Jon Meacham's Battle For The The Daily Show! Media Is "Conflict- Driven"; Jon Stewart Violently Contests Homer Reference

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Conflict! Drama! Angrily-flung barbs across a tension-filled room! No, it wasn't the Democratic debate in South Carolina, and it wasn't the interview between Jon Stewart and Jonah Goldberg, because that is apparently locked away deep inside the Daily Show vaults. In truth, it wasn't Stewart's interview with Newsweek editor Jon Meacham, either, but apparently conflict sells. Meacham told Stewart that he thought the media's election coverage was "Not ideologically driven, but conflict-driven" and then explained that Time and Newsweek covers did better when they were framed in terms of conflict like, 'The War Over ___' or 'The Battle For Such-And-Such.' We took his advice for the title of our post and are anticipating a huge spike in traffic (but just to help guarantee that: Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul!)

Meacham on The Daily Show is not all that different from Meacham on Meet The Press — actually, there were more classical/historical references last night than he dropped on Sunday, including Homer, Thermopylae (as in, Hillary's crying is now "older than Thermopylae"), and the modern Presidential campaign as an "Arthurian quest" (not the Dudley Moore version, Jon clarified). Shades of Ted Danson: Meacham re-used his King Lear joke from Sunday morn, calling Bill Clinton "King Lear with a Southern Accent." (Sunday: "If King Lear had a Southern accent, he would be Bill Clinton.") Let's just say that Meacham's humor was slightly more highbrow than that bit with Jon Oliver.

NB: When Meacham said that he'd sat down with Hillary Clinton for an interview ten days ago, it sounded positively ancient and almost embarrassingly out-of-date. Think the media cycle's moving quickly in this election, maybe? Watch below; note quiet zinger of New York Post.



Related: Meet The Press Transcript - Jan. 20/08 [MSNBC]

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- Cathexis See Profile I'm a Fan of Cathexis

Meachem is right: Journalism *is* conflict driven.

While pursuing a Journalism degree, I was given an assignment to "write an article about the proposed city budget for Bexel (OH)."

I did so. It was informative, analytic, and comprehensive.

I got a "C" and the word "BORING" scrawled across the front page.

Well ... yes ... I had to admit, it *was* boring: It was the damned city budget info for Bexel!

I eventually learned how to snap things up, find angles, and try to say something about what I was writing about. But it *is* far easier if the topic has inherent "tension" in it.

Too many of today's Journalists are either lazy, overworked, or unskilled, IMO. They rely heavily on overt conflict -- focusing so intently that they manufacture it where it doesn't really exist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 01/24/2008
- cseper See Profile I'm a Fan of cseper

The right wing echo chamber is in full swing again. First one network tells a falsehood, then another network repeats it, another network attacks from a different point of view, another station reinforces it, and finally they are all summarizing the aggregate of their deceptions as if they they got it, and are passing news on to their audiences. T
he problem, of course, is that it isn't news, they are selling propaganda to persuade their audience about matters that are both inconsequential and superficial, therefore ending the debate with falsehoods. When they are not able to deceive, they obfuscate. When they are not able to obfuscate they confuse. When they could have respected their audiences they make fools of them. It is a disgrace. It is betrayal. It is self-serving garbage. It is anti-American and it is shameful. And all the while they pat each other on the back, telling each other just how smart they are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 01/23/2008
- oceanlover See Profile I'm a Fan of oceanlover

Mark Whitaker was no better as an editor - We have him to thank in large measure for blurring the lines between News and Advertising. I'm not sure the guy knows the difference. Little wonder he ended up at NBC News.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 01/23/2008
- publiccomment See Profile I'm a Fan of publiccomment

Conflict, the essence of drama, sells?! DUH!

One good thing about Don Imus not being on MSNBC any more is that we don't have to be treated to a weekly dose of Mr. Meachem's pronoucements of the obvious. (But I suppose that tendancy makes a good editor.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 01/23/2008
- inkabinkaboo182 See Profile I'm a Fan of inkabinkaboo182

I think it's great when guys like the editor there go on shows like the Daily Show and speak their mind... and then never act on it when they get back to where it matters - their position of power.

It's just friggin' great!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 01/23/2008
- pointpetre See Profile I'm a Fan of pointpetre

I greatly admire Jon Meacham. He is absolutely brilliant. Newsweek is actually a good magazine at present, and I believe he has a great deal to do with that fact.

Oh, as shown in the Daily Show interview, he is deeply into info-tainment and is a yellow journalist, a hardcore member of the Major Yellow Media. But, how many of them can be so honest about this reality as he is?

Yes, I wish he were not so rare, because the major yellow media is so largely disreputable and dispicable. I don't expect we are going to see a legitimate and proportionate mainstream journalism in our lifetimes, but Meacham does represent a brighter shade of yellow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 AM on 01/23/2008
- godlessclif See Profile I'm a Fan of godlessclif

I notice the Newsweek guy says Huckabee, Ron Paul and Kucinich are not viable and Guiliani, Hillary and Obama are regardless of votes they get. It is conflict driven all right. The MSM supports the conflict in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 01/23/2008
- avicenna See Profile I'm a Fan of avicenna

It's quite eerie how much the Bush administration's and the corporate media's approach to business are alike...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 AM on 01/23/2008
- Trittydi See Profile I'm a Fan of Trittydi

This is an interesting evaluation.

We stopped getting ANY newspapers 10 years ago - they were all too conservative. Writers like Kass and Charon - just to name a few from the Chicago Tribune - turned reading the paper into an unpleasant experience.

We turned off the TV in our house 17 years ago. No exceptions. We watch NOTHING. We didn't want our children owned by corporate America - NOT to mention the really trashy shows (yes - we missed some good stuff - that's life ...)

They can keep their conflict driven media - we've never been sorry for our decisions.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 01/23/2008
- DocManhattan See Profile I'm a Fan of DocManhattan

So, news is conflict drive. How is that a surprise?

Any good story has tension, conflict, some kind of battle against adversity, winners, losers, and some kind of a surprise. Otherwise it's just boring and nobody wants to know.

How much more so in this day and age, when news departments are treated as "profit centres" rather than public services?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 01/23/2008
- NewtonMinnow See Profile I'm a Fan of NewtonMinnow

I wish Meacham were only boring. The problem is, he uses his considerable influence to drag religion into discussions of politics and public policy. He thinks it fitting and proper that we should do this. And he talks of "America's 'public religion' -- the broad belief in a God who created the world, who was attentive to history and to prayers, who intervened in the affairs of humankind through providence, and who would ultimately reward or punish men for their conduct."
For some reason, Meacham is not content to follow Jesus' advice in Matthew 6:6:
"But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."
Maybe it's because pushing religion in public is just so damned lucrative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 01/22/2008
- GoodwithWood See Profile I'm a Fan of GoodwithWood

"Release the Goldberg tapes"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 01/22/2008
- andyg See Profile I'm a Fan of andyg

what Conflict, it a fake news show with fake conflict, newsweek and the daily show what's the difference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 01/22/2008
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