Obama Steadily Gaining Support Across The Country, But It May Not Be Enough

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First Posted: 02- 2-08 09:17 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Barack Obama continues to make steady gains in every major Tsunami Tuesday state just three days before what is a virtual national primary but he still trails rival Hillary Clinton.

"All signs are the trends are moving in Obama's direction," said Columbia political scientist Robert Y. Shapiro in assessing numerous state by state surveys. These same trends are reflected in polls of all voters, he said, noting that "Gallup's website's tracking poll shows the same nationally. But no evidence for Obama overtaking Clinton. I would trust the trends but not the magnitude - [it] could be greater or less."

In order to pull even with Clinton on Tuesday, Obama would have to conclude the final three days of the contest with a burst of acceleration. Primaries are highly volatile and previous presidential candidates - Gary Hart, John McCain and Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire in 1984, 2000 and 2008 respectively - have made double-digit gains in the final days, but such phenomena are rare.

Clinton has a strong lead in two of the major delegate-rich February 5 states, New York and New Jersey, although Obama is spending substantial sums in the very expensive media markets serving these states in a bid to battle Clinton for delegates. After reporting a record-breaking $32 million in fundraising during this past month of January, the flush Obama campaign has plenty to spend on ads throughout the key Tsunami Tuesday battlegrounds.

Experts generally agree that while trend predictions have held up, in general polls this year are less reliable than they have been in the past, making public opinion surveys risky to use as the basis for forecasting election results: overall turnout is unpredictable; many first-time voters are casting ballots; unlisted cell phones have become more common; significantly lower response rates; and voters are changing their minds more often and more rapidly than in previous contests. On January 30, the Wall Street Journal laid out problems facing pollsters.

Despite the difficulties in collecting reliable poll data, most campaign strategists and political scientists interviewed for this article contend there is a trend in place that favors Obama, while predicting - cautiously - that Clinton would survive the onslaught.

"He's closing on her," observed a prominent Democratic strategist who supports Clinton, arguing that it is unlikely that the outcome on February 5 will settle the nomination either way.

The strategist noted that the next big event after Tsunami Tuesday will be the "Potomac Primary" on February 12 when Virginia, Maryland and Washington, D.C. hold primaries. "Obama looks like he will be strong that day," he said, pointing out that the District should be solid for the Illinois Senator, that the large African American voting blocks in Baltimore and Prince George's county should help Obama carry Maryland, and that Obama has the backing of former Governor Douglas Wilder and current Governor Tim Kaine in Virginia where 30 to 35 percent of the Democratic primary electorate is African American, and where many of the suburban Washington residents are the kind of well-educated professionals who tend to support Obama.

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On Friday, Gallup released national tracking poll data showing Obama within three points of Hillary Clinton, 44-41 -- "as close as they have been since the polling program started at the beginning of 2008," as the official analysis of the survey stated. Gallup found that Obama gained five points, more than Clinton's two points, after John Edwards' withdrawal from the contest.

"Obama is closing the gap, but I don't think he has enough time to close it all the way," said University of California-San Diego political scientists Gary Jacobson. "He would be better off if he had another week."

Democratic operative Tom Lindenfeld, an Obama supporter, said: "Most of the movement is toward Obama. Whether it's enough to overcome the incumbent-based lead she has is doubtful. But we are going to close gaps they thought they had locked up."

Columbia political scientist Robert Erikson pointed to the following possibility: "If, as all accounts suggest, Obama is gaining, it is possible that he is surging even more than the polls suggest."

A total of 22 states hold primaries and caucuses on February 5, more on a single day than ever before. 1688 delegates will be picked that day, out of the 4323 Democratic delegates who will go to the August nominating convention in Denver. In order to win the nomination, a candidate will require the support of at least 2162 delegates.

With a total of 63, Obama has won the most delegates to date in primaries and caucuses. Clinton has collected 48 and has gained many more endorsements from so-called "super delegates," members of Congress, the Democratic National Committee and prominent local elected Democrats, to put her ahead in the overall race, 256 to 181.

The state-by-state polling trends are readily visible in charts maintained at Pollster.com and RealClearPolitics

In two southern states with large African American electorates, Alabama and Georgia, the Pollster.com charts show Obama recently pulling ahead of Clinton.

In most cases, however, Clinton appears to be maintaining or slightly increasing her support levels -- in the mid to high 40 percent range -- while Obama, in recent days and weeks, has moved up, often to the high 30s or low 40s -- reducing a substantial deficit to a more modest shortfall, possibly threatening Clinton's prospects.

