Voters Offer Tweaks To New Frontrunner Obama

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First Posted: 01- 6-08 11:29 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Manchester, NH -- With two days to go before the New Hampshire presidential primary, Senator Barack Obama seems poised to put the nail in the coffin of his chief competitor for the nomination, Sen. Hillary Clinton.

But voters and analysts here say there are some areas in his resume and approach that the Illinois Democrat needs to address before he can truly close the door.

Mainly, they argued that Obama should tackle, head on, Clinton's criticism that he lacks experience, either by getting even more specific on individual policies, or offering up names or people whom he would appoint to a hypothetical presidential cabinet.

"I'm not worried about Obama," said Patrick Murray, a 41-year-old Independent from Boston. "[But] he's not perfect. The thing I want to see is that he understands his limitations. That he doesn't just ride his rock star status. I really want to see that his judgment is as good as I hope it is."

Said Richard Chretien, a 49-year-old Manchester native and Obama supporter: "The thing that keeps coming up is the experience piece... Clinton keeps hammering it. But I don't know if all that experience mounts for much. Obama has as much experience as John Kennedy did.... He needs to tackle it because that's what Hillary will be talking about for the next two days."

Peter Budryk, a 70-year-old undecided from Cambridge, Masschusetts, offered an even more specific suggestion. "Tell me who he will appoint as Secretary of State. And hopefully it will be Joe Biden. Because Obama's lack of foreign policy experience raises a question for me."

And Michael Gerson, the former speechwriter for President George Bush suggested that Obama had to do a bit more to show viability in a general election contest.

"I thought [Obama's] Iowa victory speech was one of the best I've seen in a long time; a convention quality speech that made Hillary Clinton look small in comparison," the columnist told the Huffington Post. "[But] at this point in his campaign, Bill Clinton had a series of policy proposals to appeal to the middle. I don't see that from Obama on the domestic side yet."

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For his part, Obama addressed these general concerns in a roughly half-hour address to 950 people at the Palace Theater in Manchester, New Hampshire. Mimicking the arguments that have been laid against him, he posited: "[Skeptics said] he [Obama] hasn't been in Washington long enough. We need to stew him and season him a little bit more and boil all the hope out of him before he is ready to be president. They were making these arguments for months in Iowa, and on Thursday the Iowans said no, we don't believe that. They understood that the real gamble in this election is to do the same thing with the same folks... and somehow expecting a different result."

By and large the crowd's response was passionate and, on occasion, downright obsessive. Several standing ovations peppered his address. People occasional screamed alongside him. Even prior to the speech, the enthusiasm was palpable. Lines stretched down the street and across the corner. The press, as is customary, came in droves. Many admitted that they weren't assigned to the Obama beat but had woken up early on a cold Sunday morning to catch a glimpse of the buzz surrounding the Senator.

It was an environment that Obama operated in with ease and confidence. His speech was interjected with humorous bits fit for a standup comedy act. Upon entering the hall nearly one and a half hours late, he casually commented: "It's kind of balmy outside. I didn't know what to do. I thought I was in the tropics."

Later on, when talking about his victory on Thursday in the Iowa caucus, he offered the following anecdote to hearty laughs from the crowd. "We have Republicans coming in. I know. They whisper to me, they pulled me aside, [Obama starts whispering into the microphone] 'Barack I'm a Republican, but I support you, and I'm changing registrations for this caucus.' [He stops his imitation] And I would say [only to start again] 'thank you, why are we whispering?'"

And as for the testimony from Lynn Cheney that her husband and Obama were eighth-cousins, the Democratic frontrunner professed to being "kind of disappointing. When they are doing these genealogical surveys you kind of hope you are related to somebody cool... Dick Cheney?"

One of the biggest applause lines came following a campaign speech staple.

I decided to run, he noted, because "I was betting on you, all of you. I was betting on the fact that the real agents of change throughout American history have always been the people. I was betting we were not as divided as our politics suggest... if we could just rally our voices together to challenge special interests and challenge ourselves to be better there is no problem we can not solve and no destiny we cannot fulfill."

Check out HuffPost's comprehensive on-the-ground New Hampshire coverage here.

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- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

I read about something that happened at a caucus in Iowa. Two sisters are very upset about something a Obama supporter said to them. When Dodd didn't recieve the % he needed to stay in the runnning, they were approached by different representives. They were mulling over who they should cacus for when a Obama person came over to them. She asked them why they are still over here? And the older sister said because they hadn't decided on their second choice yet. The lady looked confused and shook her head. "Well, I know it's not going to be Clinton. So, come with me." The little sister then said, "Where not going anywhere until we decide." And the lady actually snapped back, "Your not racist are you?" They were stunned and confused. When she realized how they took her racist remark, she left. Obama won fair and square? That happened to two sisters. How many others are out there that didn't want to be called racist and went along and voted for Obama?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 AM on 01/07/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

