Cheney Wants Surveillance Law Expanded

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TOM RAUM | January 23, 2008 03:34 PM EST | AP

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Vice President Dick Cheney speaks at The Heritage Foundation, Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2008, in Washington. (AP Photo/Haraz N. Ghanbari)

WASHINGTON — Vice President Dick Cheney prodded Congress on Wednesday to extend and broaden an expiring surveillance law, saying "fighting the war on terror is a long-term enterprise" that should not come with an expiration date.

"We're reminding Congress that they must act now," Cheney told the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. The law, which authorizes the administration to eavesdrop on phone calls and see the e-mail to and from suspected terrorists, expires on Feb. 1. Congress is bickering over terms of its extension.

On Tuesday, Senate Republicans blocked an effort by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to extend the stopgap Protect America Act without expanding it, raising stakes for an expected showdown in the Senate later this week on a new version of the law.

"This cause is bigger than the quarrels of party and the agendas of politicians," Cheney said. "And if we in Washington, all of us, can only see our way clear to work together, then the outcome should not be in doubt."

Congress hastily adopted the stopgap act last summer in the face of warnings from the administration about dangerous gaps in the government's ability to gather intelligence in the Internet age.

Administration allies in Congress not only want the expiring law made permanent but amended to give telephone companies and other communications providers immunity from being sued for helping the government eavesdropping and other intelligence-gathering efforts.

Cheney said such providers "face dozens of lawsuits."

"The intelligence community doesn't have the facilities to carry out the kind of international surveillance needed to defend this country since 9-11. In some situations, there is no alternative to seeking assistance from the private sector. This is entirely appropriate," Cheney said.

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At the White House, press secretary Dana Perino defended the proposal to protect phone companies from liability. "These are companies who helped their country right after 9-11," she said. She also criticized Democratic plans for a one-month extension of the current law. "Look, there's been six months to hash out the differences. Actually, there's been a whole year-and-a-half worth ... And there was robust debate, a hearty debate back in August when we got the bill that we have now."

At the heart of the controversy is whether the government's wireless surveillance program violated provisions of the original FISA law that requires warrants for wiretaps whenever one of the parties involved in the communication resides in the United States.

Cheney also said the administration "feels strongly that an updated FISA law should be made permanent, not merely extended again. ... There is no sound reason to pass critical legislation like the Protect America Act and slap an expiration date on it."

Reid plans to bring to the Senate floor on Thursday competing versions of the legislation.

If a bill is not approved then, Reid said he would require the Senate to work through the weekend to get a bill passed.

The original FISA law requires the government to get permission from a special court to listen in on the phone calls and e-mails of people in the United States. Changes in communications technology mean many purely foreign to foreign communications now pass through the United States and therefore require the government to get court orders to intercept them.

The Protect America Act, adopted in August, eased that restriction. Privacy and civil liberties advocates say it went too far, giving the government far more power to eavesdrop on American communications without court oversight.

WASHINGTON — Vice President Dick Cheney prodded Congress on Wednesday to extend and broaden an expiring surveillance law, saying "fighting the war on terror is a long-term enterprise" that shoul...
WASHINGTON — Vice President Dick Cheney prodded Congress on Wednesday to extend and broaden an expiring surveillance law, saying "fighting the war on terror is a long-term enterprise" that shoul...
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 01/23/2008
- syllepsis I'm a Fan of syllepsis 24 fans permalink

Cheney is a genius.
He will induce (willingly or not, who knows) Democrats to endorse blatantly unconstitutional, fascist legislation, knowing that by doing this he is inducing the Democrats to sign their own political death warrants.
For who will vote for them then?
I despise Reid for bringing this to a vote. I despise Rockefeller, despise Feinstein, Schumer, Clinton...­.
Say hello to President McCain in '08. The Democrats must want this. They want to make us despise them. They must hate us as much as they hate America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 01/23/2008
- Gordon I'm a Fan of Gordon 28 fans permalink
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I trust Vice President Richard B. Cheney.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 01/23/2008
- rextrek I'm a Fan of rextrek 34 fans permalink
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He's got some nerve..com­ing right out, and bluntly demanding more SPying powers on Americans.­..I mean, How Brazen is that? EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THIS MAN HAS DONE...CON­GRESS AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT?? Hey Cheney, GO CHENEY YOURSELF!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 01/23/2008
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Govt ordered to publish 2002 Iraq dossier
2 hours ago

LONDON (AFP) — The government has been ordered to publish an early draft of a controversial dossier on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction which helped justify the 2003 invasion, officials said Wednesday.

The Information Tribunal rejected an appeal by the government that releasing the document, prepared by the Foreign Office in 2002, would not be in the public interest.

