Reagan Advisers See A Bit Of Their Former Boss In Obama

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First Posted: 01-17-08 04:31 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Barack Obama found himself under fire on Thursday for having compared his candidacy to Ronald Reagan's 1980 presidential run.

"I don't want to present myself as some sort of singular figure," he told the Reno Gazette-Journal editorial board earlier this week. "I think part of what is different is the times. I do think that, for example, the 1980 election was different. I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not."

The remark did not go over well in progressive circles. On Thursday, Sen. John Edwards, Obama's opponent for the Democratic nomination, ripped into him for the analogy, saying, "I can promise you this: this president will never use Ronald Reagan as an example for change."

But while Obama has felt the heat from within his own party, several former Reagan officials and even his son suggest that there are elements of historical truth to the comparison.

"If I understand what he was saying I can't entirely disagree with it. They both came along at times when society was on the cusp of change and they are both agents of change," Ron Reagan told the Huffington Post. "As far as Barack Obama being a similar agent of change, that remains to be seen. But what I do see him saying is that we are in a historical moment right now like the 60s and 80s. And I think he's right. We are overdue for a cultural shift."

Other Reagan aides grabbed onto the comparison, drawing historical similarities between the end of the Carter administration and the contemporary political landscape. The economic malaise and hangover from Vietnam of the late 1970s, they argued, are analogous in some ways to the middle class unrest and backlash to neo-conservatism today. And yet, for several Reaganites, it was the tone and tenor of Obama that best echoed the image of their former boss.

"Ronald Reagan was an inspirational leader who also was a uniter. There was never any vindictive stuff to the other side," said Lawrence Korb, a former Reagan aide and current Obama supporter who serves as a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress. "In 1983, when you had the commission to fix Social Security, which basically gave us 20 more years with the program, after it was over Reagan would not campaign against any [Democrat] who supported that. And the harshest thing he said against [Walter] Mondale was that he was too young. There was never any of this vindictiveness... I think Obama is trying to get us back to that pleasantness."

Added Peter Robinson, a research fellow at the Hoover Institute and a speechwriter for Reagan's White House: "I do believe Obama is right in looking back at the election of 1980 and saying that was a historical inflection point. Of course there is a certain amount of self-flattery involved in that statement, but he might be right." Robinson added: "I do think Ronald Reagan would have found Barack Obama appealing."

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Others former Reagan officials said they saw aspects of Reagan in Obama's attempt to present himself as the candidate outside the status quo.

"A lot of people of different persuasions see him as the only candidate in the race who has much chance of creating any change. My friends don't see much difference between Hillary Clinton and McCain and George Bush for that matter. Whether it is justified or not, I don't know. But there has been some sort of feeling that among people in the running, that Obama might actually change the status quo," said Paul Craig Roberts, the man tasked with overseeing Reaganomics. "I think that's the way Reagan came across, that he was not the status quo president. And of course whenever someone comes into office they turn into the status quo, but it takes a little longer to get that way when you don't start out there."

Of course, with any historical analysis there are multiple interpretations. And some former Reagan advisers, even those who see a bit of the 1980 Gipper in Obama's current candidacy, point to sharp contrasts between the two.

"The dynamics are entirely different," said Bruce Fein, Reagan's deputy attorney general. "Reagan's campaign was built on expanding and strengthening the confidence of the United States at a time when it was at its lowest depth, and we had a direct confrontation with the Soviet Union... We have an opposite problem today. We have an arrogance. We have a government that feels it is too superior... We have an executive branch that is bloated and ballooned suggesting that Osama bin Laden is the equivalent of the Soviet Union... I think [Obama's] comparison shows he is living in a different mental universe than people who know history... It seems to me [Obama] is the same old thing other than the mindless statement of change. What does that even mean?"

