Obama Says Clinton Would Be a Step Back

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NEDRA PICKLER and MIKE GLOVER | January 30, 2008 11:13 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill, center, talks with supporters at a "Stand for Change" rally at Veterans Memorial Coliseum Wednesday, Jan. 30, 2008, in Phoenix, Ariz. Obama is flanked by Arizona's Democratic Governor Janet Napolitano, left, and Caroline Kennedy, both recently endorsed the candidate. (Photo/Ross D. Franklin)

DENVER — Democratic Sen. Barack Obama said Wednesday a Hillary Rodham Clinton presidency would be a step back to the past, turning her husband's image of a bridge to the future against her. The former first lady decried the tenor of his comments in an interview with The Associated Press.

"I know it is tempting _ after another presidency by a man named George Bush _ to simply turn back the clock, and to build a bridge back to the 20th century," the Illinois senator said in Denver.

"... It's not enough to say you'll be ready from Day One _ you have to be right from Day One," he added in unmistakable criticisms of Clinton, who often claims she's better prepared to govern, and her husband, who pledged during his own presidency to build a bridge to the 21st century.

Within hours, Hillary Clinton pushed back in an interview with the AP _ and got in her own dig.

"That certainly sounds audacious, but not hopeful," said Clinton, in a play on the title of Obama's book, "The Audacity of Hope." "It's not hopeful and it's not what we should be talking about in this campaign," said Clinton, suggesting Obama was abandoning the core of his campaign.

"I would certainly, through you, hope we could get back to talking about the issues, drawing the contrasts that are based in fact that have a connection to the American people," Clinton said.

In his speech, Obama depicted Clinton as a calculating, poll-tested divisive figure who will only inspire greater partisan divisions as she sides with Republicans on issues such as trade, the role of lobbyists in politics and national security. At the same time, he elevated McCain, fresh off victory in Florida's crucial primary, as the likely Republican nominee.

In the AP interview, Clinton vowed to take the high road and warned that voters in the mega-primaries next week expect that.

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"I'm going to continue to talk to people about what we need to do in our country to try to lift people up, to keep focused on the future to be very specific about what I want to do as president because I want to be held accountable," she said.

Obama drew more than 10,000 people for his speech at the University of Denver. They packed a hockey arena and crammed into two overflow rooms and still were lined up outside to get in. Colorado is a caucus state, one of 22 to hold nominating contests Tuesday, and is one of a handful of states where the Obama campaign is predicting victory. Clinton has the advantage in several others, while several are still up for grabs.

"Democrats will win in November and build a majority in Congress not by nominating a candidate who will unite the other party against us, but by choosing one who can unite this country around a movement for change," Obama said, speaking as rival John Edwards was pulling out of the race in New Orleans, leaving a Clinton-Obama fight for the Democratic nomination.

"It is time for new leadership that understands the way to win a debate with John McCain or any Republican who is nominated is not by nominating someone who agreed with him on voting for the war in Iraq or who agreed with him in voting to give George Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iran, who agrees with him in embracing the Bush-Cheney policy of not talking to leaders we don't like, who actually differed with him by arguing for exceptions for torture before changing positions when the politics of the moment changed," Obama said.

"We need to offer the American people a clear contrast on national security, and when I am the nominee of the Democratic Party, that is exactly what I will do," he said.

The two rivals fought hard prior to the South Carolina primary, but the tenor has eased a bit since then.

"I've been trying to keep this on a level where the contrasts and comparisons are certainly fair, this is an election after all," said Clinton. "I've been trying very hard to set the right tone, to be focused on bringing the party together, bringing the country together but around specific goals."

Clinton spent her day in Little Rock, Ark., before heading to Atlanta for speeches to the Southern Baptist Convention and a major Democratic fundraiser. She took a colorful diversion on the trip to Atlanta, heading down the aisle of her campaign plane serving peach cobbler to reporters and staffers.

"I love anything peach," Clinton said.

Obama said he understands voters might feel some comfort at the idea of returning to another President Clinton after eight years of Bush. But he cautioned voters not to buy the argument that Clinton's experience is what the country needs.

"It is about the past versus the future," he said. "And when I am the nominee, the Republicans won't be able to make this election about the past.

"If you choose change, you will have a nominee who doesn't just tell people what they want to hear," Obama told them. "Poll-tested positions, calculated answers might be how Washington confronts challenges, but it's not how you overcome those challenges; it's not how you inspire our nation to come together behind a common purpose, and it's not what America needs right now. You need a candidate who will tell you the truth."

Later Wednesday, Obama gave a 10-minute talk by live broadcast to a joint meeting in Atlanta of four historically black Baptist denominations, where Clinton appeared later. These groups produced some of the most prominent civil rights leaders, including the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., whom Obama quoted.

