Obama Says Clinton Would Be a Step Back

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NEDRA PICKLER and MIKE GLOVER | January 30, 2008 11:13 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill, center, talks with supporters at a "Stand for Change" rally at Veterans Memorial Coliseum Wednesday, Jan. 30, 2008, in Phoenix, Ariz. Obama is flanked by Arizona's Democratic Governor Janet Napolitano, left, and Caroline Kennedy, both recently endorsed the candidate. (Photo/Ross D. Franklin)

DENVER — Democratic Sen. Barack Obama said Wednesday a Hillary Rodham Clinton presidency would be a step back to the past, turning her husband's image of a bridge to the future against her. The former first lady decried the tenor of his comments in an interview with The Associated Press.

"I know it is tempting _ after another presidency by a man named George Bush _ to simply turn back the clock, and to build a bridge back to the 20th century," the Illinois senator said in Denver.

"... It's not enough to say you'll be ready from Day One _ you have to be right from Day One," he added in unmistakable criticisms of Clinton, who often claims she's better prepared to govern, and her husband, who pledged during his own presidency to build a bridge to the 21st century.

Within hours, Hillary Clinton pushed back in an interview with the AP _ and got in her own dig.

"That certainly sounds audacious, but not hopeful," said Clinton, in a play on the title of Obama's book, "The Audacity of Hope." "It's not hopeful and it's not what we should be talking about in this campaign," said Clinton, suggesting Obama was abandoning the core of his campaign.

"I would certainly, through you, hope we could get back to talking about the issues, drawing the contrasts that are based in fact that have a connection to the American people," Clinton said.

In his speech, Obama depicted Clinton as a calculating, poll-tested divisive figure who will only inspire greater partisan divisions as she sides with Republicans on issues such as trade, the role of lobbyists in politics and national security. At the same time, he elevated McCain, fresh off victory in Florida's crucial primary, as the likely Republican nominee.

In the AP interview, Clinton vowed to take the high road and warned that voters in the mega-primaries next week expect that.

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"I'm going to continue to talk to people about what we need to do in our country to try to lift people up, to keep focused on the future to be very specific about what I want to do as president because I want to be held accountable," she said.

Obama drew more than 10,000 people for his speech at the University of Denver. They packed a hockey arena and crammed into two overflow rooms and still were lined up outside to get in. Colorado is a caucus state, one of 22 to hold nominating contests Tuesday, and is one of a handful of states where the Obama campaign is predicting victory. Clinton has the advantage in several others, while several are still up for grabs.

"Democrats will win in November and build a majority in Congress not by nominating a candidate who will unite the other party against us, but by choosing one who can unite this country around a movement for change," Obama said, speaking as rival John Edwards was pulling out of the race in New Orleans, leaving a Clinton-Obama fight for the Democratic nomination.

"It is time for new leadership that understands the way to win a debate with John McCain or any Republican who is nominated is not by nominating someone who agreed with him on voting for the war in Iraq or who agreed with him in voting to give George Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iran, who agrees with him in embracing the Bush-Cheney policy of not talking to leaders we don't like, who actually differed with him by arguing for exceptions for torture before changing positions when the politics of the moment changed," Obama said.

"We need to offer the American people a clear contrast on national security, and when I am the nominee of the Democratic Party, that is exactly what I will do," he said.

The two rivals fought hard prior to the South Carolina primary, but the tenor has eased a bit since then.

"I've been trying to keep this on a level where the contrasts and comparisons are certainly fair, this is an election after all," said Clinton. "I've been trying very hard to set the right tone, to be focused on bringing the party together, bringing the country together but around specific goals."

Clinton spent her day in Little Rock, Ark., before heading to Atlanta for speeches to the Southern Baptist Convention and a major Democratic fundraiser. She took a colorful diversion on the trip to Atlanta, heading down the aisle of her campaign plane serving peach cobbler to reporters and staffers.

"I love anything peach," Clinton said.

Obama said he understands voters might feel some comfort at the idea of returning to another President Clinton after eight years of Bush. But he cautioned voters not to buy the argument that Clinton's experience is what the country needs.

"It is about the past versus the future," he said. "And when I am the nominee, the Republicans won't be able to make this election about the past.

"If you choose change, you will have a nominee who doesn't just tell people what they want to hear," Obama told them. "Poll-tested positions, calculated answers might be how Washington confronts challenges, but it's not how you overcome those challenges; it's not how you inspire our nation to come together behind a common purpose, and it's not what America needs right now. You need a candidate who will tell you the truth."

Later Wednesday, Obama gave a 10-minute talk by live broadcast to a joint meeting in Atlanta of four historically black Baptist denominations, where Clinton appeared later. These groups produced some of the most prominent civil rights leaders, including the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., whom Obama quoted.

"Pastors are pushing this movement forward," Obama said of his campaign, "and I need each and every one of you in this fight."

He asked the audience to imagine what it would mean for the country to see him with his hand on the Bible, taking the presidential oath of office.

"Our children will look at themselves differently and their possibilities differently. They'll look at each other differently," he said.