Added Charlie Black, an senior adviser to Reagan and George H.W. Bush: "[Obama] is a charismatic man, is very articulate and makes a great speech, but I think the similarities with Reagan stop there. He is a very doctrinaire liberal and Reagan was the father of the conservative movement, so the differences are quite vast."

Finally, there are those Reagan advisers who say: who cares? The whole Obama-Gipper comparison, they note, is nothing more than a red meat for the political pundits.

"I think Senator Obama's statement is happy fodder for columnists and commentators," remarked Reagan's speechwriter Peggy Noonan. "They can draw a measured comparison, assert the obvious as an insight, make a few jokes, and play to their bases. ("Obama makes a mistake in comparing himself to the ancient reactionary in whose thrall the right remains"; "I knew Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan was a friend of mine, and Senator Obama...") So this is all good for commenters, and as a member of that guild I say: thank you. But to break into reality for a second: If Barack Obama is a great man it will become apparent with time, and if he is not, that will become apparent too."

Barack Obama found himself under fire on Thursday for having compared his candidacy to Ronald Reagan's 1980 presidential run. "I don't want to present myself as some sort of singular figure," he told...
Barack Obama found himself under fire on Thursday for having compared his candidacy to Ronald Reagan's 1980 presidential run. "I don't want to present myself as some sort of singular figure," he told...
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it wont be long and the circus will be over.then we can vote for the clown of our choice.god forbid if the next clown runs things like bush or regan.we will all have to go to the middle east and work for chenney.th­at is where all the money is going.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 01/18/2008

Obama reached across party lines BUT ONLY TO RESPONSIBLE REPUBLICANS LIKE TOM COBURN which shows BETTER judgement than Reagan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 01/18/2008
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This is a whole lot of nothing. Obama didn't say that Reagan changed the political map for the BETTER, so how could he "endorsing" Reagan's policies? What he said was correct. Reagan did reshape the political dialogue of this country. So did FDR. Whether one or the other did so for the better depends on your poltical leanings.

What is the big deal? Bush has compared himself to both Truman and FDR multiple times. Truman to explain that, while his approval ratings are dismal today, like Truman, history (in his little mind) will vindicate him. And he's invoked FDR in one of his many attempts to equate Iraq (and now Iran) with WW II.

So what that Obama used a politician from the other side to make a point? The point was still valid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 01/18/2008

Its amazing! Every time I get on this site I am greeted with a big pic of Obama. In case you havent noticed, Arianna, we are NOT going to be told who to vote for in THIS election. How about being, oh, maybe FAIR??? Jeez!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 01/18/2008

Please don't say that. I regard Reagan as an idiot who has been enshrined by the corporate media because they liked what he did for them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 01/18/2008
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Obama wasn't comparing himself to Reagan; he was comparing the times. And in the same way Hillary compared the times that made LBJ's leadership and legislative skills so crucial to progress in civil rights, Obama is comparing the timultuous times of 1980 when America's collective self image was at an all-time low for social and fiscal conservatives, when Reagan's sunny (one might even say goofy) disposition and banal cheerleading seemed to be just what the doctor ordered, because it came across as a "message of hope."

Let's face it, Obama is so much more intelligent than Reagan was that it's almost like he's a different species. But Reagan was a sort of idiot sevant in the political realm - he could really play his base like a master. And that, more than anythng else, was what distinguished his time in office. Obama's a brilliant man and a powerful communicator, but does he have a genius for politics? We shall see...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 01/18/2008

Why don't people realize Obama is NOT going to win. Repigs are trumping him up because anyone else will give them a problem in the general election, YES even Hillary.
*Please note I'm for Gore there's still hope in me he might run. If not write in, or next best Edwards!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 01/18/2008

Has Obama head gotten a little big these days. How can a Democrat running for office compares himself to Reagan, a union buster and someone who has rolled back civility in the conservative community. He should be called on this, but of course the Obama Post and other media outlet will give him a pass.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 01/18/2008

How Reagan damaged our democracy and the middle class:

