Feingold Rips Edwards Again, Urges Dem Candidates To Take On Rove

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First Posted: 01-25-08 09:46 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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As one of Congress' foremost progressive figures, Sen. Russ Feingold is a coveted endorsement for any of the Democratic presidential nominees. But if those seeking the White House are waiting for his call, they shouldn't hold their breath -- especially if they're John Edwards.

In an interview with the Huffington Post on Thursday, Feingold restated his hesitance to endorse either Sen. Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. Both, he said, would make great presidents. The same praise was not, however, heaped upon Feingold's former Senate colleague Edwards, whose political sincerity the Wisconsin Democrat questioned.

"I don't understand how somebody could vote, five or six critical votes, one way in the Senate and then make your campaign the opposite positions," Feingold said, expanding on comments he made a week ago to the Appleton (Wisconsin) Post-Crescent. "That doesn't give me confidence that if the person became president that they would continue the kind of policies that they are using in the Democratic primary. I'm more likely to believe what they did in the Senate."

Asked to explain what precisely he found problematic, Feingold offered that Edwards had "taken in" voters by switching positions on several key issues.

"You have to consider what the audience is, and obviously these are very popular positions to take when you are in a primary where you are trying to get the progressive vote. But wait a minute -- there were opportunities to vote against the bankruptcy bill, there was an opportunity to vote against the China [trade] deal. Those are the moments where you sort of find out where somebody is. So I think, people are being taken in a little bit that now he is taking these positions."

The Edwards campaign did not return a request for comment.

Feingold, who was briefly considered a possible presidential nominee, is known for a willingness to buck party trends and cast a progressive stripe. He forged landmark campaign finance legislation with Sen. John McCain, was the only senator to vote against the Patriot Act, and has been among the most vocal figures pressing to roll back the Bush administration's warrantless surveillance policies.

The latter issue seems poised to play a major role in the 2008 election, as former White House chief strategist Karl Rove insisted that a vote against FISA could haunt the Democratic candidates in a general election. Feingold fundamentally rejected the notion, arguing, in fact, that it was an electoral strength.

"The case is fairly straightforward to make to people," said Feingold. "We just want to make sure procedures are in place so that if you are doing absolutely nothing wrong, the government can't run around and hear everything you have to say and want to say to your kids and everything you put in an email. That's a winning argument... But if you hide and act like you are afraid of Karl Rove than they'll win the day. And unfortunately on these issues they seem to win the day almost every time by using this kind of fear."

So who does Feingold believe would be best equipped to handle this kind of exploitation of fear? He's not budging.

"There are all kinds of issues weighing on my mind," said the senator. "I'm trying to figure out who is most ready to be president in a very difficult world. I'm looking for somebody who can carry real change and a real feeling of unity in the country. I see some of these qualities in Senator Clinton and some in Senator Obama. And I simply don't feel that I am compelled to make a decision."

As one of Congress' foremost progressive figures, Sen. Russ Feingold is a coveted endorsement for any of the Democratic presidential nominees. But if those seeking the White House are waiting for his ...
As one of Congress' foremost progressive figures, Sen. Russ Feingold is a coveted endorsement for any of the Democratic presidential nominees. But if those seeking the White House are waiting for his ...
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- LeoMarvin I'm a Fan of LeoMarvin 35 fans permalink
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I realize that attacking the messenger (Feingold) when you don't like the message (Edwards' Senate history contradicts his ultra-liberal image) is standard practice in politics. But when people try to discredit Feingold with the ridiculous claims in some of the comments below, for example that Edwards is the only authentic liberal, while Obama, Hillary and Feingold are all just Beltway hacks, enough is enough. Russ Feingold didn't just make this stuff up. It's an historical fact that Edwards has a SIGNIFICANTLY more conservative Senate voting record than Feingold, Obama or Hillary. Look for yourself. Here are the ADA's liberal voting scores, first for Edwards and Feingold:

Edwards:
1999 -- 90%
2000 -- 85%
2001 -- 95%
2002 -- 70%
2003 -- 65%
2004 -- 60%
AVERAGE - 77.5%

Feingold:
1999 -- 100%
2000 -- 100%
2001 -- 95%
2002 -- 90%
2003 -- 95%
2004 -- 100%
AVERAGE - 96.7%

Here's Hillary's liberal score for the four years she overlapped with Edwards:
2001 -- 95%
2002 -- 95%
2003 -- 95%
2004 -- 95%
AVERAGE - 95%
(Edwards' 2001-2004 average - 72.5%)

And finally, Barak didn't overlap with Edwards at all, but here are the liberal voting percentages for his two full years that ADA scored:
2005 -- 100%
2006 -- 95%
AVERAGE - 97.5%

In other words, roughly one out of four times Hillary, Barak and Feingold voted liberal, Edwards didn't. That's reality, not wishful thinking or denial by personal attack. Deal with it.

