Cheney Wants Surveillance Law Expanded

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TOM RAUM | January 23, 2008 03:34 PM EST | AP

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Vice President Dick Cheney speaks at The Heritage Foundation, Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2008, in Washington. (AP Photo/Haraz N. Ghanbari)

WASHINGTON — Vice President Dick Cheney prodded Congress on Wednesday to extend and broaden an expiring surveillance law, saying "fighting the war on terror is a long-term enterprise" that should not come with an expiration date.

"We're reminding Congress that they must act now," Cheney told the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. The law, which authorizes the administration to eavesdrop on phone calls and see the e-mail to and from suspected terrorists, expires on Feb. 1. Congress is bickering over terms of its extension.

On Tuesday, Senate Republicans blocked an effort by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to extend the stopgap Protect America Act without expanding it, raising stakes for an expected showdown in the Senate later this week on a new version of the law.

"This cause is bigger than the quarrels of party and the agendas of politicians," Cheney said. "And if we in Washington, all of us, can only see our way clear to work together, then the outcome should not be in doubt."

Congress hastily adopted the stopgap act last summer in the face of warnings from the administration about dangerous gaps in the government's ability to gather intelligence in the Internet age.

Administration allies in Congress not only want the expiring law made permanent but amended to give telephone companies and other communications providers immunity from being sued for helping the government eavesdropping and other intelligence-gathering efforts.

Cheney said such providers "face dozens of lawsuits."

"The intelligence community doesn't have the facilities to carry out the kind of international surveillance needed to defend this country since 9-11. In some situations, there is no alternative to seeking assistance from the private sector. This is entirely appropriate," Cheney said.

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At the White House, press secretary Dana Perino defended the proposal to protect phone companies from liability. "These are companies who helped their country right after 9-11," she said. She also criticized Democratic plans for a one-month extension of the current law. "Look, there's been six months to hash out the differences. Actually, there's been a whole year-and-a-half worth ... And there was robust debate, a hearty debate back in August when we got the bill that we have now."

At the heart of the controversy is whether the government's wireless surveillance program violated provisions of the original FISA law that requires warrants for wiretaps whenever one of the parties involved in the communication resides in the United States.

Cheney also said the administration "feels strongly that an updated FISA law should be made permanent, not merely extended again. ... There is no sound reason to pass critical legislation like the Protect America Act and slap an expiration date on it."

Reid plans to bring to the Senate floor on Thursday competing versions of the legislation.

If a bill is not approved then, Reid said he would require the Senate to work through the weekend to get a bill passed.

The original FISA law requires the government to get permission from a special court to listen in on the phone calls and e-mails of people in the United States. Changes in communications technology mean many purely foreign to foreign communications now pass through the United States and therefore require the government to get court orders to intercept them.

The Protect America Act, adopted in August, eased that restriction. Privacy and civil liberties advocates say it went too far, giving the government far more power to eavesdrop on American communications without court oversight.

WASHINGTON — Vice President Dick Cheney prodded Congress on Wednesday to extend and broaden an expiring surveillance law, saying "fighting the war on terror is a long-term enterprise" that shoul...
WASHINGTON — Vice President Dick Cheney prodded Congress on Wednesday to extend and broaden an expiring surveillance law, saying "fighting the war on terror is a long-term enterprise" that shoul...
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cheneyhasa­warmachine (See profile | I'm a fan of cheneyhasa­warmachine­)
thats a little over the top dont you think. the point is let another attack happen and katie bar the door our country will be done. dick n' bush know this and they are not going to allow another attack, the dems however see no reason for the tools needed to protect our country - perhaps knowing the white house is theirs in 09 they want our gaurd to be down.

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Stupid/scary post number 2.

Here's a moron sooo scared of the big bad islamo-fascist man that he would advocate ANYTHING for the illusion of security.

He's so stupid as to think that a faction that took ten years to execute a plan that knocked down 2 buildings, damaged a third and killed 3000 people in a country the size of America. An America that boasts the third largest population in the world at over 300,000,000. An America with millions of high-rise buildings. An America with the best equipped and best trained army in the world. An America with 2 guns for every citizen. He thinks that a faction that boasts maybe 20-30,000 adherents world-wide could bring us to our knees, invade and conquer us.

This is the thinking that will finally bring us to our knees. Not al-Qaeda, not the Taliban, but unrelenting fear that leads us to reliquish that which makes us unique-our civil rights as citizens.