Obama has begun to improve his position in New York , Clinton's home state, but her 20 point-plus advantage looks almost impregnable. The same is not true in a number of other states.

"Polls in New Jersey show a tightening race; the latest has a six point lead for Hillary," said SUNY-Binghamton political scientist Jonathan Krasno. "Obama stands an outside chance of winning, but I suspect he'd be pretty happy to lose by five [percentage points]. Doing well there is essential for Hillary since she's had a huge lead for the whole season, and has the support of nearly the whole political establishment."

Tim Vercellotti, Director of Polling at Rutgers' Eagleton Institute of Politics, reaches a similar conclusion, noting that "the race [in New Jersey] has become more competitive. Clinton had a 30-point lead over Obama in the polls for much of the fall," he said. "The widespread perception until recently was that the primary would offer little suspense, even after having been moved from early June to early February. Events have conspired to change all of that," Vercellotti added.

Here is the New Jersey graph from Pollster.com:

The pro-Obama trend in New Jersey will not be strong enough to give him a win unless he starts to gain at a much sharper rate in the closing days. The trend lines in California are slightly sharper. Not only is Obama moving up, but Clinton is moving down.

The trend in Connecticut shows Obama gaining strength very quickly, much faster than in neighboring Massachusetts where the state's three top Democrats, U.S. Senators Ted Kennedy and John Kerry and Governor Deval Patrick, have all endorsed Obama. Lindenfeld noted that Obama may be benefiting in Connecticut from the residual effects of Ned Lamont's successful Democratic primary challenge to Joe Lieberman, with many Lamont voters fitting the voter model targeted by Obama.


Barack Obama continues to make steady gains in every major Tsunami Tuesday state just three days before what is a virtual national primary but he still trails rival Hillary Clinton. "All signs are th...
Barack Obama continues to make steady gains in every major Tsunami Tuesday state just three days before what is a virtual national primary but he still trails rival Hillary Clinton. "All signs are th...
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- mrJJ I'm a Fan of mrJJ 23 fans permalink

Will the undecided vote slide towards the Incumbent Sen. Billary Clinton or move forward to underdog Sen Barak Obama?

It will be interesting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 02/03/2008
- andyboy I'm a Fan of andyboy 72 fans permalink

At these levels their all insiders. Even Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. There attractivness to voters is so poor they are forced to "portray" themselves as outsiders.

It's similar to birds when they evolve different colors to attract potential mates.

You can explain anything in terms of Darwin. I love that.

For instance did you ever notice how the politician with the most outlandish positions is ALWAYS one of the ugliest as well?

Take away the computers and the automobiles and the cell phones and we are all still cavemen. We havn't changed one iota.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 02/03/2008

I don't think it matters that much whether it is Obama or Hillary that wins the general election, because Republicans will mobilize to stop their agenda anyway.

However, it will be curtains on America if a Republican wins. If John McCain wins then the whole world is going to die. Keep your focus America!

Peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 02/03/2008
- in4success I'm a Fan of in4success 43 fans permalink

A more accurate snapshot of the frosty Clinton-Obama relationship came on a frosty December day in a scorching encounter that is now known simply as “the tarmac moment.” On Dec. 13, the two senators were preparing to board their private planes, parked next to each other at Reagan National Airport, to go back to Iowa for a debate. Hillary sent word to Obama that she wanted to talk to him. Obama’s aides figured that she wanted to make a pro forma apology for the comments of Billy Shaheen, the Clinton co-chairman in New Hampshire, who had told The Washington Post that Republicans would pounce on Obama’s confessions of cocaine and marijuana use in his late teens. Shaheen would step down the next day, but Camp Obama did not think the slam was a mere slip of the tongue.

In front of her plane, Hillary apologized to her rival about Shaheen. Obama replied that he was concerned at the pattern of insinuations and attacks from her supporters and that a message needed to be sent from the top that sharp attacks were not, as Hillary had put it, “the fun part.” He brought up another recent example: the Clinton volunteer in Iowa who had been asked to leave after forwarding sleazy e-mail falsely claiming that Obama was a Muslim.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 02/03/2008

By the way, speaking of trends, I have been getting emails from people VERY TURNED OFF by Hillary's last minute - AND VERY AGAINST THE DEBATE RULES THAT BOTH CANDIDATES SIGNED - freebee ad for her TV show and website.