1. Reagan got the middle class to vote against their own best interests, thereby allowing him to take their money and give it it the filthy rich. He did this using racism (southern strategy) and talking about "welfare queens driving Cadillacs" squandering tax money. He use these ploys as a smoke screen while was giving billions of dollars to the rich which amounted to "corporate welfare". Also, somehow, he got the middle class to believe in the big lie of "trickle down"; that they would actually benefit from supply side economics.
Remember that when Reagan entered office, one family worker could support a family; by the time he left office, it took two workers to support a family .
Finally, Reagan lowered taxes for the rich, but increased taxes on the middle class by doubling the social security tax.

2. After saying that he was pro union to gather their support, Reagan stabbed the Unions in the back and virtually destroyed them.

3. Reagan stole money from the weakest among us and gave it to corporations and his rich friends -- this money was taken from the mentally ill, health care, education, veterans, etc.

4. Reagan increased our national debt more than all the presidents before him combined, and borrowed money from the social security fund to hide this and keep, at least in the short run, the USA from an economic disaster. .

5. The Iran-Contra Affair especially showed what an absolute hypocrite Reagan was.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 01/18/2008
- wsblake I'm a Fan of wsblake 9 fans permalink

Why not just choose Ehmer Olmert and cut out the middleman?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 AM on 01/18/2008

Ok.. does anyone else wonder who the next "Obama is like" will surface? So far we have MLK, JFK & Reagan. Meanwhile he's shouting in Spanish the rally cry of Hispanics hero. Hmmm, doesn't that smack of the advice he, himself gave to Hillary? That her comments about the Afro-Americans greatest hero, MLK, was "ill-advised". Apparently, I also was incorrect in thinking he was one of our greatest AMERICAN heroes. Sadly, it's the same old crap. The double standards when it comes to racial issues & as usual, "specal kid-gloves" must be worn on one side while the other side plays it both ways with absolute freedom. Frankly, I'm sick of this.It would be so wrong to kick up a stink about the White minority heroes. Why isn't it just as wrong for ALL races to be so openly racial? Obama, you ain't no JFK or Reagan, but nice try. I'm wondering how you're going to attempt to morph yourself into Jesus next.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 AM on 01/18/2008

What exactly did Regan do for this nation? I've heard right wing talk radio hosts fawn over this guy. You hear them talk about those good old days when Ronald Regan was in office and how great a time it was. Other than good music in the 80's (which can hardly be attributed to Ronald Regan) I can't remember one good thing about that time. Personally I think Regan was nothing more than a Bus driver who followed Margaret Thatchers lead. The man was not a great orator like JFK or RFK. The man did not have any original ideas. He was not a fiscal conservative, was not strong on national security (granted amnesty to all the illegal immigrants at the time), did not secure the border, set up Saddam Hussein to become a boil on the ass of the world. What exactly did this guy do that was so great? I don't remember the economy of the 80's being that good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 AM on 01/18/2008
- monique I'm a Fan of monique 11 fans permalink

And people rave about what a great orator he is?!

Well, I think Obama lost me on that one.

Reagan?! Maybe Obama's aide handed him his talking points too soon, and he lost them--oops!--and he was reading from the wrong piece of paper when he voiced this blunder.

As Bill said, talk about a "fairy tale!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 AM on 01/18/2008
- USMC1980 I'm a Fan of USMC1980 11 fans permalink

First Stein and other try to compare Obama to the great JFK, then the great RFK...and when it becomes obvious what a laughable comparison those are, they roll out Ronald Reagan. If Obama wants to be seen as the GOP candidate of choice, thats fine...but when the Democratic party, Unions and Black Americans, abandon him...his campaign will only have themselves to blame:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 AM on 01/18/2008

to hear a black man compare himself to reagan is scary, truly scary. reagan hated blacks with a passion, so i can't imagine aligning myself with someone who equates themselves with a deep seated racist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 AM on 01/18/2008
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