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Pandering To Cubans, Giuliani Gets His Facts Wrong

January 25, 2008 12:13 AM


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Having won nary a primary and trailing in the polls, Rudy Giuliani needs all the help he can get to pull out a win in the upcoming Florida election.

But for someone whose electoral life depends on the Sunshine State, the former New York City mayor didn't exactly do his homework. During Thursday's debate, Giuliani was asked about the so called "wet foot, dry foot" policy, which states that exiles from Cuba (but not North Korea, Iran, etc.) can remain in America as long as they make contact with U.S. soil (if they are caught at sea, they are returned home).

Giuliani said he supported the policy, specifically because it's been law for so long. "We've had this exception for 40 years," he claimed. "I think it's fair given the history of Castro."

The only problem? The policy is less than 15 years old. It was introduced in 1995 as an amendment to the Cuban Adjustment Act of 1966 by the Clinton administration (Giuliani and the Clintons do agree on policy!). It was established after President Clinton reached an agreement with the Cuban government to stop admitting people found at sea. Here's the transcript:

Tim Russert: Mayor Giuliani, I'd like to ask a follow-up. I think many Americans would be surprised by our policy of wet foot dry foot. If a Cuban is caught at sea, he or she is sent back. If one foot touches American land, they're allowed to stay here. Why should a Cuban be allowed to stay here but not a Mexican, not a Guatemalan, not a Venezuelan feeling Hugo Chavez, someone fleeing North Korea or Iran? Why a special policy for Cubans?


Rudy Giuliani: This was developed in the 1960s. Because the longest dictatorship I believe in the modern world is the one of Fidel Castro. The presumption is that if you're fleeing Fidel Castro given decades and decades of murder, oppression, including most recently the way he cracked down on the Canbio group, Brothers to the Rescue, there's a presumption in the immigration law that if you're fleeing Castro, you're fleeing political persecution. In every other situation you have to prove it. If you can prove you're fleeing political persecution, you'll be accepted. We've had this exception for 40 years. I think it's fair given the history of Castro. And he is the longest-standing dictator I believe in the world.

Giuliani, it should be noted, is desperately seeking the support of the Cuban-American voting bloc in an effort to stave off political extermination. A few weeks ago, the thrice-married former mayor visited the predominantly Cuban El Rey Jesus Church in Hialeah and asked the congregation for its prayers instead of votes. He also quoted scripture.


 
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To all of you folks around the country who support Giuliani for President, I suggest you research his record very closely. As Mayor of NY he became one of the most divisive and vindictive people to ever hold that office. It seemed that anyone who disagreed with his policy found themselves being either ousted or investigated by Giuliani's hit men. The majority of his decisions were over ruled by the courts. His close association with Bernard Kerick should be enough to keep him out of the White House. His consulting business made million as a result of him using 9/11 as his cause celeb. The only honest thing he did was to let his comb-over hairdo take its natural
course. I lived in New York for sixty six years so I feel that I have my facts right.
If the Hispanic population in Florida think they have a friend and ally in Rudy, Ya better think again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 01/25/2008
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A better question would have been "Should Mexican illegal enterants be treated the same as Cuban illegals?" That way rootie would have had to make a choice of which illegals to support .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 01/25/2008
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Stick a Fork in Him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 01/25/2008
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Russert was asking why Cuban refugees are treated differently from refugees from other countries.

Giuliani answered correctly. The policy was made in the 60s that Cubans who reach the US would be uniquely presumed to be political refugees.

Wet foot/dry foot is a modification of the Cuban policy, and has nothing to do with how Cubans are treated as compared to Mexicans, North Koreans, etc. The hundreds of Mexicans who arrive on US soil (dry foot) daily are not considered political refugees.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 01/25/2008
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Rudy is obviously NOT depending on any historians to get his facts straight - and he doesn't seem smart enough to research the facts. Not a great combination for someone looking to be Prez.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 01/25/2008

Facts I have always thought meant something supportive of the truth, guess I got my facts wrong. But Rudi has not really ever paid much attention to facts he just spews something and hopes the hearing with be as blindly believing as the speaker. He believes what he says and expects that is has to be the truth he's speakiing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 01/25/2008

Pardon me, I meant there should be precision in the question.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 01/25/2008

The problem is not with Rudy's answer it's with Russert's question. Wet/Dry Foot was implemented in the 90s. But the Cuban Adjustment Act that treats Cuban political refugees differently than economic migrants from other countries HAS been around since the 60s. It's not the Wet/Dry foot policy that creates the difference between Cubans and Mexicans, Guatemalans et al, it's the underlying Cuban Adjustment Act. If you want precision in the answer then there should be precision in the answer.

Nice try though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 01/25/2008

Like most prosecutors, Fruity Rudy hears one or two facts and adds his own prejudices and misunderstanding to create an alternate reality. Prisons are full of innocent men and women because of people like Rudy, and the way they see the world.
He has boundless faith in his understanding of the world, without bothering to find out the whole story about anything. This infantile certainty that every one of his snap judgments is correct has kept him from ever considering, or respecting, the opinions and rights of others. It's responsible for the unashamed, and unrestrained, viciousness he's shown towards anyone who dares to disagree with him. He makes Nixon look like a real quaker.
He is one of the vilest human beings ever to hold the office of Mayor of New York City; and considering our history, that's quite an accomplishment (or an anti-accomplishment, actually).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 AM on 01/25/2008
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