We have seen the enemy and he is us--Pogo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 01/23/2008
- Beelzebul I'm a Fan of Beelzebul 55 fans permalink

Protect America Act. Patriotic Act. Homeland Security.

Titles that make Americans feel all warm and fuzzy while the government slowly but surely intrudes into every aspect of their lives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 01/23/2008
- AZM I'm a Fan of AZM 3 fans permalink

What is the first thing that dictatorships do when taking over a country? They institute surveillance tactics as part of their reign of terror!
Be afraid! Be very afraid!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 01/23/2008
- UncleDave I'm a Fan of UncleDave 8 fans permalink

'The war on Terra has no expiration date'. No kidding,Dick. It's only just begun. You Thugs have been terrorizing my every waking moment and even my nightmares for oh these long,long years. And no doubt,when You cancel elections and take up permament residency,You'll terrorize us all 'indefinately'. Shutter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 01/23/2008

Before this "Lame duck" presidency gets one more free ride, everybody go to "You Tube" and look up Benazir Bhutto. Watch her tell David Frost that Osama Bin Laden is dead and him sit there without blinking an eye. Maybe this is why she was killed--she was gonna talk. Where is Huffington Post on this? Why is Cheney and Bush getting all this sick mileage? Becuase this country is no longer ours.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 01/23/2008
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Do the new surveillance rules exclude the 473 days of missing Administration E-mails?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 01/23/2008
- Imzadi I'm a Fan of Imzadi 75 fans permalink
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Darth Cheney - IMPEACH the bastard!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!

- he's the evil behind all of our Administration's raping of the Constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 01/23/2008
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It makes no sense at all when Bush and Cheney say there hasn't been a major terrorist attack since 9/11/01.

There was never one BEFORE 9/11/01.

So the only one that ever happened was on THEIR watch.

It's like if you had three kids and Cheney murdered one of them.

"None of your kids have been murdered since ..."

Seems to me if we'd never allowed Bush and Cheney to steal the election, none of this would have happened.

Gore knew about bin Laden.

Dubya knew about him too, but only as a business partner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 01/23/2008

Let's see..this is the clown who won't even tell us which Energy companies he met with or release his medical records...­but he wants to spy EVEN MORE on us? Yeah, right...do we really have to wait until next January to dump this fascist doofus?? (yeah, I mean that...if you think this guy isn't a fascist, go back to the dictionary and try again).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 01/23/2008
- politicky I'm a Fan of politicky 14 fans permalink
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Could some kind cardiologist please find a way to make sure the next battery that goes into Darth is defective?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 01/23/2008
- LaFeminazi I'm a Fan of LaFeminazi 236 fans permalink
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I sooooo trust government.

Sigh.

Anything they want, no problemo.

Here are the keys and pass words, decryption codes ok, see ya'll later have fun.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 01/23/2008
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Tell Cheney he can do whatever he wants for the next 11-plus months as long as he agrees to be the subject of an execution next January 20th.

Pay per view should take care of the deficit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 01/23/2008
- drblack I'm a Fan of drblack 19 fans permalink

The Greatest danger to American Freedom and prosperity is the American Government, especially as envisioned by the neoCONS and supported by many democrats.
We are becoming the new Soviet union and will have as much Freedom as the citizens of Red Communist China.
Cheney, Bush , neoCONS will steal your personal power and Freedom but you will not be safer.
No one will be saved but we all will be slaves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 01/23/2008
- syllepsis I'm a Fan of syllepsis 24 fans permalink

Cheney can have his surveillance laws, once he proves he did not meet with Osama bin Laden during those Energy Task Force meetings that he held without turning over the minutes or the visitor logs to Congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 01/23/2008
- Beelzebul I'm a Fan of Beelzebul 55 fans permalink

One things stands out above all in this story:

When the government grabs more power, the government does not want to give it back. Instead, it wants even more.

For seven years now, the Bush administration has used fear to grab enormous amounts of power it shouldn't have ever gotten. Both parties are responsible and neither party is going to give back that power w/o one hell of a fight.

It is beyond my thinking how anyone could trust anything this corrupt government of ours does. Power and wealth is now securely in the hands of the top 1% and its going to take a lot more than a new president in November to change that. It's going to take a grassroots movement in communities across this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 01/23/2008
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