Free Dennis Kucinich! Why MSNBC Should Let The Man Debate

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Well! As if this campaign wasn't filled with enough surprising twists, here's one more: A Senior District Court Judge in Clark County, Nevada, Judge Charles Thompson yesterday ruled that Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich be allowed to participate in today's Democratic debate in Las Vegas, hosted by MSNBC. The cable channel had previously excluded Kucinich, limiting participation to top three candidates Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards and, other than Kucinich and the also-excluded Mike Gravel, the only ones left in the race. MSNBC had envisioned an intimate, sit-down affair moderated by Tim Russert and Brian Williams with the candidates asking questions of each other; not so, said the Judge, unless Kucinich can play, too. If not, Judge Thompson pledged to issue an injunction to stop the debate. Dang! Showdown at the OK Corral!

According to the AP, MSNBC is filing an appeal and seeking an "immediate hearing" before the Nevada Supreme Court. (Does this remind anyone else of an episode of "Studio 60?") Presumably, the network will argue that it is not unfair to Nevada voters to exclude Kucinich from the proceedings, and they'll probably mention financial resources and polling numbers, and possibly the fact that John Edwards' father worked in a mill.

There's an insult to injury issue here, too — Kucinich was originally invited to the debate, but was summarily uninvited when Bill Richardson dropped out. Ouch. Here's what Thompson had to say about the matter:

"Had it been established at the beginning that they'll only take the top three for the debates, I wouldn't have any problem enforcing it... I'm somewhat offended that a legitimate candidate was invited to a debate and then uninvited under circumstances that appear to be that they just decided to exclude him."

So: Does plucky Judge Thompson have a leg to stand on on here? Well, since I have no concept of the laws governing such things I will refrain from opining either way, all I will say is this: On the one hand, you've got a media conglomerate determining which candidates will be exposed to a giant national audience (or, you know, biggish) ; on the other, you've got a candidate whose poll results are apparently so unremarkable that he was excluded entirely from this article about the most recent poll (Obama, by a hair). He's also absent from this "Horserace 2008" article in the LAT. Strict fairness on one side, viability on other — how the Nevada Supreme Court balances those two factors will decide the outcome.

But even so, it seems like MSNBC ought to let Kucinich debate. Why? Well, for starters, they officially invited him, and it's horrendously uncool for them to uninvite him, no matter what. But also, this race has become homogenized very quickly: The three top-tier frontrunners, always zeroing in on each other, always shifting the focus of their barbs between them — they're gonna do their thing anyhow, why not allow for another voice in there? Distant-fourth Richardson got plaudits after the last debate, why not allow Kucinich to provide a counterpoint in this one? UFOs aside, let's resist the temptation to dismiss Kucinich — his position has been strong and unwavering and his message of "strength through peace" not at all an unwelcome one, even if he is not the candidate of choice. With the other candidates, the focus has of late been on the economy, and each other; this is a candidate whose platform is built around withdrawl from Iraq — so with him, you can pretty much guarantee the subject will be mentioned.

Also, never mind all that, let's revisit the format: Candidates will be asking each other questions. Imagine the fun that Kucinich would have with that! (And, by extension, us.) They would surely be distinct from those posed carefully by our moderators and selected from the audience (and presented by Natalie Morales). A little Kucinich excitability in there might spice things up and allow for (absent fisticuffs from Hillary and Obama, of course).

But the most important reason is because it's fair. With candidates on both sides of the aisle sulking that they don't want the media elites telling them what to do — especially after a few debates now where candidates have been excluded by networks — it may just be incumbent at this stage for the media elites to chill a bit in the name of democracy. This debate may be on the eve of the Nevada caucus, but it's being televised to the whole country, and even if Kucinich is gone by the time their primary rolls around, they will still have the chance to hear and learn from him, as the case may be. The argument that he'll distract from the head-to-head hammering of the three main candidates doesn't hold water, either: At one time, the candidates all had to vie for attention and race the stopwatch, but now you're in the top three — one more does not a diluted debate make. (And meanwhile, the Republicans still have a whopping six, plus Duncan Hunter.) Hell, that even leaves room for Mike Gravel, if you were feeling lucky.

Two other reasons to have Kucinich at the debate, by the way: Elizabeth Kucinich and Viggo Mortenson. Who says that Kucinich doesn't have something for everyone?

The Congressman from Ohio will probably not crack the lineup tonight, but still, you've got to admire his scrappiness. It's too bad NBC doesn't seem to. It would be a gamble to include him, I suppose, but then again, they are in Vegas. Could there be a better place? Well, it all depends — if Judge Thompson's order gets a lucky blow on the dice, it just might be.


*And while we're on the subject: If you think that my "OK Corral" reference is inappropriate, then you've obviously never seen MSNBC's cowboy n' western-infused commercial promising a hot time at the saloon or some such thing, with Williams' and Russert's headshots vaguely reminiscent of old-timey "Wanted" posters. I'm pretty sure there were swinging doors, and maybe some scary organ music when the villain walked in, with a big moustache. Okay, back to reality.

