Obama Ad Compared To Nazi March On Clinton Call

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First Posted: 02- 1-08 12:44 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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[Note: Headline updated. See end.]

Ben Smith reports:

The Clinton campaign convened a conference call with health policy experts to denounce Obama's new mailer (.pdf), which attacks Clintons plan for "forcing" Americans to sign up for insurance, and which features a couple at a kitchen table that recalls, for some, the famous insurance-industry financed "Harry and Louise" ads against the original Clinton plan.

"I am personally outraged at the picture used in this mailing," said Len Nichols of the New America foundation, a leading supporter of mandatory insurance, who called it a "Harry and Louise evocation."

"It is as outrageous as having Nazis march through Skokie, Illinois," Nichols said. "I just find it disgusting that this kind of imagery is being used to attack the only way to get to universal coverage."

[Update: At the end of the call, Clinton aide Howard Wolfson disavowed the Nazi reference, saying the campaign didn't think it was appropriate, though he acknowledged the passions the issue stirs.]

Len Nichols served as the liaison between President Clinton's budget office and Mrs. Clinton health-care task force.

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See the full mailer here. New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, a frequent critic of Obama's, agrees with the claim that the ad evokes the "Harry and Louise" ads:

Sorry, but this is just destructive -- like the Obama plan, the Clinton plan offers subsidies to lower-income families. And BO himself has conceded that he might have to penalize people who don't buy insurance until they need care. So this is just poisoning the well for health care reform. The politics of hope, indeed.

But Obama adviser David Axelrod defends the ad: "He called the image 'standard,' and defended the argument against the plan. He also dismissed the suggestion that this mailing is similar to Clinton attacks that Obama has denounced. 'Ours is based in fact and theirs is based in fabrication,' he said."

Update: Both the Clinton campaign and Len Nichols have released statements.

Clinton campaign:

Earlier today, the Clinton campaign held a conference call to discuss
the Obama campaign's negative health care mailer, which is reminiscent
of Harry and Louise ads used by industry to defeat universal health care
in the early 1990s. At the end of the call, Howard Wolfson made the
following statement:


"I heard someone make a reference to a march in Skokie in comparison to
the photograph in the mailer which is not a comparison that we would
make. And everyone on the call is obviously very passionate about this
issue, and rightfully so, but that is not a comparison that we would
make."

These remarks were made by a health care expert unaffiliated with our
campaign. They were totally inappropriate and the campaign rejects them
completely.

Len Nichols, via the New America Foundation:

Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused. I made unfortunate comments that do not accurately reflect my bipartisan conviction, political philosophy, or most importantly, my opinions about Senator Obama and his historic campaign for the United States presidency."


"While I have consulted with seven former and current presidential candidates, I am not affiliated nor a surrogate for the Clinton campaign, or any other campaign."

"I wholeheartedly appreciate Senator Obama's concern for Americans struggling to afford health insurance and I admire his amazing ability to inspire the nation. In fact, it is my own moral and religious convictions that lead me to believe that it is necessary for our country to guarantee quality, affordable health insurance for all Americans. My foremost priority is to advance the health reform debate by protecting a fact-based discussion."

"The New America Foundation is a non-partisan think tank, that does not endorse or advise any campaign in an official capacity " said Steve Coll, New America's President and CEO. "Len's decision to participate in the call and his comments on the mailer are regrettable. Len is passionate and committed to reforming health care in America, and I know that he sincerely regrets these unfortunate remarks."

Note: The original headline for this post described Len Nichols as a Clinton "backer" -- he has consulted with Clinton's campaign (and several others) but is officially unaffiliated in he race.

