Voters Offer Tweaks To New Frontrunner Obama

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First Posted: 01- 6-08 11:29 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Manchester, NH -- With two days to go before the New Hampshire presidential primary, Senator Barack Obama seems poised to put the nail in the coffin of his chief competitor for the nomination, Sen. Hillary Clinton.

But voters and analysts here say there are some areas in his resume and approach that the Illinois Democrat needs to address before he can truly close the door.

Mainly, they argued that Obama should tackle, head on, Clinton's criticism that he lacks experience, either by getting even more specific on individual policies, or offering up names or people whom he would appoint to a hypothetical presidential cabinet.

"I'm not worried about Obama," said Patrick Murray, a 41-year-old Independent from Boston. "[But] he's not perfect. The thing I want to see is that he understands his limitations. That he doesn't just ride his rock star status. I really want to see that his judgment is as good as I hope it is."

Said Richard Chretien, a 49-year-old Manchester native and Obama supporter: "The thing that keeps coming up is the experience piece... Clinton keeps hammering it. But I don't know if all that experience mounts for much. Obama has as much experience as John Kennedy did.... He needs to tackle it because that's what Hillary will be talking about for the next two days."

Peter Budryk, a 70-year-old undecided from Cambridge, Masschusetts, offered an even more specific suggestion. "Tell me who he will appoint as Secretary of State. And hopefully it will be Joe Biden. Because Obama's lack of foreign policy experience raises a question for me."

And Michael Gerson, the former speechwriter for President George Bush suggested that Obama had to do a bit more to show viability in a general election contest.

"I thought [Obama's] Iowa victory speech was one of the best I've seen in a long time; a convention quality speech that made Hillary Clinton look small in comparison," the columnist told the Huffington Post. "[But] at this point in his campaign, Bill Clinton had a series of policy proposals to appeal to the middle. I don't see that from Obama on the domestic side yet."

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For his part, Obama addressed these general concerns in a roughly half-hour address to 950 people at the Palace Theater in Manchester, New Hampshire. Mimicking the arguments that have been laid against him, he posited: "[Skeptics said] he [Obama] hasn't been in Washington long enough. We need to stew him and season him a little bit more and boil all the hope out of him before he is ready to be president. They were making these arguments for months in Iowa, and on Thursday the Iowans said no, we don't believe that. They understood that the real gamble in this election is to do the same thing with the same folks... and somehow expecting a different result."

By and large the crowd's response was passionate and, on occasion, downright obsessive. Several standing ovations peppered his address. People occasional screamed alongside him. Even prior to the speech, the enthusiasm was palpable. Lines stretched down the street and across the corner. The press, as is customary, came in droves. Many admitted that they weren't assigned to the Obama beat but had woken up early on a cold Sunday morning to catch a glimpse of the buzz surrounding the Senator.

It was an environment that Obama operated in with ease and confidence. His speech was interjected with humorous bits fit for a standup comedy act. Upon entering the hall nearly one and a half hours late, he casually commented: "It's kind of balmy outside. I didn't know what to do. I thought I was in the tropics."

Later on, when talking about his victory on Thursday in the Iowa caucus, he offered the following anecdote to hearty laughs from the crowd. "We have Republicans coming in. I know. They whisper to me, they pulled me aside, [Obama starts whispering into the microphone] 'Barack I'm a Republican, but I support you, and I'm changing registrations for this caucus.' [He stops his imitation] And I would say [only to start again] 'thank you, why are we whispering?'"

And as for the testimony from Lynn Cheney that her husband and Obama were eighth-cousins, the Democratic frontrunner professed to being "kind of disappointing. When they are doing these genealogical surveys you kind of hope you are related to somebody cool... Dick Cheney?"

One of the biggest applause lines came following a campaign speech staple.

I decided to run, he noted, because "I was betting on you, all of you. I was betting on the fact that the real agents of change throughout American history have always been the people. I was betting we were not as divided as our politics suggest... if we could just rally our voices together to challenge special interests and challenge ourselves to be better there is no problem we can not solve and no destiny we cannot fulfill."

Check out HuffPost's comprehensive on-the-ground New Hampshire coverage here.

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- murz I'm a Fan of murz permalink

Yes, all three candidates are qualified, but there is no way that Obama can win the general election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 01/06/2008
- negogato I'm a Fan of negogato 30 fans permalink

Lets bring it down to earth.
Hilary Clinton, Barak Obama, John Edwards; would all make fine presidents.