President Kennedy will always be my hero and how dare Obama and the media compare the two of them. My hero served as a Congressman from 1947 thru 1953 and was elected to the Senate and served from 1953 thru 1961. How many elections does that add up to be? If your voting for Obama, I am sure you know. Kennedy saved his crew after the sinking of his PT-109 boat. President Kennedy is a war hero, he nearly died swimming and carring his men to safety. He nearly lost his life in WW II for the country he loved. But it did cost John Kennedy his health by suffering as massive back injury that followed the president thru out his life. So you Obama supporters and the media who are saying your guy is just like President Kennedy before he took office should be ashamed of yourselves. How insulting. Pretending to be a great man does not make you one. And standing in a great mans shadow, does not make you half the man Kennedy will always be in millions and millions and milli ons of peoples eyes around the world. The World loved President Kennedy for what he stood for and against and the actions he took. Namely saving the world from WW III. At 10 years old I became a Kennedy Democract because of what his party stood for. And I would not vote for Obama if he was the last man on earth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 AM on 01/07/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

President Kennedy will always be my hero and how dare Obama and the media compare the two of them. My hero served as a Congressman from 1947 thru 1953 and was elected to the Senate and served from 1953 thru 1961. How many elections does that add up to be? If your voting for Obama, I am sure you know. Kennedy saved his crew after the sinking of his PT-109 boat. President Kennedy is a war hero, he nearly died swimming and carring his men to safety. He nearly lost his life in WW II for the country he loved. But it did cost John Kennedy his health by suffering as massive back injury that followed the president thru out his life. So you Obama supporters and the media who are saying your guy is just like President Kennedy before he took office should be ashamed of yourselves. How insulting. Pretending to be a great man does not make you one. And standing in a great mans shadow, does not make you half the man Kennedy will always be in millions and millions and millions of peoples eyes around the world. The World loved President Kennedy for what he stood for and against and the actions he took. Namely saving the world from WW III. At 10 years old I became a Kennedy Democract because of what his party stood for. And I would not vote for Obama if he was the last man on earth.


    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 AM on 01/07/2008
- kathcalla I'm a Fan of kathcalla 3 fans permalink

Hillary Rodham Clinton, Mark Penn and a veritable host of inner circle spinners and advisors suffer from a poverty of conscience, malignant arrogance, blindsidedness, and abject indifference but they cannot insult our collective social political intelligence or dampen the spirit or break the will of surging voters and Obama's Momentum in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and beyond. I can see Obama prevailing on February 5 in my state: New Jersey.

and yes i said yes i will yes -the last line of Ulysses, and the affirmation of all affirmations by James Joyce

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 01/06/2008
- illinoisan I'm a Fan of illinoisan 23 fans permalink
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Voter want a new experience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 01/06/2008

I would make another suggestion.

One his most appealing lines of distinction is his knowledge and love of the Constitution.

With the Clinton's being rebuffed for trying to expand Presidential powers and Bush's total disregard for it.

Can you ever imagine Hillary embracing Presidential signing statements? Unitary executive authority?

While I would never accuse the Clinton's of begin like Bush and Cheney, I cannot see them giving up power that they felt was there for the taking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 01/06/2008
- sagopalm I'm a Fan of sagopalm 3 fans permalink

It's truly amazing to watch the media rally around Barak with enthusiasm. I watched (gulp) faux news and they were even doing it. (I never even allow my channel selector to graze over faux news because I don't want to register even the slightest blip on their putrificated ratings).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 01/06/2008
- TheKiddy I'm a Fan of TheKiddy 5 fans permalink

Can I jut say (and this is my opinion and so not really open to attack) that I find Barack Obama incredibly boring to listen to? His sentences go on and on. His cadence is monotonous. And, he hardly ever talks in specifics. It's like listening to a sermon and trying to stay awake. Having said that, once in awhile things brighten up when he uses one of Edwards' signature phrases or themes. Other than that, borrrring.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 01/06/2008

POP STAR CANDIDATES

Yes... "rock-star", love-affair vibes can be dangerously deceptive. But the tragic Democratic love affairs from the last century were characterized by charisma combined with politics on the margins. Such candidates excited the base, but just intensified culture wars" which drove up Party negatives. Hillary still derives support from such polarized character appeal (many old-time activists love and trust her because... the "right" hates her). Edwards is a less a Democratic establishment candidate, but he garners affection using a "class warrior" appeal that has a similar "polarizing" effect.

OTOH.... Obama is mainly appealing to middle and left leaners who are no longer satisfied with viewing or working on the future using the old framing filters. Those who have followed him more closely note he is demonstrating the intelligence, temperment, and judgement most essential for the job. Those willing to dig a little deeper, find he's also doing a superior job of selecting and processing the counsel of first rate advisors. Those who doubt this need to ask themselves: How do we account for the "surprising" success he's had in campaigning against his expert opponents and turning out new voters from all sectors of the electorate? .... and then look more closely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 01/06/2008

CAMPAIGNING ON HIGHLY "DETAILED" PLANS

Obama should just say "No" to calls for him to make appeals to the techno-Democratic old-timer crowd. If these times call for him to drop names of a few appointees, fine....

