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Mukasey Still Refuses To Say If Waterboarding Is Illegal

LARA JAKES JORDAN   01/29/08 11:07 PM ET   AP

Mukasey Waterboarding

WASHINGTON — Attorney General Michael Mukasey said Tuesday he will refuse to publicly say whether the interrogation tactic known as waterboarding is illegal, digging in against critics who want the Bush administration to define it as torture.

In a letter to Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy, Mukasey said he has finished a review of Justice Department memos about the CIA's current methods of interrogating terror suspects and finds them to be lawful. He said waterboarding currently is not used by the spy agency.

Since waterboarding is not part of what Mukasey described as a "limited set of methods" used by interrogators now, the attorney general said he would not rule on whether it is illegal.

"I understand that you and some other members of the (Judiciary) Committee may feel that I should go further in my review, and answer questions concerning the legality of waterboarding under current law," Mukasey wrote in his three-page letter to Leahy, D-Vt. "I understand the strong interest in this question, but I do not think it would be responsible for me, as attorney general, to provide an answer."

The attorney general added: "If this were an easy question, I would not be reluctant to offer my views on this subject. But, with respect, I believe it is not an easy question. There are some circumstances where current law would appear clearly to prohibit the use of waterboarding. Other circumstances would present a far closer question."

The letter does not elaborate on what the other circumstances are.

Mukasey's letter was sent on the eve of his appearance at a Justice Department oversight hearing chaired by Leahy. It is Mukasey's first appearance before the committee since he took office Nov. 9.

In a terse statement released minutes after Mukasey's letter surfaced, Leahy called the attorney general's position a "last minute response" that merely parrots the Bush administration's longtime dodge on whether waterboarding is legal.

"It does not, however, answer the critical questions we have been asking about its legality," Leahy said in the statement. "Attorney General Mukasey knows that this will not end the matter and expects to be asked serious questions at the hearing tomorrow."

Waterboarding is an interrogation tactic that involves strapping down a person and pouring water over his cloth-covered face to create the sensation of drowning. The practice was banned by the CIA and the Pentagon in 2006.

Mukasey wrote that he would not publicly conclude that waterboarding is illegal because doing so could reveal too many "limits and contours" about the highly classified interrogation program to terrorists or other adversaries. He also noted that some senators resisted specifically banning waterboarding in 2006, when Congress passed the Military Commissions Act.

Congress has prohibited cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of terror suspects. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., a key sponsor of the 2006 bill, has said he was personally assured by administration officials that waterboarding was prohibited under the new law.

The issue of waterboarding briefly snarled Mukasey's confirmation hearings by the same Senate committee last October. At the time, Mukasey refused to define waterboarding as torture because he was unfamiliar with the classified Justice Department memos describing the process and legal arguments surrounding it.

He promised then, however, to review the memos if confirmed and return an answer to the Senate Judiciary Committee. Tuesday's letter represents that response.

Waterboarding also is at the heart of a Justice Department criminal investigation over whether the CIA illegally or otherwise improperly destroyed videotapes in 2005 of two terror suspects being interrogated. The tapes showed harsh interrogations, including possible waterboarding, of suspected terrorists Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri in 2002, when both suspects were held in secret CIA prisons overseas. They were destroyed as intelligence officials debated whether waterboarding should be declared illegal.

Critics want the Justice Department to join other nations and outlaw waterboarding as illegal. But U.S. intelligence officials fear that doing so could make government interrogators _ including those from the CIA _ vulnerable to retroactive criminal charges or civil lawsuits.

Ten senators demanded last week that Mukasey immediately clarify his stand on waterboarding. His non-answer Tuesday infuriated Democrats, who said he appeared unable to address what they called a simple legal question.

Mukasey "seems constitutionally incapable of rendering judgment on a simple and straightforward legal question," said Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., in a statement.

But the attorney general said the matter was far too complicated to easily resolve.

"Reasonable people can disagree, and have disagreed, about these matters," Mukasey wrote Tuesday. "It is precisely because the issue is so important, and the questions so difficult, that I, as the attorney general, should not provide answers absent a set of circumstances that call for those answers. Those circumstances do not present themselves today, and may never prevent themselves in the future."