Each is qualified. Each has the experience and energy to do the job. And all have policies at the ready that would help heal our country and return to us our self respect and honor as a nation in the court of world opinion. All of them.

And all of them are far and away better than the gop boys running a 4 more year’s of Bush campaign.

The question is: which of these different, equally qualified, equally experienced and electable candidates will be best for the country. They are all tough, bright and ready for day one. All three come to it from different backgrounds and are seeking office for different reasons. All wish to serve the country first.

This is the decision to be made by a full spectrum of Americans: the growing number of independents, newly disaffected republicans, green party members and democrats left right and center. With these three we cannot go wrong. But with each it will go differently.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 01/06/2008

Obama is no stranger to a little tweaking.
http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Tweek_Tweak

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 01/06/2008
- bluesnot I'm a Fan of bluesnot 13 fans permalink

Lieberman was Obama's mentor. That is a scary connection.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 01/06/2008

BTW, what in the hell was up with Charles "I'm a Whore for the Republican Party" Gibson last night? Spouting the Bush Administration talking points on "The Surge" word for word and then asking the Dems if they are ready to admit it worked? Aren't these guys moderating the debate supposed to at least PRETEND they are impartial?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 01/06/2008
- jsarets I'm a Fan of jsarets 166 fans permalink

Clinton thinks change comes from working really hard, like she's done throughout her 35 years of experience. She worked really hard on HillaryCare (a great program IMHO), and Congress resented her for it.

Edwards thinks change comes from drawing lines in the sand, excluding opponents from the dialog, and fighting for what your believe. It's the politics of Us vs. Them, the politics of division.

Obama thinks change comes from bringing people together, finding common ground, building coalitions, and getting the votes needed to accomplish significant change.

Obama's campaign strategy is clear: he intends to capitalize on the disenfranchisement in the Republican coalition to pull the Reagan Democrats and other economic populists back under the Democratic tent, using his compelling personality and inspiring message to generate a landslide and build a substantial congressional majority for the Democrats.

That's why Clinton is attacking him on abortion, baiting him to trumpet his pro-choice position and lose traction with social conservatives. That's why Obama front-loaded his policy "beef" during 2007 so that he can stick to principles during primary season. This is a guy that wants to grow the Democratic Party by appealing to the optimism that he's betting Americans want to feel right now.

Comparisons to George W. Bush are correct in some ways. Obviously, we're talking about a brilliant intellectual versus a privileged frat boy. But both campaigns focus(ed) on character and vision rather than qualifications and plans, and both did/will result in a president that is less moderate that moderate voters anticipated.

The difference is that Bush used his congressional majority and "popular mandate" to govern from the right, whereas Obama will use his hopefully much larger majority and mandate to govern from the left. Obama is going to attract a lot of center-right voters, and he's going to make some changes that some of these voters will find ideologically uncomfortable.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 01/06/2008

LOL at Huffington Post endorsing ostentatiously Obama!

Masks are falling BIG TIME :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 01/06/2008

I'm republican, I'll not pretend to be independent, this website is one of many sites in the internet with GOP operatives behind it. If this site is progressive, the good and bad of every candidates will be reported without malice, that's what progressive is all about. Bring truth to their readers, report everything as is, no more no less. Ask yourself a very simple question why a particular candidate from the democratic party is heavily endorsed by this site without saying so? Ask yourself why neoconservatives and our deadliest operative (Karl Rove) and his aide is helping this particular candidate in strategizing how to defeat the other one which in my opinion is the best among the four you have out there to represent your party for GE. We are using your own candidate to take out the other, the biggest threat for our party to keep the Whitehouse & take back congress.

Watching all of you tearing down the best candidate to represent your party is pitiful. Of course, I am delighted; you're all making it easy for us.

The democratic party is a party for LOSERS. You know why I said it? Majority of you are dreamers, you're looking for a perfect candidate to represent your party. The difference between your party and ours, we are realistic; we don't have to love whoever represent our party, all that is needed we stand behind our party which a lot of you refused to do.