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This has been going on for decades, and we're only aware of it now because of the internet. It's time it stopped.

The major TV networks are, for many busy working people, the ONLY exposure to candidates before making a decision on how to vote. For a major network to leave any actively campaigning candidate for President out of their televised debates is shameful and a disservice to the voters who view them. It shows that the networks hope to skew our votes, and it makes TV election news virtually worthless as a balanced source of information. They've turned the debates into endorsements and infomercials. If we take them at all seriously when they leave out candidates, we are simply letting ourselves get sucked in by corporate propaganda, and we lose something precious. The People own this nation, not ABC/Disney, NBC/GE, FOX TV, or Gannett. The People. We need fair and balanced campaign coverage from the day people announce their candidacies to the day we have a new President. We're not getting it. When we don't get fair coverage it's very possible we're being cheated out of a President who will serve the American People first rather than corporations first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 01/16/2008

There is so much passion in the posts defending Kucinich. He is dearly loved. That says something to me, that a great many Americans are not cynical and dim. They DO care for the future of this nation. That's a good sign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 AM on 01/16/2008

The closer you are to the constitution the more crap they throw at you. Just look at Ron P, Dennis K, Rosie O etc.. The constitution is so powerful a document that even while shredding it BushCo are scared. Get next to those who get next to the constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 01/16/2008
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Quite apart from the standard arguments for including DennisK, there is an additional one which should be taken into account: the two houses of Congress are taken to be co-equal, but the media have so far given too much weight to the Senate's candidates, and it is only fair to allow this eloquent Representative in the debate. Surely he will sharpen up the focus of truth-telling and also keep these Senate related people from indulging in their usual redunancies which have everyone pretty bored.
He knows the wasys of Congress better than the others and can call them out when they say silly things.
MSNBC has an obligation to be more inclusive given the recent nauseating performances of Russert and Mathews.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 01/15/2008

This is a clear first amendment violation. If MSNBC wants to put on a debate they should be able to do so without government intervention. Not only should this judge be reversed, he should be off the bench.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 01/15/2008

Export democracy, we're not using it.

At least the GOP pulled out of the Fox debate because of the censorship of a voice of opposition. With what has happened to Florida and Michigan, the DLC has shown itself capable of pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory in 2008.

Media exposure is the life blood of any campaign, what happened to equal access rules? What happened to democracy? So the Media industrial complex is picking who we can vote for and who we can hear? If George Bush was the best money could buy in 2000 & 2004 and the dollars dropped 30% this past year, I shudder to think what money can buy us this time around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 01/15/2008

The remaining candidates should stand up for fairness and boycott the debate if Kucinich is not allowed to participate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 01/15/2008

Richardson got plaudits? He was a terrible waste of space in the last debate.

At least Kucinich will keep his head out of Hillary's lap and make the issues front and center.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 01/15/2008

If MSNBC prevails they will have lost a regular viewer even though I prefer Keith. Who the Hell do they think they are?

BTW, I'm sick of Tim Russert and his wimpy questions. If he's the best this country has to offer we're in serious trouble.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 01/15/2008

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Although not a fan of Kuchinich - except for his HR #333, Articles of Impeachment for Cheney - I am pleased that the outrageous decision of NBC was changed. Enough with the bias of MSM. Let the people hear and see all for a change; then maybe, just maybe, the country can avoid another DickNBush.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 01/15/2008

I expect more information from Huffpo on this.

What is the position of the Democratic party leadership here?
No comment? Not good enough. They must have something to say about this. Rahm Emanuel, Howard Dean.

Huffpo has a pipeline to the party bosses. So what's with the silence?
Is silence tacit approval? Some of us think so.
Why not step up and take a stand, Democrats? Put our doubts to rest and fight for democracy.

Or is the party leadership so afraid of honest talk about Iraq, impeachment and health care that they like what MSNBC is doing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 01/15/2008

Contact MSNBC VP Jeremy Gaines and let him know
you want to see Dennis participate tonight
212 664-4444
jeremy.gaines@msnbc.com

Strength through Peace
www.dennis4president.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 01/15/2008

I just completed my California primary ballot and mailed it. I voted for Dennis Kucinich and credit MSNBC for helping me make up my mind. By the way, there have been many UFO sightings in Texas recently and some people think it is the end of the world -- it could be if the republicans are elected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 01/15/2008
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Ronulans, Kucinich is your man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 01/15/2008

Good for democracy! No network should or has the right to uninvite Mr. Kucinich especially when they invited him in the first place. One has to remember it was MSNBC/NBC who has a VERY slanted view of the Democratic Candidates. One just needs to look at Chris Matthews, or Meet the Press. Has Russert ever has John McCain of HIS WAR VOTE? NO! I hate the right wing media. I think there needs to be a mass mailing to NBC or at least a boycott of General Electric merchandise hit them where it hurts there pocket books.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 01/15/2008
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