Ethnic, Race, Male-Female Voting Patterns Deciding The Democratic Nomination

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First Posted: 01-21-08 08:53 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Looking at the recent male-female and white-black-Latino voting patters in Nevada, and recent survey results from South Carolina voters, it is now likely that the Democratic contest for the presidential nomination will become a hard-fought competition not only between generations, but also between politically mobilized racial and ethnic groups, as well as a battle between the sexes. The percentage of each primary electorate that is female, African American or Latino will be especially crucial to the outcome.

"The worry for the Democrats, I think, is a battle to the end that appears to the inattentive median voter as over identity politics," said Columbia University political scientist Robert Erikson. "Obama could face a danger of appearing as the 'black' candidate or Hillary as the 'women's' candidate."

Matt Dowd, a renegade Democrat-turned-Republican pollster (who was a senior strategist for both of George W. Bush's campaigns), put it succinctly: "Share of vote by groups is crucial now."

In the initial contest, the January 3 Iowa caucuses, race and gender divisions were masked when Obama won among the overwhelmingly white and non-Hispanic, very liberal Democratic caucus electorate - an electorate with a larger than average number of young people.

The outcome there raised expectations that the role of identity politics in the 2008 nomination fight would be muted, and that the election might be "color blind," despite the fact that the two front-runners are a black man and a white woman.

In virtually all-white New Hampshire, the election was in fact color-blind, but gender surfaced for the first time as a determinative factor. Clinton, who had lost among women in Iowa, won their vote in the Granite State by a 46-34 margin, while men backed Obama 40-29 - a striking 23-point gender gap, according to exit poll data. Women made up 57 percent of all New Hampshire voters, so the differences in male and female voting worked decisively in Clinton's favor.

Robert D. Putnam, a Harvard University political scientist and the author of Bowling Alone, noted that in New Hampshire the differences in male and female support for Clinton and Obama combined with the generation gap in complex ways - and may continue to do so in future contests:

"The Democratic race seems to pit boomer women against their own sons and daughters. Both anecdotally and in the data, there is a very big gender gap among boomers, with boomer women responding very strongly and viscerally in support of Hillary, but there is not nearly such a big gender gap among the under 30s, who favor Obama. I think those two candidacies resonate in a very deep way with each of those two groups."

Putnam said this finding, which he spotted in the New Hampshire exit poll data, runs parallel to a trend he found in the course of exploring attitudes toward abortion:

"The most firmly pro-choice demographic group in the population are boomer women [born between 1946 and 1964] and the least firmly pro-choice demographic group are women under 30 [born after 1978].... I'm convinced that to look at the Democratic contest solely in terms of race vs. gender is to miss the more important generational cleavage."

Alan Abramowitz, an Emory University political scientist, similarly noted the importance of "the generational divide which has been very large in the Democratic primaries." In addition, he warned, "Obama can't win if this becomes a contest about race and gender so he needs to try to expand his appeal among more traditional Democrats, women, Latinos, etc."

The entrance polls in Nevada showed in more detail how three of these factors - race, sex and ethnicity - are in play.

Women were an even larger share of the Nevada Democratic electorate than in New Hampshire, 59 percent, and Clinton carried them 51 percent to Obama's 38 percent. Men backed Obama by a slight margin of 45 to 43.

Nevada added two new additional ingredients to the contest: substantial African American and Latino constituencies, each of which made up 15 percent of Democratic caucus goers.

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African Americans backed Obama over Clinton in Nevada by an extraordinary 7 to 1 -- 83 percent to 14 percent. The black vote in the Silver State caucus dealt a blow to the Clinton campaign, which had calculated that she would lose among blacks, but that the margin would be far smaller.

In a development signaling internal tension between two minority communities crucial to the Democratic Party, Latino voters went in the opposite direction from African Americans. Latinos backed Clinton by better than 2 to 1, 64-26, despite the endorsement of Obama by leaders of the heavily Hispanic Culinary Workers Union and by SEIU locals.

Sergio Bendixen, a Clinton pollster who specializes in Latino voting patterns, told Ryan Lizza of the New Yorker that "the Hispanic vote is extremely important to the Clinton campaign." He then added - fully aware of how controversial his comment could become - "The Hispanic voter - and I want to say this very carefully - has not shown a lot of willingness or affinity to support black candidates."

