes to authorize us to go to war against, let's say, Costa Rica, maybe then she'll gain some traction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 01/07/2008
- StillAmused I'm a Fan of StillAmused 273 fans permalink

Personally, I liked things a lot better when I could be generally enthusiastic about ALL the Dem candidates -- each with something to recommend him or her... but that was before the Obama 'moonies' rushed the stage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 01/07/2008
- MAX1 I'm a Fan of MAX1 17 fans permalink
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What does it mean when the only information sent out by the Myth System Management(MSM) is censored and contrived?

It would be nice to see HuffPo give EQUAL time to ALL candidates, not just the spoon feed drivel that I read here.

Talk, talk, talk, Hillary, talk, talk, talk, talk, Obama, talk, talk, talk, talk, Edwards, talk, talk, talk, talk... that's all folks.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 AM on 01/07/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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So, here's a question:

Which of the Repugs could really give us a run for the money?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 AM on 01/07/2008

no matter which way you cut it...

we are in hell!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 AM on 01/07/2008
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Obama is willing to take on the Military Industrial complex (Just like JFK) by pulling US troops out of Iraq.

Profits will be down for Cheney and Co.
Obama is also not soft on Islamists (As JFK wasnt really soft on Communism) as he wants to fight the war on terror in Afghanistan.

Obama doesnt believe in an Pax Americana.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 AM on 01/07/2008
- MoNut I'm a Fan of MoNut 9 fans permalink

Mrs. Clinton's already had four years to do the disabling that she now says she'll do if given a vote....

So, why did she do the complete opposite and enable instead of disable the Bush agenda in that four year opportunity?

What did she think the perception of her was in public eyes anyway when getting in the race?

She think she didn't come with baggage? That just because she slyly disguises it with the "I'm your girl with the goods" and "Democrats know where I stand" umbrellas that we'd forget the questionable donors, deals, and controversies of the Clinton WH?

She think we'd so eagerly swallow the forcefeeding after all this Bush nonsense and after our own Party's failure and unwillingness to do what they were selling in 2004? What was "priority #1" again? What happened to "the broom"?

Is she THAT full of herself that she failed to listen and see us out here begging, pushing, pulling teeth to get them to hear since 9/11?

We felt we were owed something too, Mrs. Clinton.... from the only persons at the time that could provide light and a shield for those of us that stood by your tenure in the WH.

We've been waiting since 9/12 for you and Bill to show for us... as we watched you only make a showing when it was beneficial to yourselves.

Now, we're being told we owe what to who?.. for what again?... Why?

Your ego has made you blind and deaf to reality and gave way to your election bid's slow and steady bleeding.

And it seems your going to ride it to social ruin, taking Bill and his legacy down in the undertow.

Suddenly, I feel like it's not just the Republican Party that's been bamboozled and tooled by their own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 01/07/2008

It is not physically possible to throw Mark Penn under a bus!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 01/07/2008
- StillAmused I'm a Fan of StillAmused 273 fans permalink

Think I'll just sit back and enjoy the passionate assurances of those who apparently have known both Obama and Clinton on an intimate personal basis since grammar school. Ergo, comments like:

"Obama is not a teflon candidate. He is tougher than you think. And he will be a great surprise for most of us Americans"

and

"... she doesn't care about this country... They don't care about democracy, rights, laws, justice...they care about power."

Poor, confused assholes have this election confused with their own lives... the ones they live vicariously, watching TV soap operas and 'reality' shows. They "know" those characters intimately, too...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 AM on 01/07/2008

"In private, some of Clinton's supporters are deeply disdainful of Obama. "He is the candidate of the 'identity left'," said one, dismissively"

Just in case anyone is unclear, what he means is that Obama is the niggers' candidate.

Fuck Clinton - she can fucking go to hell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 01/07/2008
- LordMoon I'm a Fan of LordMoon 17 fans permalink

What a joke this is...

"The Clinton campaign counters that it is banking on the support of voters with "deep and ingrained loyalty" to the Democratic party and to the presidency of Bill Clinton -- especially on the support of poor to lower-middle class Democratic voters who are seeking government aid to pay for health care and other necessities, and who can be convinced that Clinton is best equipped to win enactment of such policies."

in case they didn't notice, the group of folks didn't do very well under Clinton. While the economy boomed they were left behind.
Rightly or wrongly Hillary gets some of the blame.

Hillary is doomed she's seen as belonging to elite in this country that have gutted the middle. Mabye those golf pictures of Bill and George seniro playing golf weren't such a good idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 AM on 01/07/2008

If Barack Obama finishes on top in NH (or even too close a 2nd) I have a feeling that the Clinton camp will really let loose the dogs of war.

http://delmarvadealings.com/2008/01/07/it-wont-be-the-right-that-destroys-obama/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 01/07/2008

I did not vote for Gore because of Lieberman. Did not vote for Bush either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 AM on 01/07/2008

why do the " status quo'ers" incessantly insist on forcing their warn out useless unproductive...hackneyed ideas down our throats.We have had enough already. we need something different and more progressive.don giuliani..the noted crime boss and along with his consigliori... bernie "the bagman" kerick...head of the new york crime family...rants on and on about how he "ran" things and how he will run the country. americans despise kings and will not tolerate any fool "running" them. in case these fools have forgotten...this nation is governed by the "people". don giuliani ran the flavor out of new york city and alienated the entire minority population.hillary and bill have been around forever and they never gave us health care... or stopn jobs and tax revenue from disappearing into other countrys. go away hillary...go away don giuliani.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 AM on 01/07/2008
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