Obama Steadily Gaining Support Across The Country, But It May Not Be Enough

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First Posted: 02- 2-08 09:17 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Barack Obama continues to make steady gains in every major Tsunami Tuesday state just three days before what is a virtual national primary but he still trails rival Hillary Clinton.

"All signs are the trends are moving in Obama's direction," said Columbia political scientist Robert Y. Shapiro in assessing numerous state by state surveys. These same trends are reflected in polls of all voters, he said, noting that "Gallup's website's tracking poll shows the same nationally. But no evidence for Obama overtaking Clinton. I would trust the trends but not the magnitude - [it] could be greater or less."

In order to pull even with Clinton on Tuesday, Obama would have to conclude the final three days of the contest with a burst of acceleration. Primaries are highly volatile and previous presidential candidates - Gary Hart, John McCain and Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire in 1984, 2000 and 2008 respectively - have made double-digit gains in the final days, but such phenomena are rare.

Clinton has a strong lead in two of the major delegate-rich February 5 states, New York and New Jersey, although Obama is spending substantial sums in the very expensive media markets serving these states in a bid to battle Clinton for delegates. After reporting a record-breaking $32 million in fundraising during this past month of January, the flush Obama campaign has plenty to spend on ads throughout the key Tsunami Tuesday battlegrounds.

Experts generally agree that while trend predictions have held up, in general polls this year are less reliable than they have been in the past, making public opinion surveys risky to use as the basis for forecasting election results: overall turnout is unpredictable; many first-time voters are casting ballots; unlisted cell phones have become more common; significantly lower response rates; and voters are changing their minds more often and more rapidly than in previous contests. On January 30, the Wall Street Journal laid out problems facing pollsters.

Despite the difficulties in collecting reliable poll data, most campaign strategists and political scientists interviewed for this article contend there is a trend in place that favors Obama, while predicting - cautiously - that Clinton would survive the onslaught.

"He's closing on her," observed a prominent Democratic strategist who supports Clinton, arguing that it is unlikely that the outcome on February 5 will settle the nomination either way.

The strategist noted that the next big event after Tsunami Tuesday will be the "Potomac Primary" on February 12 when Virginia, Maryland and Washington, D.C. hold primaries. "Obama looks like he will be strong that day," he said, pointing out that the District should be solid for the Illinois Senator, that the large African American voting blocks in Baltimore and Prince George's county should help Obama carry Maryland, and that Obama has the backing of former Governor Douglas Wilder and current Governor Tim Kaine in Virginia where 30 to 35 percent of the Democratic primary electorate is African American, and where many of the suburban Washington residents are the kind of well-educated professionals who tend to support Obama.

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On Friday, Gallup released national tracking poll data showing Obama within three points of Hillary Clinton, 44-41 -- "as close as they have been since the polling program started at the beginning of 2008," as the official analysis of the survey stated. Gallup found that Obama gained five points, more than Clinton's two points, after John Edwards' withdrawal from the contest.

"Obama is closing the gap, but I don't think he has enough time to close it all the way," said University of California-San Diego political scientists Gary Jacobson. "He would be better off if he had another week."

Democratic operative Tom Lindenfeld, an Obama supporter, said: "Most of the movement is toward Obama. Whether it's enough to overcome the incumbent-based lead she has is doubtful. But we are going to close gaps they thought they had locked up."

Columbia political scientist Robert Erikson pointed to the following possibility: "If, as all accounts suggest, Obama is gaining, it is possible that he is surging even more than the polls suggest."

A total of 22 states hold primaries and caucuses on February 5, more on a single day than ever before. 1688 delegates will be picked that day, out of the 4323 Democratic delegates who will go to the August nominating convention in Denver. In order to win the nomination, a candidate will require the support of at least 2162 delegates.

With a total of 63, Obama has won the most delegates to date in primaries and caucuses. Clinton has collected 48 and has gained many more endorsements from so-called "super delegates," members of Congress, the Democratic National Committee and prominent local elected Democrats, to put her ahead in the overall race, 256 to 181.

The state-by-state polling trends are readily visible in charts maintained at Pollster.com and RealClearPolitics

In two southern states with large African American electorates, Alabama and Georgia, the Pollster.com charts show Obama recently pulling ahead of Clinton.

In most cases, however, Clinton appears to be maintaining or slightly increasing her support levels -- in the mid to high 40 percent range -- while Obama, in recent days and weeks, has moved up, often to the high 30s or low 40s -- reducing a substantial deficit to a more modest shortfall, possibly threatening Clinton's prospects.

Obama has begun to improve his position in New York , Clinton's home state, but her 20 point-plus advantage looks almost impregnable. The same is not true in a number of other states.

"Polls in New Jersey show a tightening race; the latest has a six point lead for Hillary," said SUNY-Binghamton political scientist Jonathan Krasno. "Obama stands an outside chance of winning, but I suspect he'd be pretty happy to lose by five [percentage points]. Doing well there is essential for Hillary since she's had a huge lead for the whole season, and has the support of nearly the whole political establishment."

Tim Vercellotti, Director of Polling at Rutgers' Eagleton Institute of Politics, reaches a similar conclusion, noting that "the race [in New Jersey] has become more competitive. Clinton had a 30-point lead over Obama in the polls for much of the fall," he said. "The widespread perception until recently was that the primary would offer little suspense, even after having been moved from early June to early February. Events have conspired to change all of that," Vercellotti added.