White Democrats in Nevada backed Clinton by a solid 52-34 margin.

These trends all point to a Democratic electorate dividing along black-white, male-female, black-Latino and generational lines - a trend that polls here in South Carolina suggest will continue, and perhaps grow stronger, in the January 26 primary.

Here in Columbia, South Carolina the most recent polls show a significant racial divide. Among white Democrats, according to a SurveyUSA poll, Clinton gets 50 percent, John Edwards 26, and Obama 22. Conversely, among African American Democrats, Obama leads with 74 percent, to Clinton's 20 and Edwards 3.

David C. Leege, a Notre Dame University political scientist, noted:

"The Clintons have always been skillful at playing the race and gender cards. While African-Americans resonated to him, Bill Clinton still made that campaign attack on Sister Souljah in 1992, and his numbers among working class white males zoomed up. Last week Hillary Rodham reminded us that Obama is an African-American -- I think the [Bob] Johnson thing was originally just a little slip but she quickly learned how to play it for her advantage -- and she will show increasing gains among those 'unprejudiced' folks who say racism is a thing of the past in this country, but who, deep down, cannot believe that a black male is qualified to be president (they use drugs, you know; they don't trust whitey) or else worry about his electability because they suspect the electorate in general is as prejudiced as they are.


"As time wears on, she will also hone women's support, but cautiously, because she can ill afford any more loss of males in the general election. She has to remain tender and vulnerable on matters of love, and cannot be perceived as beyond the affections of a man. In general, I would look for Republican front organizations to use her youthful commencement speech at Wellesley in negative ways. She must remind voters by her adult behavior that she is not a castrating feminist, which I don't think she is. . . . competitive, yes, but not castrating."

Looking at racial tensions from a different vantage point, Columbia political scientist Frederick Harris, author of It Takes a Tragedy to Arouse Them: Collective Memory and Collective Action during the Civil Rights Movement, noted that:

"From my perspective an obvious story would be how race operates in the two primaries in South Carolina. On the Republican side, visits to Bob Jones and references to the Confederate Flag are interesting. On the Democratic side, the injection of 'race' in the campaign between Obama and Clinton is interesting since the three 'race' issues that have been a disadvantage to Democrats--crime, welfare, and affirmative action--are no longer a problem for the party."
Looking at the recent male-female and white-black-Latino voting patters in Nevada, and recent survey results from South Carolina voters, it is now likely that the Democratic contest for the ...
Looking at the recent male-female and white-black-Latino voting patters in Nevada, and recent survey results from South Carolina voters, it is now likely that the Democratic contest for the ...
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- dcazal01 I'm a Fan of dcazal01 9 fans permalink

Some naive people have accused me of spreading nonsense and bullshit when addressing the point of Obama Muslim background. I will tell them that we should seriously consider these facts:

1) For many Muslims, if he memorized the Muslim prayers when he was a child and I am sure he did since he went to a madrassa in Indonesia, he is either a Muslim or a traitor.

2) His Muslim background is clearly established his father was a Muslim, his step father was a Muslim, he was educated as a Muslim, her mother who married 2 Muslims and sent his son to a Muslim school may have been a Muslim, his grandmother who is alive in Kenya is a Muslim.

3) Republicans are not using this now (hoping he is nominated) but they will use this facts and some non facts to swift boat him as soon as he get nominated.

4) There are also rumors (for this I have no proof) of his Kenyan ancestors involvement in the slave trade as recently as the 20th century.

5) Even that for western standards religion is a problem of conscience and we can change religion at any moment in our life. Many Muslim scholars have different interpretations of the Islamic law, and for most of them if you pray to Allah when you were a child even once, and Obama did that many times, you are a Muslim, even more if your father was a Muslim with no regard for your mother's beliefs.

Not considering this important facts before is too late is irresponsible and childish and underscore the superficiality of our primaries system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 01/22/2008
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 88 fans permalink

Possible crossover voters and independents will be so repelled by this for freefor all between two historically
minority candidates its a virtual Repug win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 01/21/2008
- dcazal01 I'm a Fan of dcazal01 9 fans permalink

There are many big problems with Obama candidacy and it seems that he could be as divisive as Hillary.