....Anyone following the campaign closely already knows Obama is currently and has for some time been listening to a group of "A list" quality advisors. The general quality of people will be much the same as that which was used in the Clinton camp. ...the main difference being the list has been less determined by membership in a network of political-buddy favorites. For Obama to develop and publicize a detailed series of policy proposals could at this point be counterproductive. It's fine to layout general goals, methods and objectives. But spelling out too many details at this point tends to put a leader into the type of corner that their opponents will be able to use against them later. Opportunities and circumstances will change during the next 12+ months....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 01/06/2008
- musselmanm I'm a Fan of musselmanm 19 fans permalink
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How do any of you find enough to dislike about him even without specifics that you think Bush is better? Like many have said, Hillary and Edwards would make a fine POTUS. I just want a radical change, not a replay of a long ago Presidency. Or a replay of the Bush war crime team.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 01/06/2008

TO: Presidential Candidates for 2008 January 6, 2008

On January 5, 2008 the New Hampshire Debates took place. We must admit it does a woman knows how to lead a War. Has America ever had a woman President to lead a War. It is Congress who decides to go to War or not and it is Congress to end a War. In Bible it states somewherew for I could not find it looking through it 3 times that God hates Wars and want and end to the destruction of War.
It is men who have generally fought Wars. True women have led nations in past but no one asked about the War Credentials of any of these candidates. Sen Barack Obama wanted to catch Osama Bin Ladin on TV news and Ex-gov Romney answered by wrongfully criticizing him. I believe the President should at least have some knowledge from having attended a War college or experience.

I would very much be an amateur on the Nuclear issues but I believe we can never trust other nations to get rid of all their Nuclear weapons. We must not trust so willingly. Blind trust never works. Nuclear weapons can be gotten from dishonest persons,black market, from dishonest people, and from traitors so we must not be foolish delving into false security thinking a nation will give up all their Nuclear weapons.

Furthermore, for Peace Between Nations can we really make a nation give up their protection for their nation by giving up their superior weapons as Nuclear War. We must choose a smart,wise, and intellectual,even diplomatically savvy President, then we'll have Peace and no need for a just War or otherwise. Wisdom Ch 6 in Bible states,"The Safety of the World lies in many counselors." Even Proverbs supports this. Eva Hart Christian Army 62-70 670 Eddy St. Sfc 94109

Senator Barack Obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 01/06/2008
- sagopalm I'm a Fan of sagopalm 3 fans permalink

Sometimes it takes a catastrophe to initiate change. The bush years have been catastrophic all right.
Obama may not have had such a strong "change" wave to ride if times were more civil. But they're not. So people that may have in the past thought it unthinkable to vote for a man of color are likely to be more open to it now. Let's face it...we need help. Barak Obama appears to be a man the country can rally behind. I, for one would be proud to have him represent us to the rest of the world. I'm sick of the shame and embarassment that have been the trademark of the bush era.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 01/06/2008

He has paid attention and realizes that Americans are tired of the direction Bush has taken the country. The citizens want change, and Obama is tapping into that frustration. His strategy is proven: 9/11 is the best example. We were angry and, not thinking clearly or at all, we let Bush and Congress lie to us. They had the perfect slogans: "The War on Terror" and "The USA Patriot Act." We fell for it.

Now that we are desperate for change, Obama gives us another slogan to rally behind--"Vote for Change." The only problem is that he has failed to tell us, specifically, what that change will look like. But that is okay; we are so desperate for change, we do not need specifics--promises will suffice.

In fact, we do not want, nor do we want anyone else, to criticize OUR candidate. He is going to unite the country by playing nice with the bully on the block. Now where have I have that before?

Look, Obama is a politician; manipulation is in the job description. We can only hope to choose the lesser of two evils and hope we do not regret it.

Obama needs to take a stance on sensitive and controversial issues--vote yes or no, not present. As he moves forward, rosy rhetoric is not going to suffice. Here are my questions:

1. Why did you vote with republicans in favor of corporate America to reduce citizens’ ability to sue corporations?
2. Why did you vote no with republican to restrict the interest rates to 30 percent?
3. Will you go on the record on controversial issues instead of talking about where you stand?
4. Why have you accepted the most amount of money from insurance companies, second only to Hillary? (How can you reform an industry in which you are accepting large sums of money?)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 01/06/2008

TO: Presidential Candidates for 2008
Ref: New Hampshire Primaries Jan 6, 2008

On T.V. Senator Barack Obama stated he wanted to catch our enemy Osama Bin Laden and then Ex-gov Mitt Romney criticized him and twisted his words and intentions. It was good of Senator Obama to want to catch America's enemies.

Furthermore, let's admit it what does a woman know of battlefield War fighting. In the New Hampsire Debates of January 5, 2008 no mention or question asked as to the exprience that any of the candidates have for knowing how to fight a War or have they attende a War College or have experience in fighting a War. We must select leaders who have the experience in leading an Army,Navy,etc. Sen. Obama won in Iowa and Ex-gov Romney lost. Eva Hart Chtristian Army 62-70 670 Eddy St. Sfc 94109

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 01/06/2008
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