Reagan Advisers See A Bit Of Their Former Boss In Obama

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First Posted: 01-17-08 04:31 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Barack Obama found himself under fire on Thursday for having compared his candidacy to Ronald Reagan's 1980 presidential run.

"I don't want to present myself as some sort of singular figure," he told the Reno Gazette-Journal editorial board earlier this week. "I think part of what is different is the times. I do think that, for example, the 1980 election was different. I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not."

The remark did not go over well in progressive circles. On Thursday, Sen. John Edwards, Obama's opponent for the Democratic nomination, ripped into him for the analogy, saying, "I can promise you this: this president will never use Ronald Reagan as an example for change."

But while Obama has felt the heat from within his own party, several former Reagan officials and even his son suggest that there are elements of historical truth to the comparison.

"If I understand what he was saying I can't entirely disagree with it. They both came along at times when society was on the cusp of change and they are both agents of change," Ron Reagan told the Huffington Post. "As far as Barack Obama being a similar agent of change, that remains to be seen. But what I do see him saying is that we are in a historical moment right now like the 60s and 80s. And I think he's right. We are overdue for a cultural shift."

Other Reagan aides grabbed onto the comparison, drawing historical similarities between the end of the Carter administration and the contemporary political landscape. The economic malaise and hangover from Vietnam of the late 1970s, they argued, are analogous in some ways to the middle class unrest and backlash to neo-conservatism today. And yet, for several Reaganites, it was the tone and tenor of Obama that best echoed the image of their former boss.

"Ronald Reagan was an inspirational leader who also was a uniter. There was never any vindictive stuff to the other side," said Lawrence Korb, a former Reagan aide and current Obama supporter who serves as a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress. "In 1983, when you had the commission to fix Social Security, which basically gave us 20 more years with the program, after it was over Reagan would not campaign against any [Democrat] who supported that. And the harshest thing he said against [Walter] Mondale was that he was too young. There was never any of this vindictiveness... I think Obama is trying to get us back to that pleasantness."

Added Peter Robinson, a research fellow at the Hoover Institute and a speechwriter for Reagan's White House: "I do believe Obama is right in looking back at the election of 1980 and saying that was a historical inflection point. Of course there is a certain amount of self-flattery involved in that statement, but he might be right." Robinson added: "I do think Ronald Reagan would have found Barack Obama appealing."

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Others former Reagan officials said they saw aspects of Reagan in Obama's attempt to present himself as the candidate outside the status quo.

"A lot of people of different persuasions see him as the only candidate in the race who has much chance of creating any change. My friends don't see much difference between Hillary Clinton and McCain and George Bush for that matter. Whether it is justified or not, I don't know. But there has been some sort of feeling that among people in the running, that Obama might actually change the status quo," said Paul Craig Roberts, the man tasked with overseeing Reaganomics. "I think that's the way Reagan came across, that he was not the status quo president. And of course whenever someone comes into office they turn into the status quo, but it takes a little longer to get that way when you don't start out there."

Of course, with any historical analysis there are multiple interpretations. And some former Reagan advisers, even those who see a bit of the 1980 Gipper in Obama's current candidacy, point to sharp contrasts between the two.

"The dynamics are entirely different," said Bruce Fein, Reagan's deputy attorney general. "Reagan's campaign was built on expanding and strengthening the confidence of the United States at a time when it was at its lowest depth, and we had a direct confrontation with the Soviet Union... We have an opposite problem today. We have an arrogance. We have a government that feels it is too superior... We have an executive branch that is bloated and ballooned suggesting that Osama bin Laden is the equivalent of the Soviet Union... I think [Obama's] comparison shows he is living in a different mental universe than people who know history... It seems to me [Obama] is the same old thing other than the mindless statement of change. What does that even mean?"

Added Charlie Black, an senior adviser to Reagan and George H.W. Bush: "[Obama] is a charismatic man, is very articulate and makes a great speech, but I think the similarities with Reagan stop there. He is a very doctrinaire liberal and Reagan was the father of the conservative movement, so the differences are quite vast."

Finally, there are those Reagan advisers who say: who cares? The whole Obama-Gipper comparison, they note, is nothing more than a red meat for the political pundits.

"I think Senator Obama's statement is happy fodder for columnists and commentators," remarked Reagan's speechwriter Peggy Noonan. "They can draw a measured comparison, assert the obvious as an insight, make a few jokes, and play to their bases. ("Obama makes a mistake in comparing himself to the ancient reactionary in whose thrall the right remains"; "I knew Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan was a friend of mine, and Senator Obama...") So this is all good for commenters, and as a member of that guild I say: thank you. But to break into reality for a second: If Barack Obama is a great man it will become apparent with time, and if he is not, that will become apparent too."