Clinton addressed the same group with a theme that aides described as a call for togetherness they contrasted with Obama's criticism. "Let us consider how we may spur one another to love and good deeds," Clinton said. She ended the day with a speech to a rowdy fundraising dinner.

"This has been a vigorous campaign," she said. "Whatever differences we have, they pale with the differences we have with Republicans."

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Associated Press Writer Mike Glover reported from Atlanta.

DENVER — Democratic Sen. Barack Obama said Wednesday a Hillary Rodham Clinton presidency would be a step back to the past, turning her husband's image of a bridge to the future against her. The ...
DENVER — Democratic Sen. Barack Obama said Wednesday a Hillary Rodham Clinton presidency would be a step back to the past, turning her husband's image of a bridge to the future against her. The ...
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Lies, and the Lying Liars who Tell Them: Part 2

Al should be able to write a new one if Hillary takes office; look over the "fact sheet" she used to try to claim that Obama's assertions were inaccurate.

As an educator, I've seen lots of disputes between children, and if one person gets caught doing something wrong, it's a pretty fair bet that they'll start pointing fingers. "Yeah, well Jimmy said it too!" These accusations are usually pretty spurious. I always tell them that we'll deal with Jimmy in a moment, but right now, let's just deal with what they did, and with what they should have done.

Clinton acts, essentially, like a red-handed second grader. The simple facts are that she voted to authorize the war, she voted for Bush's resolution condemning Iran, she ripped into Obama for saying we should meet with foreign leaders we don't like, and she argued in favor of torture.

Clinton responded by saying, essentially, that in some things, Obama and her agree, so she must not be like McCain. This is, as you can see for yourself, spurious. It doesn't address the issue at all.

Now, she's obviously more dovish than McCain; no support for the troop surge, no willingness to stay there 100 years if needs be. However, you'd have to be nuts not to agree that the spectrum goes, Obama-Clin­ton-McCain­.

What's nice is that this will make the issue surface early and often at the debate. I'm looking forward to hearing Obama be aggressive with Clinton about this; it's probably the primary reason why I started to listen to him in the first place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 01/30/2008
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Who is he to talk? He's no better. While I'm glad Obama was against the war to begin with, he's still in favor of continuing the occupation. He just wants to remove COMBAT troops, not ALL troops. And furthermore, the ones he wants to remove won't actually be coming home to America, they'll actually be redeployed throughout the middle east. So that's really not bringing the trops "home." Nobody supports his position on Iran, which means the red,white, and clueless american populace will either turn to closet neocon hillary or captain insano mccaino. And since mccain pretty much has the presidency in the bag already (yes, already), we need to start serious discussions on how we're going to stop this crazy neocon agenda from continuing. if we don't do something now, then a lot of posters on this site are going to die for this warmonger, period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 01/30/2008
- RedRooster I'm a Fan of RedRooster 21 fans permalink

Now that my favorite candidate, John Edwards, has withdrawn from the race, it is up to Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama to earn my support by successfully debating the issues. I will not be persuaded by negative ads, surrogate attacks or TeeVee pundits...­in fact, that will cost them points. It's now time for our Senator-Candidates to run respectfully persuasive campaigns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 01/30/2008
- Mavin1620 I'm a Fan of Mavin1620 9 fans permalink
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In the West, including California, the Kennedy endorsement might not help Obama, because Ted Kennedy is not idolized out here, nor is Carolyn.

Obama has not voted much differently than Clinton. His lack of NO votes (Present, Present, and so on) to Bush administration initiatives distresses me.

I will, however, vote for whomever the Dems put on the ballot, because the GOP isn't very G any more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 01/30/2008
- bobdob I'm a Fan of bobdob 18 fans permalink

This may have been a brilliant move on the part of the Obama campaign. I suspect he plans to take her on during the debate on these issues, and the Clinton campaign has now told him what her response will be.

The key to successful political strategy is to always set up your next shot. I think Obama just did that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 01/30/2008
- bobdob I'm a Fan of bobdob 18 fans permalink

I think the reason Obama has decided not to call Hillary out on the fact that he has more experience as an elected official is two-fold:

1). He could easily come off sounding petty if he challenges her years as first lady.

2). Talking about his experience could undercut his argument about how she's the Washington insider in the race.

Obama has MORE experience in elected office. I totally disagree with his campaign's strategy in this regard and I think he's conceding a point to Hillary that is seriously helping her and hurting him. But that's how they seem to be playing it.

What's really surprising to me is how disinterested the press have been in calling her out on her phony claims. She consistently gets a pass on this one from the press.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 01/30/2008
- Svenson I'm a Fan of Svenson 3 fans permalink

BREAKING NEWS

Ted Keneddy will appear with Obama in Denver to speak on foreign policy. The bestest political team at cnn, msnbc and Huffington Post has obtained exclusive excerpts from today's speech:

Ted Kennnedy will annoucne a love fest at his summer holiday family compound where all the radical Muslims and communists will be invited to sign a global peace agreement and a non-racial agreement to end all wars.

Edwards will be invited if he promise to endorse Obama.

Clintons and Mccain will not be invited because they are war mongers and racists.