In the blogosphere and especially in the expat community, it's being referred to as . . .

T H E P L U G H E A R D R O U N D T H E W O R L D

A lot of people are saying that - while Wolf Blitzer, a Clinton supporter - brushed it under the rug, they see it as part of a larger pattern . . .

DISSEMBLING REGARDING HER PRO-WAR VOTING RECORD

DISTURBING BEHAVIOR IN SOUTH CAROLINA

TRYING TO BREAK THE CONTRACT SHE SIGNED IN FLORIDA

AND . . .

T H E P L U G H E A R D R O U N D T H E W O R L D

Indeed, as a result of that PLUG HEARD ROUND THE WORLD at the end of the debates, Hillary's negatives continue to rise while Obama surges.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 AM on 02/03/2008

If Obama is aligned so closely with his Pastor, an avowed black supremist who supported Qaddafi right after he murdered 246 people on a Pan Am flight, etc... Then why are all of you aligning with Obama? This is his Pastor for Chrissakes! The same guy who gave Farrakhan a life time achievement award and follows the teachings his Nation of Islam. Seriously, who is this guy!

Why would he belong to a church that he disagrees with?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 02/03/2008
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Question:

After all this back and forth between Clinton supporters and Obama supporters.

Has anyone who was undecided ever made up there minds based on these exchanges or has anyone's mind been changed to support another candidate ?

Now, be Honest ....

Or are we neighboring dogs barking through the fence ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 02/03/2008
- EvoMan I'm a Fan of EvoMan 30 fans permalink

1, 2, 3, 4, Hillary voted for the war.

And still can't admit it was a mistake.

5, 6, 7, 8, vote Obama it's not too late.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/30/191653/018

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 02/03/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

The shocking thing about Obama is he has all these people backing him and he still can't catch Hillary. How sorry of a candidate is he?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 02/03/2008
- AgathaX I'm a Fan of AgathaX 13 fans permalink
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"Primaries are highly volatile and previous presidential candidates - Gary Hart, John McCain and Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire in 1984, 2000 and 2008 respectively - have made double-digit gains in the final days, but such phenomena are rare."

The South Carolina polls were far more wrong this year than the NH poll. The polls said Obama would win by about 10 points. He won by almost 30. In fact, Clinton has yet to actually win a primary in terms of delegates--which, though the media seems to have forgotten this, is what matters. Her best finish was a tie in NH.

I do not know what the ultimate outcome will be, anymore than anyone else does. But I do not trust the reporting that is done. The reports call NV a win for Clinton even when Obama got more delegates. The reports rarely mention how many people are showing up to see Clinton. It seems to me Clinton's chief relevant experience is in how to manipulate the media. That is something, I suppose and it may be enough, but we don't know that yet.

Young people can reak havoc on polls. All those cell phones. Caller ID and a culture that does not feel to compelled to answer the phone just because it rings.

These are certainly exciting times.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 02/02/2008

Winning the Democratic primary is NOT becoming President- John Kerry can attest to that, Hillary alone has the gravitas, resilience and maturity to beat the Republicans attack machine

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 02/02/2008
- illinoisan I'm a Fan of illinoisan 24 fans permalink
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On big factor for Obama going into Super Tuesday is that nobody thinks he has this in the bag as in New Hampshire. Obama supporters are taking nothing for granted this time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 02/02/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

Time to rewrite the headline.
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=3594

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 02/02/2008
- musselmanm I'm a Fan of musselmanm 20 fans permalink
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Can you imagine the role Senator Jim Webb would play as Vice President, with John Edwards as Attorney General?

Laugh my ass off, that should cause the neo-cons to be very afraid. The double team attack dogs would cause migranes in the worst of the fascists!

That would be the real dream team for any Presidential candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 02/02/2008
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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5 Shot Dead at Suburban Chicago Store

fourex posted: “My statement stands. The Jessica Lynch, Kuwati Incubators, and Pat Tillman stories had more than 900 news sources. All false.”

all propaganda to make gun owners look bad. These killings in a shopping market in Chicago are are false as terrorists using mentally deficient women and crippled children (detonated by remote control) to kill folks in shopping districts in Iraq. Propaganda to make extremists look bad. Not true.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/01/mentally-disabled-women-u_n_84427.html?refresh_comments=1

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/5-shot-dead-at-suburban-c_n_84599.html?refresh_comments=1

sarcasm off

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 02/02/2008
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