"Pastors are pushing this movement forward," Obama said of his campaign, "and I need each and every one of you in this fight."

He asked the audience to imagine what it would mean for the country to see him with his hand on the Bible, taking the presidential oath of office.

"Our children will look at themselves differently and their possibilities differently. They'll look at each other differently," he said.

Clinton addressed the same group with a theme that aides described as a call for togetherness they contrasted with Obama's criticism. "Let us consider how we may spur one another to love and good deeds," Clinton said. She ended the day with a speech to a rowdy fundraising dinner.

"This has been a vigorous campaign," she said. "Whatever differences we have, they pale with the differences we have with Republicans."

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Associated Press Writer Mike Glover reported from Atlanta.

DENVER — Democratic Sen. Barack Obama said Wednesday a Hillary Rodham Clinton presidency would be a step back to the past, turning her husband's image of a bridge to the future against her. The ...
DENVER — Democratic Sen. Barack Obama said Wednesday a Hillary Rodham Clinton presidency would be a step back to the past, turning her husband's image of a bridge to the future against her. The ...
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- BeyondKen I'm a Fan of BeyondKen 4 fans permalink
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Do not forget that Obama has never won an election that his opponent didn't drop out of.

He was elected to the U.S. Senate after his opponent Jack Ryan was forced out because of unproven rumors of a sex scandal.

He was elected an Illinois State Senator after paying lawyers to force all other opponents off the ballot.

According to David Jackson in the Chicago Tribune:

“A close examination of Obama's first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career: The man now running for president on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. His overwhelming legal onslaught signaled his impatience to gain office, even if that meant elbowing aside an elder stateswoman like Palmer.”

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 01/30/2008
- suntzu I'm a Fan of suntzu 16 fans permalink
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On Jan. 20, the Gallup Poll (national preference) showed Clinton at 48% and Obama at 28%. The latest poll (today) shows Clinton at 42% and Obama at 36%, with Clinton trending down since South Carolina and Obama trending up. So Obama went from a 20-point gap to a 6-point gap in less than a month. With the Florida win (what she won is not clear) can Hillary make a comeback? She may, but to lose 14% in the space of a few weeks shows deep structural flaws that can hardly be fixed by the win in Florida. Clinton goes into Super Tuesday the clear favorite, but trending downward while Obama is trending upward.

So at this point is it better to be 6-points ahead and losing momentum, or 6 points behind while gaining momentum?

Don't yell at me, Clinton supporters, I am just quoting the Gallup Poll. Look it up yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 01/30/2008
- tkk I'm a Fan of tkk permalink

So typical of Obama, down in the dirt again. Now let's hear him whine that she attacked him when she all did was quote a passage from his own book.

So easy to fling criticisms and distortions, so hard, for Barack Obama, to talk about plans, policies and ideas. What a creepy guy.

If he is in the WH, the real president will be Old Guard Ted Kennedy. That's BOs "change."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 01/30/2008
- Zhonni I'm a Fan of Zhonni 15 fans permalink
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Is this speculation on the part of the Clinton camp or what? Why in the world will Obama's camp tell everybody they are going to go after Sen. Clinton? Is like playing a game and giving your game plan to an opponent.

I don't think Obama should attack in anyway. He should talk about why his healthcare is better and has a chance of being passed. No one likes to be forced to buy anything.

He should talk about McCain's assertions that we would have more wars. He should say that he is going to bring the troops home so we can use that money to fix our problems here at home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 01/30/2008
- JonathanDS I'm a Fan of JonathanDS 3 fans permalink
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Now is not the kind of time when one generally seeks party unity, but I think Clinton and Obama should stop attacking each other, real fast. It feels more and more like every attack they make against each other improves McCain's chances of defeating whichever one he goes against (assuming McCain will be the Republican nominee, a likelihood with Guliani now out of the race). It may be self-sacrificing for them, and it may seem like they can at least attack each other for being too McCain-like, but we're now in this very precarious place, where undecided people are trying to wrap their minds around who would seem the most presidential. The issues are beginning to take a backseat to this - how else would McCain be rallying support with the kinds of positions he's taking?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 01/30/2008
- freespeach I'm a Fan of freespeach 59 fans permalink

How appropriate!

Two fake candidates, in a fake debate, in the land of makebelieve.

Both of these two will keep the "war" or "the crime of the century" going in Iraq until at least 2013.

It takes time to thoroughly destroy a sovereign nation, and loot their resources (oil) so please be patient with these two liars.

Observing the paid hacks supporting these two corporate servants wage their war of words against each other here would be comical, if the consequences were not so tragic.

