General George Casey, Iraq troop reductions, Iraq war, Iraq war casualties, the surge, warwire
General George Casey, Iraq troop reductions, Iraq war, Iraq war casualties, the surge, warwire

Army Chief Of Staff: "The Surge Has Sucked All Of The Flexibility Out Of The System"

Wall Street Journal   |   January 17, 2008 02:41 PM


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The following is excerpted from a Wall Street Journal article on General David Petraeus's indecision over Iraq troop withdrawals:


Defense Secretary Robert Gates has said he hopes to see the U.S. military presence fall below 130,000 by the end of 2008, a position shared by many senior Pentagon commanders who worry the high troop levels in Iraq are causing growing manpower strains on the army.

"The surge has sucked all of the flexibility out of the system," Army Chief of Staff George Casey said in an interview this week. "And we need to find a way of getting back into balance."

But President Bush made clear this week that additional troop withdrawals were far from a sure thing. After a meeting in Kuwait with Gen. Petraeus and Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Mr. Bush said he was open to slowing or stopping the withdrawal of troops to avoid jeopardizing recent security gains in Iraq. "My attitude is, if he didn't want to continue the drawdown, that's fine with me in order to make sure we succeed," Mr. Bush said, referring to Gen. Petraeus.

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- shep65 I'm a Fan of shep65 4 fans permalink
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The best thing about the HPost is that it is a great forum for venting. There are a few Bush supporters who occasionaly try to muster some sort of support for the pres but most folks are pretty like minded in their anti-Bush opinions.
It is also a very likely scenario that none of the fustration and anger that is vented on this site is really going to matter.
The Bushites are not going to be impeached and none of them will ever stand trail for war crimes.
No matter who is president our military will be stuck in Iraq in some capacity for the foreseable future. Iraq will continue to be a huge financial drain on this country and the only people that will benefit are the multinational oil companies.
Corporate America is still going to call the economic and foreign policy shots. There is not enough political will and intestinal by most Americans to make the kind of sacrifice necessary to break big oils grip on our economy.
Does anyone really believe that corporate America is going to let any one politician stop them from raping the world? They will do anything and stop at nothing to maintain their hegemeny over us.
We are probably 20 years past the point of no return. The beginning of the end probably reached full steam with the Reagan Administration and has reached fruition with George Bush.
We can never go back and change our delusional past and unfortunately the path we are on is one that has make this an unrecognizable country.
We have become robots and slaves to our lifestyles devoid of any critical thinking. History began yesterday and tomorrow begins with "news analysts" telling us what to think 24/7.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 01/17/2008
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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olephart posted: “The whole exercise (energy independence) is predicated on the assumption that Republicans would not be involved.

The Republican concept that 'government does not work' is proven each time they are allowed to operate it. Thus in the absence of Republicans all things are possible.”

Brilliant!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 01/17/2008

The surge is just the latest illusion constructed by Bush/Cheney to make people believe the phantasy that things have been turned around in Iraq. John McCain, for one, is going around endlessly trumpeting an American victory, the surge as mission accomplished. In reality, the surge is just the latest installment in the Iraq quagmire/c­atastrophe and this will become crystal clear soon after Bush's successor takes office - at the latest. McCain is continuing to spread the Bush lies that led to the Iraqi disaster in the first place. He has turned himself into a cheap demagogue who richly deserves to be rejected by the American electorate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 01/17/2008
- Moshe I'm a Fan of Moshe 194 fans permalink
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The "surge" was little more than a p.r. stunt from day one, and the primary purpose was to run down the clock and delay the inevitable declaration of failure in Iraq until George W. was safely on the plane back to Texas.

Then Rove and his troop of evil flying monkeys start buzzing about how the whole mess is really the fault of the new DEM president, Rush, Hannity, and the other reich-wing talking heads report their baseless opinions as fact, and then it's declared true: The whole mess in Iraq was Obama/Clinton/or Edwards' fault, and it was going great when George W. was at the helm.

51% of the boobs in the U.S. (or maybe less with some help from Diebold) then elect a GOP majority Congress in 2010, and Jeb Bush in 2112: Mission Accomplished, the Bush crime family is back in business, and the American People are totally screwed because far too many of them are too ignorant to realize that they are being played like a cheap fiddle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 01/17/2008
- OhgReaTone I'm a Fan of OhgReaTone 5 fans permalink

The strains on our military point out the need for better health care for our athletic children - after all - who is going to fight the wars of the future?
Ohg
http://thefiresidepost.com/2007/10/21/the-need-for-healthy-children-to-fight-our-wars/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 01/17/2008
- zephyrus I'm a Fan of zephyrus 16 fans permalink

I am going to post this several times per day for several days without apology.

Lipton Brisk Green Tea is da shiznit when buried in work. If our guys in Iraq had this stuff they could march all the way to Afghanistan through Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 01/17/2008

Hey Guys,

I don't need you to explain the problems to me.

I know what is the cause. Let's fix it!

http://www.wexlerwantshearings.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 01/17/2008

The only Presidential candidate to say there is a link between the billions spent on elective foreign wars and the failing economy and dollar is Ron Paul. The result is s series of Swiftboat style attacks from both left and right. Ron Paul is attacked by both Rush Lardass and Randi Rhodes because he has threatened the Military Industrial complex that owns both parties and both sides of the tweedle dee/tweedle dum media.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 01/17/2008

Be careful. You aren't speaking the Neo-Con Party(Repugs) line.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 01/17/2008
- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 288 fans permalink
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 01/17/2008
- ROBOT8 I'm a Fan of ROBOT8 17 fans permalink
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before rome and germany fell they overextended their reach, resources and reality. all we need is one more front and we fall...
Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
--Hermann Goering
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, THE TRUTH IS THE GREATEST ENEMY OF THE STATE." -- Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 01/17/2008
- Beelzebul I'm a Fan of Beelzebul 54 fans permalink

The DOW is down 9% already this year. That's more than it was up for the entire 2007 year. Same applies to the NASDAQ. Same applies for the S&P500.

When the chimpanzee took office 7 yrs ago, the DOW stood at around 10,800. It's now at 12,150. A whopping gain of 1,350 points or 193 points per year.

No wonder everyone is buying new homes and cars with no money down. They have no money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 01/17/2008

We all should have known if the bought and paid for MSM talking heads had been doing their job!

Instead, they were goading our Presidential candidates into attacking each other so they could talk about it.

Wake up people! We are near the end of America as we knew it.

http://www.wexlerwantshearings.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 01/17/2008

For some reason, the dopes in MSM have decided that Iraq is no longer the issue because we were losing more slowly in December than in November. (January ain't been to good so far). America is going fairly bankrupt and that is now the paramount issue. Do you think the dumb bulbs of MSM can ever connect the dots? Can it ever be that moral bankruptcy could lead to fiscal bankruptcy? Imagine if the rich ever decided that war is bad for business. We'd be out of there faster than Mitt Romney at a Planned Parenthood meeting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 01/17/2008
- Beelzebul I'm a Fan of Beelzebul 54 fans permalink

Bush is the new Butcher of Baghdad, and he makes the old Butcher of Baghdad look good.

So many have suffered because of this disturbed child from TX who's persistent disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that began in childhood and continues on to this day.

The central features of the boy who loved blowing up frogs are deceit and manipulation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 01/17/2008
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