[Note: Headline updated. See end.] Ben Smith reports: The Clinton campaign convened a conference call with health policy experts to denounce Obama's new mailer (.pdf), which attacks Clintons plan fo...
[Note: Headline updated. See end.] Ben Smith reports: The Clinton campaign convened a conference call with health policy experts to denounce Obama's new mailer (.pdf), which attacks Clintons plan fo...
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- MadamRoma I'm a Fan of MadamRoma 11 fans permalink

Obama is a damned two-bit liar!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 02/01/2008
- rwe I'm a Fan of rwe 21 fans permalink

who would a thunk,,,,, today on the huffho... you have whe word Nazi with Hillary and Barry,,,, and you have pictures of Rush , Rove, Ann Coulter, John McCain, Mitt and Pres Bush ... and hillary and Barry are the ones coming out in the bad light .... What a dream ticket

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 02/01/2008
- Earl I'm a Fan of Earl 90 fans permalink
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I hope I am not right, but I fear that any insurance that we'll get out of either candidate's plan will be on par with the quality of life insurance plans sold on TV. If we're forced to either prove that we already have insurance or to buy insurance, we can be sure that there will be a new government bureaucracy set up to police us, and the government insurance will be crap set up to keep catastrophic care bills down to a size that we can work off over the rest of our lives, and they'll probably take away our option to get out from under that debt via bankruptcy, just like student loans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 02/01/2008
- Nutcase I'm a Fan of Nutcase 49 fans permalink
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Is Obama going to propose making Social Security voluntary, or privitizing it?

cognito ergo populistae

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 02/01/2008
- BonoX I'm a Fan of BonoX 4 fans permalink

Its stunning to see all the obamites now stooping to republican talking points to prove their point!
they are running the same kind of ad republicans ran in 1993 when its clearly not true! Clinton plan does account for those who can't afford it by giving them benifits.
So much for the politics of hope!
And instead of focusing on the attack ad, this openly pro-obama site has shifted its focus on what clinton supporter is saying about it! wonder why they just don't come out openly and endorse obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 02/01/2008
- Dalpine I'm a Fan of Dalpine 6 fans permalink

Looks like Hillary borrowed Rove from her buddy Murdoch. Yet another reason not to vote for her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 02/01/2008
- naturesway I'm a Fan of naturesway 12 fans permalink

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This is a real disappointment from the Obama camp. I really had hoped that he meant he would rise above attack ads and innuendo.

It is classic Rovain. Take your own weakness and project upon the other candidate.

Obama's plan leaves out 15 million people...s­o he attacks Hillary for including those 15 million.

People, Universal health care works because
EVERYONE is included. If people can say no thanks , as in Obama's plan, heck great. I know I can just go to the ER and let you guys pay for it. I know plenty of people who forgo Health Insurance. They can afford it if they wouldn't be buying all the latest crap from China. But they won't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 02/01/2008

Wow. I was an Obama fan but now I associate him with Adolf Hitler because of that con call. Very persuasive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 02/01/2008

Len Nichols is offended by this?!?!? Sensitive guy.

Robert Reich is not a Nazi, BTW

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 02/01/2008
- moda31 I'm a Fan of moda31 10 fans permalink

this again?!? say something outrageously stupid to plant the seed and then quietly take it back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 02/01/2008

Senator Clinton's supporters need to dail down the irresponsible hyperbole. Comparing their candidate's opponents to rapists and Nazis trivializes the atrocities committed by both and doesn't help her cause in the least.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 02/01/2008
- OkieMon I'm a Fan of OkieMon 35 fans permalink

obama is a neocon so it is in line with his character to use neocon tactics to try to kill universal health care....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 02/01/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

At least the couple wasn't being gang banged during the Nazi march...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 02/01/2008

I guess the couple was blond. Maybe that's where he got that from. Otherwise maybe they think calling Obama a Nazi will stick,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 02/01/2008
- SeeDaddy I'm a Fan of SeeDaddy 8 fans permalink

Politicians and the public are thinking inside a very small box! A simpler and fairer model is to provide universal healthcare paid for for with a payroll tax on all workers and employers. This tax would replace the $9000 my employer and I will pay to a private insurance company this year. Additional funding could come from a tax on business/corporate profits, because they would benefit by not having to provide insurance benefits for their employees, and from a healthier workforce and consumers.

Currently, all the proposals from Dem and Rep candidates are poorly conceived and would do nothing to soleve the healthcare problem. The free market proposals are nothing than continuing the current system, or worse, creating fewer and bigger super private health insurance companies.

A paradigm shift is desperately needed

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 02/01/2008
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