1) He got 90% of a specific minority vote, this will make everybody else feel excluded.

2) If he used to be a Muslim and now he is a Christian this is an abomination for the Muslim world and all Muslim's duty should be to kill him according to the law. An ex-Muslim is worst than a gay-dog for most Muslims

3) We do not know what is he for, since there is no specifics in his campaign and his past is too short. He is for change but what change.

We now have two democratic candidates that are very divisive this will open the door for a Mc Cain presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 01/21/2008
- dcazal01 I'm a Fan of dcazal01 9 fans permalink

The reason why so many whites and Latinos are voting for Hillary is the result of 90% of the blacks voting for Obama.

We Latinos can vote for a black president but not for a president of the blacks. This has nothing to do with what he or she said it is a normal backlash. If blacks vote for blacks the we feel that is right for non blacks to vote for a non-black.

There have been some mulatto (as Obama is) presidents in Latino countries. In Venezuela we have Leoni and in the Dominican republic most of them are in Cuba we have Batista who was also of mixed race, but he was not the president of the blacks he was just a president who happens to be black.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 01/21/2008

For 200 years Men have been voting for Men and Women have been voting for Men. Now, there is an opportunity for Women to vote for a Woman and suddenly that is Gender-Based? Maybe Women (and Men) are finally getting an opportunity to vote FOR someone worth voting FOR. Most Men are secure enough to not think twice about it...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 01/21/2008

The fact that Oprah jumped in added an "element"--she helped George Bush get elected by making nice, nice, on her talk show...she did not assist Kerry when the Democrats could have used her help. Instead, she waited for the lightweight Obama...HELLO!!! President Clinton and Senator Clinton did not whine when Oprah supported Obama. The ex-President has as much right to support Senator Clinton and campaign for her as Michele O or Oprah have to campaign for Obaama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 01/21/2008

The Buzz from the Sacramento Bee ...


(http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/646229.html)


The Bee Recommends: Obama
He could bridge political divides



"As a former community organizer, civil rights lawyer and state legislator, Obama is familiar with real issues people face, and he has worked to solve them on the ground. As president, he says, he would cross party lines to find solutions to the nation's most vexing problems, from health care to global warming. There is reason to believe he could do that. His inspiring personal story and his communications skills could nudge Americans of all ages, but especially the young, to give more of themselves to aid the less fortunate in their communities.



"Unlike Clinton, Obama was an early opponent of the war in Iraq, because he thought it was a strategic blunder that would only hurt the United States. His credibility on that issue would position him well to end the occupation quickly while also giving him the flexibility to extend it if necessary to avoid shedding the blood of more innocent Iraqis.



"Obama's lack of experience at the highest levels of government might lead to mistakes. But that risk is smaller, in our view, than the benefit of moving on from the Bushes and the Clintons, who have been in the White House for longer than some young voters have been alive. That is why Obama is the best choice for the Democratic nomination for president."


Sweeter than honey, eh?

Martin Edwin "Mick" Andersen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 01/21/2008
- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 10 fans permalink

We all know Latinos do not consider themselves as people of color. They all look at themselves as being white. Then when they are mistreated they run to the black community for help. Yeah, this is how the Clinton are playing both side of the coin. Well the truth sure dose hurt, but we must own up to it. This why they say Latinos will not vote for a black man because they just as racist when is come to black people. It is a shame. Yeah, it is funny how white people talk about Latinos behind their backs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 01/21/2008
- joja I'm a Fan of joja 12 fans permalink

I'm so sick and tired of hearing all the Clinton propaganda about "Hussein" Obama and his being a Muslim, or an ex-Muslim, or whatever.

So fuckin' what? What if he is (or was) a Muslim? Would that be so bad?

I mean, think of it. How much political cache would he have with other world leaders? -- e-fucking-normous! The doors of just about every nation on earth would be thrown open to this man! Especially in the ME. You know, (Attention! Exxon-Mobil & Haliburton!) where the OIL is!!!

Imagine, The United States of America, a predominately Christian country, electing a black, Muslim (or ex) as its president?! Wow! We would finally be living up to the ideals we always preach to others! Can you imagine how powerful a message that would send around the world? It would be tectonic!

And it would completely undermine the terrorist argument against us. And probably end the boogie-man war on terror crap we've been subjected to for too long.