Reports have suggested the early draft might include the first mention of a claim that former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein could launch a WMD strike within 45 minutes -- a suggestion which became the focus of a huge dispute after the war.
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http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5i59Xj6KRwkZgk7dsfvX655mvXrXg

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At least the rule of law hasn't been abandoned in the U.K.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 01/23/2008
- mommadona I'm a Fan of mommadona 160 fans permalink
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CHENEY WHO?

If they give this creep ANYTHING..­.they will have a bunch of irate citizens visiting them in their little Palace on the Hill with pitchforks and torches held high.

NO MORE OF THIS SHIT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 01/23/2008

There should be no, zero, not any restrictions on the interception, monitoring and recording of all foreign to foreign communications or data by the US government.

There should be no, zero, not any restrictions on the interception, monitoring and recording of all
foreign to US communications and data by the US government when US citizens are not the subject of investigation and are not subject to prosecution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 01/23/2008
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 85 fans permalink

Any bets that the Congressional Democrats will give it to him?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 01/23/2008
- Bobleblah1 I'm a Fan of Bobleblah1 21 fans permalink

What a disgrace.
You know I actually think that this spying no longer has anything to do with terrorism.
I think an investigation needs to be started in which their is full disclosure of exactly who is looking at the findings of this domestic spying.
I seriously suspect there is illegal corporate use of this information, as well as illegal political subterfuge being engaged in.
Who has been receiving access to this information on American citizens? Seriously there are real doubts about the intentions of those seeing and hearing this information.
What is this information actually being used for.
Its too large of a loss in civil liberty to not be given detailed accounts of what the information is actually getting spent on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 01/23/2008

So, does anyone jackasscheney will take over officially from chimpy after martial law and the finalization of the coup?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 01/23/2008
- SubparDude I'm a Fan of SubparDude 9 fans permalink

LOOK at those Dead Eyes!

"I'll be watching you . . ."
--The Police

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 01/23/2008
- donkee I'm a Fan of donkee 21 fans permalink

and

next year

begin tapping

the phones of all

republican operatives

treat them like the Bathists

no government for you!

smash the republican party until

it's small enough

to flush down

the toilet

heh...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 01/23/2008
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VogonsCryptolect (See profile | I'm a fan of VogonsCryptolect)
Every authority like this is open to abuse Groucho, you don't tie someone's hand because they MIGHT use them nefariously. If you can't trust your leaders with the authority then you need to select new leaders not remove a vital tool.

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This is the scariest/most ignorant post I've ever seen.

This is why we need the checks and balances inherent in our Constitution now more than ever.

While saying that authority is open for abuse, this asshole then advocates giving MORE authority to the abuser.

Then, when the administration HAS all this power, VogontheMoron thinks that you can just get rid of the guy.

At what point do we have an administration that has so much power that they cannot be removed? What is the point of no return? I don't think ANYONE can answer that question and so I say, go back to the Constitution and do NOT "fudge" it here or there. NOT for Georgie Porgie not for Hillary or Barack. Not for anyone.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Do not trust those who seek more power to use it wisely. Do not trust those whom you've given power to to reliquish it without a fight.

Be jealous with your rights as a human and as an American. Tell morons like Vogon and Cheney to shove their power play up their ass.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 01/23/2008

I'm all for more surveillance:

Bug Cheney's home, office and sleeping coffin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 01/23/2008
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Budget Deficit to Widen to $219 Billion, CBO Says (Update2)

By Brian Faler

Jan. 23 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. budget deficit will widen to at least $219 billion this year, the most since 2006, as a sagging economy reduces tax revenue, according to a Congressional Budget Office forecast.

The shortfall will be even larger if lawmakers approve a $150 billion economic stimulus plan, which wasn't included in the CBO's projection. The deficit projection also doesn't include all of the funding that may be provided for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which might add another $30 billion in spending, the agency said. The deficit last year was $163 billion.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aeE5.qjbk5U8&refer=home
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"War funding, which averaged about $93 billion a year from 2003 through 2005, rose to $120 billion in 2006 and $171 billion in 2007 and President George W. Bush has asked for $193 billion in 2008, the nonpartisan office wrote."

http://www.reuters.com/article/asiaCrisis/idUSN23650654
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To summarize, out of the $219 Billion projected budget deficit for 2008, Iraq war is responsible for $193 Billion.

Bush is borrowing from our kids and grandkids to fund this fraud in Iraq on behalf of U.S oil corporations and defense contractors.

Meanwhile, the number of terrorists is going up. So, he is also making things less safe for our kids.

I knew that freedom is not free, but this is getting ridiculous.

Also, I don't like the idea of our kids getting calls from the Chinese who would want there money back, with interest, of course, while al Qaeda sends them video tapes warning them not to step out of their houses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 01/23/2008
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