All of the slander of one camp by the other is more or less true. Bottom line, they are BOTH dishonest, and if you think you were sold out or let down by Pelosi......fasten your seat belts. These two will make Pelosi look like Lincoln.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 01/30/2008
- myname I'm a Fan of myname 2 fans permalink

I have let CNN know that the track record of Blitzer is 0 for 2 for conducting a good and disciplined democratic debate making it a 'Jerry Springer Show' version of a debate. I suggested they use John King who is brilliant and doesn't seem to show that he has any hidden agenda. Of course, they have censored my comment. If you agree with me I want you to contact CNN or write on their blog about this issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 01/30/2008
- nihilon x I'm a Fan of nihilon x 39 fans permalink

If she stands on experience, why won't Hillary release her records to the public?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 01/30/2008
- TerryFL I'm a Fan of TerryFL 11 fans permalink

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Here are some "talking points" that Mrs. Clinton will not be advertising:


1. She refused to read the NIE before voting with Bush/Cheney to authorize the Iraq War.

2. She voted against the Levin Amendment, which would have required more diplomacy before launching said attack.

3. She continued to support Rumsfeld's conduct of the war until opinion polls told her she was on the wrong side of the issue.

4. She wants permanent US bases in Iraq.

5. She supported the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment which authorizes attacking Iran.

6. She has accepted over 800K from health insurance lobbyists.

7. She sided with the corporate banking interests against citizens by voting for the "Bankrupcy Bill".

8. She accepted over 100k in contributions from the wife of Mark Rich, whom Bill Clinton pardoned on his last day in office.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 01/30/2008

And You Funded the program

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 01/30/2008

And we continually rip Obama 'a new one' in HIS voting to continually fund Bush's war, like Hillary does! This Rezko funny-money candidate isn't fooling ANYBODY.

LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 01/30/2008

So will the media scream about how Obama is distorting Hillary's record? Anything Obama says is taken as fact, even when it is a lie.
Obama has suppported Bush on every Iraq vote.

Then he did not have the balls to show up and vote on the Iran resolution. It is just as if he voted "Present" as he always does.

But then he thinks it is OK to criticize Hillary for her vote.
Hillary could have done the easy thing and skipped the vote as Obama did or just voted against it.
But she did the resarch and voted her conscience.
But no one in the media will point out what a coward Obama is.
Cause Obama is supposed to be crowned King and we must all bow down to him.
This is how tyrants get in office. No one is alowed to talk about them unless it is in a swoon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 01/30/2008

I love that line..."You have to be RIGHT on Day One.." I wish he'd saved that for the debate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 01/30/2008

1. Iraq - The Iraq Resolution was NOT a vote for war, and war was a last resort after inspections. Bush failed to follow the guidelines of the resolution. Obama should not be attacking the senators for their vote, but focusing on impeaching Bush and criticizing him for lying to the country and congress.

2. Obama not being a member of the senate at the time of the vote was not under the same pressure from constituents, members of the senate, the POTUS saying, "Either you are with us, or the terrorists", and included in the briefings from the CIA when presented (cherry picked) intelligence. I think his claim that he would not have voted like the other 77% is suspect at minimum.

3. In an interview with the editorial board of the Chicago Tribune published September 26, Democratic Senate candidate Barack Obama said he would favor the use of “surgical” missile strikes against Iran if it failed to bow to Washington’s demand that it eliminate its nuclear energy program. Obama also said that, in the event of a coup that removed the Musharraf regime in Pakistan, the US should attack that nation’s nuclear arsenal. (This is the same stance congress took on Iraq.)
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/oct2004/obam-o01.shtml

4. Obama skipped the Iran vote. Do you have the right to criticize when you choose to not participate?

5. Hillary does not refuse to talk with leaders "we don't like". Now he is sounding like a second grader. Hillary, as we all saw in the debate, said she would not be willing to meet with leaders of roque nations within her first year of office, without conditions. Obama said he would. Clinton called him naive and said it opens you up to being used.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 01/30/2008
- plutorage I'm a Fan of plutorage 12 fans permalink

A Clinton/McCain race will sink the future of a generation of Americans in a s.....hole in the mid east.

It is incomprehensible to me that we would want to continue with this. Bush and his compliant congress just approved a multi year aid package to the richest country on earth (Israel). Why?? When he was running in 04, the Republicans said that aid to Israel was expiring in just a few years so it was not an issue. Then with 1 year left in his terms and the aid expiring he renews it for 8 years. This way when Hilary comes into office she says, oh that was bush's committment but it is expiring in so many years so it is not an issue. This constant humping of the American people by the war machine has got to stop. People need to wake up and take control of their destiny and not throw their future down a toilet on the other side of the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 01/30/2008
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