With Pres. Obama representing us, maybe we could truly change the world. Maybe the US could be looked on as the country by which all others are modeled, instead of one that seems to be universally despised.

He deserves the right to try.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 01/21/2008

You do what we say~~~~~~~~ you are not a person ~you are a group ~~~a pattern ~~a race ~a number~~~a number~~~ " i am number 1 you are number 6"
"I AM NOT A NUMBER I AM A FREE MAN!"
from "The Prisoner"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 01/21/2008
- uglybetty I'm a Fan of uglybetty 6 fans permalink

Matt Dowd, Is obviously stll drinking the same kool aid he had when he touted his MORON Bush, to everyone TWO times !!!

I am so sick of these idiot Men, trying to decide that we are all Fools !!!

Surprise...we hav minds of our OWN and fully intend to use them when we vote !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 01/21/2008
- Superfelo I'm a Fan of Superfelo 6 fans permalink

It needs to be said, Ronald Reagan was a transformative figure, whether for good or bad,
mostly for bad. Barack Obama's statement that
Ronald Reagan was a transformative figure, is a proven fact.
He was a transformative person because, dunderhead, as figurehead for a shadow government, that really runs things, got away with murder, including letting the Japanese have the run of this country, and then they rewarded him with $2,000,000 for a half hour speech after he left the "Big House".
A delayed bribe if you ask me. (Don't ask)
We had a measly deficit of $26,000,000,
when he was done it was a deficit of billions.
But he was a transformative figure although, he did not have a single racist bone in his body-probably it was the whole skeleton.
He was a transformative figure nevertheless.
Eaten alive or not Barack Obama deserves to run for President. People who love this country truly deserve to have someone like Obama run.
Martin Luther King Jr., being 39 years old and all, we would have said that things would never change; and what did we expect from somebody so young and inexperien­ced-dreams only, I guess. Fairy tales.

Enough said.


    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 01/21/2008
- terentz I'm a Fan of terentz 4 fans permalink

Oh, so they finally noticed. Please; it's been nothing BUT identity politics since New Hampshire. The Republicans must be salivating. Identity politics will get Hillary the Democratic nomination -- women and latinos will put her over the top in the primaries -- but then she'll promptly be crushed in the general election when her advantage among whites and women disappears.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 01/21/2008

The Clintons are a thing to behold.
Bill must have been laughing when
NBC followed his lead and spent the
first hour of the last debate talking
about race, which reinforces what
color skin Sen. Obama has in the
minds of white middle and lower
income voters.
When it's over, progressives and
young voters will be laid to waste due
to the Clintons' win at all cost
strategy. They will not be a force
after HRC's win.
On top of that, Congress will remain
just about the same in terms of party
split. The next four years will be one
Clinton mess up to the next, with
Republicans gunning hard at every
scandal.
Congrats Bill!
(Prediction: Republicans win congress back
in '10).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 01/21/2008

We are all being played...and as long as you allow yourselves to be played...IT WILL NOT STOP !!!!!

Diebold has a lot to do with the inaccuracies in our votes being counted. But it is so much bigger than that !!!

We no longer have open debates. The entire election process this cycle has been so totally RIGGED; Americans need to wake up...and it's almost too late.

OPEN DEBATES means every candidate running for President is allowed to be heard. They took that away from us starting with the Iowa caucus, and it has only gone downhill from there !! The Iowa caucus set a precedent, that has been upheld through the NH Primaries; the Nevada caucus; and now the SC Primaries to "Super Tuesday".

We have a voice..WE THE PEOPLE..and we are not using that voice. We are victims of the status quo.

"THEY" are corporate America...the corporate-owned media, that has taken control of our election process; and WE THE PEOPLE do not cry FOUL !!!

What the hell is wrong with the people of this country ??? APATHY!!!

Our election process from 2004 to today are two totally different animals. And in this election "they" are succeeding in dividing this country...the Democratic Party...even further, by placing labels such as "woman candidate"..."black candidate" and you don't see the division happening; how can you even HOPE to unite???

You need to start asking some very important questions; start seeing the problem so WE can come up with solutions.

I love this country too much to see it thrown down the tubes by a bunch of mindless sheep !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 01/21/2008
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