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Clinton Obama State of the Union

No Chitchat Between Clinton and Obama

AP   |  LAURIE KELLMAN   |   January 28, 2008 at 10:57 PM


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Update: Check out the pic-by-pic replay here.

Update: Obama explained today his alleged snub of fellow candidate Hillary Clinton, saying he was "surprised" to hear about the coverage this morning:

"I was turning away because Claire [McCaskill] asked me a question, as Senator Kennedy was reaching for her [Clinton]... And senator Clinton and I have had very cordial relations on the floor and off the floor; I waved at her as we were coming into the Senate chamber before we walked over. I think there's a lot more tea leaf reading going on here than I think people are suggesting."

However, this explanation seemed to contradict another statement offered by senior Obama adviser David Axelrod:

AXELROD: this was obviously an awkward day from that standpoint, and I don't think he wanted to stand there while Senator Kennedy was greeting Senator Clinton and I think that was an appropriate sentiment. Unfortunately, the camera caught it in a different way, and so it got interpreted that way and that's the kind of environment we're in right now. It's a very competitive race, so every little thing is going to be interpreted in that way- but it was really, I think, a matter of letting Senator Kennedy have his own conversation, his own greeting with Senator Clinton without him hovering over them.
BRZEZINSKI: I, I guess. I mean, I guess the Clinton campaign may see it as a snub. We've been getting a few e-mails and-

SCARBOROUGH: you're right. and then it was also interesting afterwards, David --

AXELROD: -in this environment, every single thing can be inflated and interpreted and will in a political -- in a hyperpolitical light. But- it is what I suggested. I think it's understandable that he would not want to stand there with Senator Kennedy as if he were-- lording it over her. I, I, I you know, I understand that instinct.


WASHINGTON — So close, yet so far away _ and so bitter.

Rival Democrats Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama came within a foot of each other just before President Bush's State of the Union speech Monday night and managed not to acknowledge each other, and certainly not touch.

Clinton, clad in scarlet, crossed the aisle between their seats on the House floor. Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, the Democratic icon who had endorsed Obama earlier in the day over Clinton, reached out his hand when she came close.

She took it; they shook. Meanwhile, Obama, dressed in a dark suit, had turned away.

The rivals then retreated to their seats, only the aisle and four senators between them.

It was the latest chapter in the increasingly nasty fight between the two leading candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination and capped a dramatic day.

Hours earlier, Obama received the endorsements of Kennedy and Caroline Kennedy, the brother and daughter, respectively, of President John F. Kennedy. They were joined by Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., the senator's son.

The only Republican senator still running, John McCain of Arizona, skipped the address to campaign in Florida.

(This version CORRECTS the sequence of handshake.)


 
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For all of you who are relying on photos to "debunk" the snub, please look at actual tape of the exchange (in YouTube format), and then judge.

http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/30/the-snub/

It sure as hell looked to me as though he was deliberately turning away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 01/30/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

Over 2500 posts on a story that mimics a Brittany Spears story?

Doesn't that say it all?

In the meantime, those of us who are serious get back to business of electing a president.

And folks, it's not about this crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 01/30/2008
- biglover I'm a Fan of biglover 43 fans permalink

To all you dems in this comment section, stop acting like HRC is the enemy. I can't imagine that those of you who hate her so much, would not be willing to support her if she is indeed our nominee. Believe me, winning and taking back the People's house should be our goal, not kicking the shit out of our own. I am an Obama supporter now, but if he doesn't win, I will support her proudly.Get with the program folks or you just might end up with another 8 years of more Iraq and more war. McCain is done. He's a has been and an old has been

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 01/30/2008
- kin I'm a Fan of kin permalink

Oh, for goodness sake.
Could we act any more like immature Middle School kids?

I am an Edwards supporter. I'm looking for another candidate. Edwards passionately articulated ISSUES that are important to me and to our country.

This crap is just that, crap.
Can we all grow up and address the issues? Please?
I don't give a flying fig whether Hillary's feelings are hurt. She used that line once. Once is all it deserves. My wallet and my health are hurting. What do the candidates have to say about the ISSUES?

grow up
just grow up
commentators
candidates
voters
grow up and address the ISSUES

this whole discussion gives me the creeps
This whole thing stinks like Karl Rove.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 01/30/2008

Dose DodoModo have a man yet? Why would anyone listen to a woman who whined public that she couldn't get a man? Dang, what a fool. Apparently Prince Obama is showing that he was actually raised by a pack of wolves. Is the man such a churlish, childish idiot that he doesn't even know the basics of politics? Obviously. Even that fool wife of his can't seem to teach the man some manners. Now, the woman who can't get a man is trying to signal him that he needs to learn some, well, la dee freakin' da! Please, don't do me any favors and anoint the man who would be churl.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 01/30/2008
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First of all this is clearly the MSM looking for conflict to blow up where there are none. The right set of pictures clearly shows Senator Obama engaged in conversation with Senator McCaskill behind him at the moment that Senator Kennedy is extending his hand to Hillary. But as usual she couldn't help but try to slickly trying to make it an issue. How many times has Senator Obama responded to the press on a question about what Hillary meant by a comment that "if she said that was not what she meant then I accept that". Instead of a similar answer accepting Senator Obama's denial that it was a snub she dives for the sleaze by stating 'Well, I reached my hand out in friendship and unity and my hand is still reaching out,' she said, lapsing back into the dissed-woman mode. 'And I look forward to shaking his hand sometime soon.'" What a complete asshole by any gender, race or personal sexual preference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 01/30/2008
- rusdr61 I'm a Fan of rusdr61 6 fans permalink
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Clinton/Obama 2008
It is the only way to win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 01/30/2008

2274 Comments on this sh it already! Man what a bunch of little bickering children. OVER A HANDSHAKE? You all need to get lives!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 01/30/2008
- jhamm1 I'm a Fan of jhamm1 38 fans permalink

Assuming Obama had in fact snubbed her, I wouldn't blame him. After all, this isn't grade school. You can't bully somebody and expect a handshake to decree that "everything's cool".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 01/30/2008
- brueso I'm a Fan of brueso 4 fans permalink

it is utterly pathetic that she would pretend she was snubbed. It's very easy- Obama said that he waved to her earlier that evening. If that's a lie, then she should say that. But instead, she's content to wrap the "poor pitiful me" shawl around her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 01/30/2008

WHO WOULD WANT TO SHAKE THE OLD BITTYS HAND, WHO KNOWS WHERE THAT HAND HAD BEEN IN THE BACK SEAT OF THE CAR??????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 01/30/2008

This is such a non-story.

For those with short-term memory loss, at the previous year's State of the Union, Hillary sat one row in front of Obama and turned this way and that to greet people around her, but NEVER turned back to greet Obama.

Another story reported how shortly after he had announced his candidacy, he spoke to her personally in the halls, and she just walked on by. This was over a year ago.

That, too, was a non-story.

Only difference with this one is that Hillary seems to play the victim well, and hope for any hypersensitive folks who might have perceived a snub.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 01/30/2008

If only Maureen Dowd could put this all behind her. What a waste of space at the Times...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 01/30/2008

The fact that we are even discussing this means that the media has won and intellegence lost! Once again the media creates another story, while real issues die at the alter of capitolistic news! anyone wanna watch the twighlight zone with me?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 01/30/2008
- Seafarer61 I'm a Fan of Seafarer61 9 fans permalink

The camera takes what it sees. No more, no less.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 01/30/2008
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