I like Edwards, and I'd gladly vote for him if I didn't like Barak more. But just because I'm pissed off at some things Bill Clinton is saying about Barak doesn't mean I'd accuse Clinton of having been as bad a President as George Bush. It doesn't even mean some of the things Clinton's saying might not be true. Anyone who thinks his or her candidate is perfect is dreaming. So can we not try to fill the holes in their records with fantasies and fabrications? It makes us all look like morons.

http://www.adaction.org/votingrecords.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 01/26/2008

Feingold is awesome!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 01/26/2008
- peachfuzz I'm a Fan of peachfuzz 11 fans permalink
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No one needs anyone else to tell them who is best; do your own research:
http://www.issues2000.org/John_Edwards.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 01/25/2008
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 88 fans permalink

Let's see we have one Dem candidate making admiring remarks about Reagan and the good ideas of the Repugs( BO ) and another "best friends" with McCain( HC) yet Feingold's going after the one candidate who has kept a campaign alive on $ 100 donations and has steadfastly targeted economic injustice and corporate infiltration in govn't as the real problem. HMMMM

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 01/25/2008

Edwards was a one-time junior Senator as is Obama. Everyone knows that the first term of a Senator they vote the party line and what the Senate Majority (minority) leader of the party tells them to vote. No one deviates from that policy unless they have special issues with their own home state, or can take a risk and go against the party. Edwards was no different and voted as the majority of his party voted on these critical votes. Obama's policy has been to duck important votes and not show up, or to vote with the party.

Beside me, who else misses the experienced Democrat Joe Biden who spent his time talking about issues relevant to the American people in depth and non-stop. How much he educated all of us by being right on top of every world event.

Too bad Feingold is picking on Edwards when he could be cherry picking Obama for the same things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 01/25/2008
- mamamay I'm a Fan of mamamay 3 fans permalink

Has anyone looked into Hillary's experience record? It appears that she has not been successful in getting issues passed. Guessing at doing a right thing because others are doing it, is not adult like. A vote to go to war and a vote to continue funding a war that's not working appears to be following, not leading. She waffles a lot. She is on the Haas vs VA case pertaining to Vets benefits from Vietnam war, thats going on and on. Families are awaitin results of this case for health reasons, but she does not speak about this in her plans. What's up with this?It appears that She doesn't always stay on track either. Another thing, I am concerned about Bill turning up at 10 PM at some college in SC. to campaign last night..Per interview of Holly on MSNBC. Explain this...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 01/25/2008

Has anyone noticed how there is not one photo of Edwards on this page. I will vote for him if he runs with Kucinich.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 01/25/2008
- peachfuzz I'm a Fan of peachfuzz 11 fans permalink
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Edwards votes were similiar to the others, does that mean his platform must be like theirs? If his plan were not different than when he ran before or if his platform did not match current issues, I'd think him retarded or Republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 01/25/2008

Something seems very odd about this. Why would Feingold (who I previously admired for years, btw) come down on Edwards' changing his mind on past votes, yet overlook the votes of the other two?

Why no criticism of Hillary for her Iraq war vote, when she hasn't even had the integrity to apologize for it, or even acknowledge the error, as Edwards has. Why no criticism of Obama, for simply not showing up on the tough Kyl-Lieberman vote (for which Hillary also voted Yea)?

There's something that's missing here. Feingold should be consistent or stay out of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 01/25/2008
- cultkicker I'm a Fan of cultkicker 7 fans permalink

Clinton/Feingold, Obama/Feingold... I'll take it either way!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 01/25/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 592 fans permalink
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Edwards is done, why are you pissing in the wind now Russ ? You didn't run, you could have been a contender, was it too much trouble for you ? Christ, I'm really sick of politicians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 01/25/2008

As this is the SOLE Edwards thread on the Huff Post, I'll post this here even though it doesn't quite fit.

Clinton today made a call to seat the delegates from Michigan and Florida that the DNC has disbarred because those states broke the DNC's rules. Clinton is making this call because she is beginning to recognize that without those delegates she may not win enough. Trust me if it were Obama or Edwards who coming close, she would be calling for those delegates not to be seated.

Again, what I wrote earlier I bring up what I said in an earlier: the rules of any game matter. Clinton wants to change the rules of the game mid-stream because it's to her advantage and only her advantage. Without rich delegate counts from Michigan and Florida, no one may reach that magic number of 2,025 delegates.

Which brings to Edwards, who I am supporting. The strategy seems to be now to prevent the others from winning outright and given their mutual and growing hatred (Obama and Clinton), Edwards be positioned to be the compromise candidate. The kingmaker theory is pretty much nonsense because Edwards is not being interested in being the number two slot, only number one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 01/25/2008
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 88 fans permalink

Interesting that Mr. Election Ethics Feingold is condemning the one candidate not taking corporate cash , but has not spoken out about the MSM blackout of Kucinich and Edwards and utters not a word on similiar behavior of BO & Hil. Rezco is okay, Hsu is okay but changing your mind about past votes and addressing those mistakes is not!?

I wish Bush would be as thoughtful and honest about his errors as John Edwards has been.That is the mark of a man capable of learning from experience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 01/25/2008
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Independance Party of New York... well, if all else fails, I'll join them, but I need to learn more about them.

http://www.independencepartyny.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 01/25/2008
- djonan I'm a Fan of djonan 4 fans permalink
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All this bitchin' for nothing. Just ask yourselves...does Feingold have a point? If the answer is yes then shut up. If you have not heard Edwards say he regrets vote after vote then you are following your own version of the Dear Leader...and we know how dangerous that game is.

Feingold is a good guy, but he's one out of how many? Call Feinstein, Rockafeller, Lieberman (ask for ANY hearings!), Ben Nelson, etc. and let them know how you really feel. They WILL back down on this telecom immunity deal.

Don't get sidetracked by your weird anger issues. Politics is a sport with a lot of gamesmanship. Let's all take a deep breath and get to work at electing a Democrat (Clinton, Edwards OR Obama) in '08.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 01/25/2008
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