To make the love fest and our sincerity that there will be no future wars, all teh nuclear warheads and weapons of mass destruction will be fired into the air in lieu of fireworks.

Love & Peace Brother

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 01/30/2008

I wish the media would quit promoting the "fight" and start talking about the issues. No where does Obama "rip" Hillary for siding with McCain on Iraq and other issues. Unless by "rip" the headline writer means intelligently and calmly points them out.

All a headline like this does is bring Hillary's people out of the woodwork to say: "See! Obama IS picking on Hillary and why can't he just talk about his own proposals.­"

A race for office is about pointing out differences in POLICY positions and VOTING history and then letting us decide.

5 years on the board of Wal Mart promoting a decidedly undemocratic agenda is much different than 5 hours as a junior associate working on the non-profit investment of a rich man who would be charged with a crime many years later.

The first is a statement of Hillary's leaning toward a corporate face to government, one long supported by her history both in her law practice, her White House duties and her years Congress, not to mention her own statements during this race. It is quite clear that Hillary and Bill are DLC all the way. The FOUNDED it for Christ's sake.

The latter is tying Obama to an ACCUSED criminal using the Kevin Bacon Six Degrees of Separation game.

There is no COMPARISON! The former is clearly citing a difference in political philosophies while the latter is clearly a dirty trick out of the neocon playbook.

Please, HuffPost, be a little more diligent, intelligent and objective in your headline writing. A better one might have been: "Obama points out Clinton's positions are very similar to McCain." Or, "Obama says Clinton sides with McCain on Iraq, Iran, Torture.

It's hard to have a civil discourse when the media keep screaming, "It's a FIGHT!" This isn't grade school.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 01/30/2008

I for one won't be voting for anyone because they are a good or bad debater.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 01/30/2008
- Svenson I'm a Fan of Svenson 3 fans permalink

If Obama believes in what he is saying ... he should walk the talk ....

He should make a trip to the border between Pakistan and Afganistan and start a peace dialogue with the AQ now and sign a peace agreemtn or on day 1 of winning (if he wins)

He should make a trip to Cuba and sign a peace agreement with Castro before he passes away

Obama should make a trip to Iraq without the bodyguard and body armour becos the AQ will not attack him, and sign a peace agreement NOW

Otherwise if we wait for Obama to get elected and then for him to make peace he is likely to find a technicality and sign PRESENT on the peace agreements

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 01/30/2008
- Zhonni I'm a Fan of Zhonni 15 fans permalink
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If Obama's camp is listening, you need to talk about experience and healthcare. You do not need to talk a whole lot about the change and Iraq. If Iraq comes up, he should say we need to bring the troops home and use the money to fix our problems. He is a change agent and I think people get that part.

Say things people can hang on to, like, Obama has more legislative experience than Clinton. That is a concrete contrast. Make them have to say she has more Washington experience which is quite useless at this time.

Talk about healthcare and the fact that Clinton's mandate will force people living paycheck to paycheck to pay for health insurance they can't afford. Obama wants to lower the cost as opposed to just "creating" universal healthcare by making the poor bankrupt.

Hillary's healthcare will not pass, and if it does, will bankrupt the poor. Obama is a problem solver a critical thinker, a man of conviction, and will fight to make things happen.

Do I need to school some of the campaign advisers or what. It is obvious that Obama needs to push back hard against the "lack of experience" talk. Can you say he has the heart and more than enough experience to bring about change?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 01/30/2008
- JackWOrf I'm a Fan of JackWOrf 10 fans permalink

Sounds cool. That will differentiate the two, now that its down to Musical Chairs with only one chair left.

64 dollar question: Who will get John Edward's people? I suspect we will find out after Tuesday of next week.

Some say Obama. He might inherit the Anti-Hillary vote. It could also be that John Edwards was the last person that a White, Male Chauvinist, racist, Democrat could vote for. Now he'll have to choose between giving up his racism and voting for Obama, or giving up his sexism and voting for Hillary.

Or just giving up, and voting Republican. Plenty of room for Male Chauvinist Racist Pigs on the other side of the isle. McCain makes the crossing more palatable than Romney.

However, there is still Cracker Bill. Cracker Bill is still a good 'ol boy. Sittin back in the ol' Oval Office, gettin BJ's and eatin' free food. Most good ol' boys DREAM of that.

I will try to refrain from blathering and yakking further until after Super Tuesday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 01/30/2008
- Svenson I'm a Fan of Svenson 3 fans permalink

Here is the voting record ...PRESENT­, PRESENT, PRESENT, PRESENT, PRESENT, PRESENT, PRESENT, PRESENT...­..........­......

WAR: NO X 1

FUNDING THE WAR: YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

Change and hope? and new beginning?

Do Latinos and Hispanics and Whites look stupid?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 01/30/2008

Clinton's demographics are old, white, women, sounds like a Republican-lite to me, then I look at the votes and it is confirmed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 01/30/2008
- wadenelson1 I'm a Fan of wadenelson1 229 fans permalink
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When did all the campaign managers decide it was "necessary" to install trolls on Huffpo?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 01/30/2008
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