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09:42 PM on 01/30/2008
Say what you want but Mukasey's zionist friends in the Israeli Govt.are very,very proud of him!
06:20 PM on 01/30/2008
You can thank the Dems for this, you know who I am talking about. I bet you can thank AIPAC too.
05:06 PM on 01/30/2008
Now we know why he has George Orwell's picture up in his office.
FUCK HIM AND THE COWBOY HE RODE IN ON
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05:04 PM on 01/30/2008
Here's an article of interest.

http://www.commondreams.org/news2008/0130-07.htm
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04:09 PM on 01/30/2008
Just another disgusting buffoon in a gallery of incompetent, revolting rightwinger vermin indifferent to responsibility and personal integrity, while braying patriotic themes and dedication to Christian values.
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03:26 PM on 01/30/2008
I am sick of this debate over whether the law specifically outlaws waterboarding. The law doesn't have to specify what you can't do when interrogating prisoners - that list is infinite, the law specifically identifies the acceptable interrogation techniques.

Once you put in what can't be done, then you must list everything that can't be done and as I wrote that is infinite.

You can't waterboard
You can't cut off their fingers or toes
You can't use electrodes on their testicles
You can't use sticks, rocks, bricks or whips to hit them
You can't use bamboo chutes on their fingernails
You can't deny them food or sleep
You can't hang them by their feet
You can't blind them
You can't shoot them
You can't cut them
You can't shove dog food up their asses
You can't make them watch Britney Spears videos
You can't make them listen to Bush speak
You can't make them sleep on a bed of nails
You can't make them put their heels behind their heads


I could go on....
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02:11 PM on 01/30/2008
Now...
There's a lesson here.

Mukasey KNOWS for a FACT that Dick Cheney DOES torture. He DOES spy on Americans. He DOES think that the resident is above the law, and he DOES KNOW that he is too.

Mukasey also knows that the Congress can't or won't do a damn thing except breath noisily at him.

"Oversight." These people's idea of oversight is being allowed to live in a pretty cage, hung from a tall tower, on a big hill.
01:36 PM on 01/30/2008
These people are as evil as Saddam and more sophisticated.
01:35 PM on 01/30/2008
Well there is nothing in the 1o commandments about water boarding.

Is there?
01:33 PM on 01/30/2008
Wow! Another spotlight on the Repugs 'Christian' values. They are absolutely disgusting and astonishing in their hypocracy

In my opinion the overarching message of Christ (thus Christianity) is to do onto others... The Christo-Fascists are exposing the fundamental moral bankruptcy of their politics and their souls. And may God have mercy, for they need more than most.
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12:38 PM on 01/30/2008
Maybe if they waterboarded him he'd give us an answer.
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12:30 PM on 01/30/2008
Mukasey has this "why am I having to be bothered with these idiots questions, don't they know I'm protected by the anointed one to protect him?" look on his face.

It's simply beyond the pale.
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12:24 PM on 01/30/2008
I'm watching this sycophant as I write and it is simply beyond any reasonable person to be able to not see that this said excuse of a humane being is nothing but a shill for the on-going criminal enterprise we otherwise call our government.

Listening him tap-dance around simple questions is painful and angering. He's Gonzales on steroids. Since he's been in he's continued the very same cover-up polices bush and company need to keep from being brought to justice.

Equally disturbing is watching those that question him, nail him, and DO NOTHING to hold him accountable. "Oh, okay, you are nothing more than a "mob-lawyer", that's nice. Thanks for coming in and talking to us. Bye for now, You can go back to doing what you do."
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12:12 PM on 01/30/2008
Heres a question that needs to be asked.

You have refused to state whether waterboarding is torture, and refused to confirm if it has been used. If it were illegal, and if it has been used, would it not be your duty as AG to investigate and prosecute those who used it? Therefore since you are not prosecuting anyone, would it be reasonable to conclude that either you do not believe it is illegal, or you know it has not been used, or you are currently derelict in your duty, or worst of all you are too incompetent to hold the office of AG?
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12:05 PM on 01/30/2008
I say let's settle it once and for all. Dick Cheney and George Bush should both be brought before Congress in orange jumpsuits (fitting) then they should be waterboarded before Congress and live television. If they enjoy it and don't feel like they are drowning and say it was great! then that will settle it and we will say it's not torture! This is the only apparent way to resolve what's already been done to many many people in GW AND DICK'S name.