Democraps will lose again, third in a row; and that is your fault. You have the chance to take back the Whitehouse, but you're all too busy with your goody toes shoes n shit, you deserve to lose. HAR! HAR! HAR!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 01/06/2008
- OB I'm a Fan of OB permalink

As I see it Abama us the recipient of affirmative action. Would he even be in this thing if he had a white skin? I doubt it. The only change about his candidacy is his color. He won because a dumb state like Iowa as does New Hampshire allows non democratics to vote in a democratic primary. In Iowa Hillary won the most votes by Democratics and yet lost to Obama because independents choose him! NOt only that but many of the students participating in the caucus were not Iowa residents but from another state.I resent that non democrats can select who the Democratic nominee will be in November and that is exactly what is happening. In my state you must be a registered voter and registered in some party in order to vote in the primary for anyparty. As it should be.Should say a non-union member in a factory be allowed to vote for the shop stewart in said factory or hav any say in that unions business. I think not. Democratic primaries for registered Democratic party members only. And the same for other political parties.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 01/06/2008
- Qbear I'm a Fan of Qbear 51 fans permalink

As soon as Huckabee won a caucus, Obama doesn't have to answer anymore questions.

I'd support the devil him/herself to STOP MotherHucker, the AIDS hysterical NAZI!
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1210139/chucklesAIDS.jpg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 01/06/2008
- amberglow I'm a Fan of amberglow 6 fans permalink

do lies count as tweaks?

WHO IS JIM DEMERS? -- "In Saturday’s debate, in the face of an explicit charge from Clinton, Obama denied that his New Hampshire co-chair Jim Demers is a lobbyist for the pharmaceutical industry: “That’s not so.”
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In fact, as you can see here, it is a true fact that Demers is registered to lobby for Pfizer and PhRMA. " -- http://thepage.time.com/2008/01/06/who-is-jim-demers/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 01/06/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 492 fans permalink
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Good article. I'm glad to see Obama supporters asking more of him. And I hope he responds. I'd like to hear more policy talk from all the candidates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 01/06/2008
- uheardme I'm a Fan of uheardme 10 fans permalink

His resume is fair game. Obama must to give voters a reason to feel confident that he will be ready day one as Hillary puts it. If he doesn't get the voting public comfortable by offering a detailed policies and by pointing out that the Republicans haven't offered any specifics other than continuing the policies of the Bush Administration, he will not get the nod. He can do this easily. He will do it.

John Edwards is just not believable. He's done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 01/06/2008
- cloudy I'm a Fan of cloudy 2 fans permalink

Like all of the Democratic candidates (did you notice how much more chipper the GOP ones were, especially starting off?), Barack Obama needs to get plenty of rest and take care of that hoarse throat. Stephanopolous, often very wide of the mark, was spot on in noting how tired the Democratic candidates looked in this debate.

Then, when he's really on a winning streak, Obama is simply great. I don't know how to improve on him in his eloquent moments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 01/06/2008

The "I want to hear more on Obama's policies" comments are interesting - all the Democrats have detailed explainers online. Also, Obama always has been more than willing to expound on policy at length with constituents. His live Q and As are as detailed as any. His campaign over the summer was weakest when he went too far into detail and bored people with long walks through the legislative woods. If anything, he's needed to correct in the less-detailed direction.

That said, I'd like to hear more on "dream teams" - who'd be the best Veep? Jim Webb seems like a great one for Obama, a veteran and former SecNav, plus a conservative Red state Dem. Also, how better to cater to the left in a way with mainstream credibility than to make Patrick Fitzgerald AG (who's taken on corrupt Dems and Libby?)

Seems the most competitive ticket against Obama would be led by McCain - he can argue a record of change - campaign finance reform, his maverick status and regular deficit hawking (including his annual appropriations bill theater). Either add Liebermann as Veep or say he'll get a high post, and he's got a claim to bipartisanship that competes with Obama's. Add in appeal to independents, in theory, for both tickets.

Still, if both tickets claim the mantles of change and bipartisanship equally, I think the race becomes about health care primarily. I think McCain loses there. But a lot still can happen on that issue.

In the primary, ClintonCare is more like RomneyCare than seems to be generally recognized, and Obama's plan for a national insurance (not single-payer) plan without a mandate to buy can make a claim to allowing choice and preserving enough free-market forces to please independents and centrist Republicans ... Anyway, there's a long way to go still.

The Dems in the end are close on many policies, and the primary's really about character. Looks like Obama FTW there.

Also interesting is candidates in both parties parroting Obama’s change mantra. You can’t do me-toos without forever being second.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 01/06/2008
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