Barack Obama found himself under fire on Thursday for having compared his candidacy to Ronald Reagan's 1980 presidential run. "I don't want to present myself as some sort of singular figure," he told...
Barack Obama found himself under fire on Thursday for having compared his candidacy to Ronald Reagan's 1980 presidential run. "I don't want to present myself as some sort of singular figure," he told...
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- pizzmoe I'm a Fan of pizzmoe 20 fans permalink

This was, for me, a major gaffe by Obama, certainly the biggest one he's made so far. I hope he takes this one back!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 01/17/2008

Don't worry...tomorrow Obama will say his overzealous staff handed him the wrong paper and he'll be unaccountable again...untouchable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 01/17/2008
- Nic I'm a Fan of Nic permalink

Obama,everyday I learn something new about you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 01/17/2008

More Ronnie love from Obama's book:

***Obama: Reagan's central insight (of Democratic liberal policy) contained a "good deal of truth."

Pages 156-157

"The conservative revolution Reagan helped usher in gained traction because Reagan's central insight--that the liberal welfare state had grown complacent and overly bureaucratic, with Democratic policy makers more obsessed with slicing the economic pie than with growing he pie--contained a good deal of truth."***

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 01/17/2008

Obama may be leading in polls but the fact is that recently he said that =
he did not want his staff to give him any paper until 2 seconds for fear =
he would lose it. He also said that he was not a chief operating officer =
and said that being President is not making sure that schedules are =
being run properly.
In contrast Hillary responded on the MSNBC debate that she would lead =
from day 1.
With the kind of comments from Obama above his he =
really suitable for the highest job ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 01/17/2008
- mageduley I'm a Fan of mageduley 4 fans permalink

You know the stupidity is mind boggeling. So Obama makes the statement that Americans have always had hope, and gives historical examples of the American Revolution, going to the moon, civil rights.

Then the Hillbots say Obama claims to be MLK.

So now he makes another historical analogy - that Regan had an appeal to unite the country.

Now the hillbots say Obama claims he is Regan incarnated and is secretly a republican.

I think it is now clear why the majority of hillary supporters are the under educated working class.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 01/17/2008
- sarnold49 I'm a Fan of sarnold49 2 fans permalink

"Ronald Reagan was an inspirational leader who also was a uniter. There was never any vindictive stuff to the other side," said Lawrence Korb, a former Reagan aide and current Obama supporter who serves as a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress.

Give me a break! There was tons of vindictive stuff coming from the Reagan years, hell there was bitterness in his own family because two of his children are democrats and two are republicans and there was public family arguments! And he was not a uniter and why the hell is his supporters supporting Obama?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 01/17/2008
- ltyr2002 I'm a Fan of ltyr2002 15 fans permalink

This has gotten so ridiculous!
Now Obama is Reagan. He used to be MLK, and JFK.

From the posts and rabid sychophancy of his followers, you'd think he is the second coming of Christ.

Friggin awful. A guy with the puniest record in memory being hailed as the solution to all our problems.

America is finished if we get another know it all greenhorn in the White House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 01/17/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1625 fans permalink
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Oh shit! Just when I was beginning to like this Obama fella.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 01/17/2008

the minor difference is that reagan could read the lines but obama can actually write them himself

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 01/17/2008

You guys are all missing the point...

The Big A put this across the top of the page so everyone can insinuate that Obama will be accepted by Republicans!

She's trying to end the questions about electibility!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 01/17/2008

I got your gipper right here, pal!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 01/17/2008

To think that a president with alzheimers had his finger that close to the button

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 01/17/2008

Over the holidays, I finally closely examined Obama. I was already quite familiar with Richardson, Clinton, and Edwards. It didn't take long at all to know all there was to know all about Obama; he has a one page resume. When asked about some of his major achievements, he mentioned some restrictions on lobbyist's taking office-holders out to lunch. His record shows this really is one of his major achievements. The choice is now between Clinton and Edwards. I've already made my choice. With his Reagan remark, I'd imagine this choice between Clinton and Edwards now becomes universal among Democrats. Edwards and Clinton are still the party of Franklin Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, & Johnson. Reagan wasn't a thin slice of any of these men. Reagan always lied and Carter never did. Clinton brought us peace and prosperity and Reagan never did. While I don't support Obama, I hope his uttering a likeness of himself and Reagan was a collosal blunder rather than a real belief of his. I wish him well as Senator Obama but I'd never want him to be the candidate for President of our party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 01/17/2008

If Obama thinks Ronald Reagan "changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not," he may be right -- way far right. With a comment like this, Obama invites renewed scrutiny of his political pedigree, if not his motives and qualifications. If he thinks Reagan's trajectory was a good thing, then he is a hopeless juvenile delinquent who doesn't know jackshit about history or current events. Ronald Reagan was dumb as a door. After a pathetic screen actor's career, he became Lew Wasserman's puppet as president of the Screen Actors Guild (SAG), and then he became president of us. The rich got richer while he waterboarded everyone else and scuttled social and economic progress. To hold Reagan up as any sort of trailblazer is like holding up Howdy Doody, by his marionette strings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 01/17/2008
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