Here is the New Jersey graph from Pollster.com:

The pro-Obama trend in New Jersey will not be strong enough to give him a win unless he starts to gain at a much sharper rate in the closing days. The trend lines in California are slightly sharper. Not only is Obama moving up, but Clinton is moving down.

The trend in Connecticut shows Obama gaining strength very quickly, much faster than in neighboring Massachusetts where the state's three top Democrats, U.S. Senators Ted Kennedy and John Kerry and Governor Deval Patrick, have all endorsed Obama. Lindenfeld noted that Obama may be benefiting in Connecticut from the residual effects of Ned Lamont's successful Democratic primary challenge to Joe Lieberman, with many Lamont voters fitting the voter model targeted by Obama.


Barack Obama continues to make steady gains in every major Tsunami Tuesday state just three days before what is a virtual national primary but he still trails rival Hillary Clinton. "All signs are th...
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Before we get all giddy about our impending victory
and rejoicing about our united party's huge plurality,
we should thank the man who made all this possible,
as well as providing the death knell of the GOP; W!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 02/02/2008
- Rubiconski I'm a Fan of Rubiconski 32 fans permalink
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If Dems nominate a WARHAWK like Hillary they will instantly become a worldwide joke, backstabbing millions of Americans who have dedicated years to ending the immoral war in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 02/02/2008
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Some prominent Republicans have caught Obama fever.

Susan Eisenhower is more than just another disappointed Republican. She is also Ike's granddaughter and a dedicated member of the party who has urged her fellow Republicans in the past to stick with the GOP. But now Eisenhower, who runs an international consulting firm, is endorsing Barack Obama. She has no plans to officially leave the Republican Party. But in Eisenhower's view, Obama is the only candidate who can build a national consensus on the issues most important to her—energy, global warming, an aging population and America's standing in the world.

"Barack Obama will really be in a singular position to attract moderate Republicans," she told NEWSWEEK. "I wanted to do what many people did for my grandfather in 1952. He was hugely aided in his quest for the presidency by Democrats for Eisenhower. There's a long and fine tradition of crossover voters."

Eisenhower is one of a small but symbolically powerful group of what Obama recently called "Obamacans"—disaffected Republicans who have drifted away from their party just as Eisenhower Democrats did and, more recently, Reagan Democrats in the 1980s. They include lifelong Republican Tricia Moseley, a former staffer for the late Sen. Strom Thurmond, the one-time segregationist from South Carolina. Now a high-school teacher, Moseley says she was attracted to Obama's positions on education and the economy.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/107476

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 02/02/2008
- kentj I'm a Fan of kentj 6 fans permalink

Barack Obama is the Democratic Party only hope for unity for the party and the country.

If Hillary Clinton, who voted for and support(s)(?), the Iraq war, than she turned around and voted for and supports the Kyle-Lieberman bill for war with Iran, if she wins, Independents and the majority of Anti-War Protesters will go Third Party or Republican.

Not only will Hillary Clinton lose the general election, but from the hate, and racism card playing that she and Bill Clinton has done, the Democratic Party will collapse.

I hope democrats truly want change and to move forward, instead of continue to look backwards or remain status quo, while innocent Iraqis and Americans die everyday.

Hillary Clinton has proven she has bad judgement with her vote for the Iraq war. But that vote could have been accepted as a honest mistake if she had admitted she made a mistake, istead of playing with words as Bill did with "depends on what is, is". But once Hillary Clinton cast the support vote for war with Iran, that solidified the fact she has bad judgement that cause innocent people to die. How many more bad judgements can society afford from Hillary Clinton? Isn't one dead human being for oil, one too many?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 02/02/2008

I'm glad to read in at least one post here that there is energy in LA for Obama.

Here in the northwest corner of the state, we had a Walk for Obama in the pouring rain this morning. I wasnt their, but I heard that it happened. Anyhow, there is a lot of energy here for Obama too...though we don't count for too many CA votes b/c we're a rural area. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 02/02/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1669 fans permalink
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Regardless of who wins, Dems have already won.

Democrats will be nominating either a woman or a Black man to be our next President -both exceptionally gifted, intelligent, and full of ideas.

What a joy!

Eat shit Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 02/02/2008

serious question

how can MSNBC claim to be 'the place for politics' yet for the last 3 hours they have had re-runs of dateline shows?

we are 3 days away from the most historic political story ever and MSNBC is showing some old murder mystery segment from dateline.

it doesnt seem to be the place for politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 02/02/2008
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http://tinyurl.com/yvzqo7

MTV. Check it out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 02/02/2008

This is one of the reasons that I would support Ralph Nader if he chooses to run. Prescient.

http://www.counterpunch.org/nader02022008.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 02/02/2008
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""CLINTON SLEEZE FATIGUE WILL INVIGORATE GOP, DISPIRIT DEMOCRATS AND SINK DEMOCRATIC TICKET""

""OBAMA/EDWARDS TO WIN""

It is possible that Senator Clinton is the best candidate. However, even though many may like the policies that Senator Clinton proposes, they should also consider her record, just as Senator Clinton insists.
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The last Clinton Administration, when faced with the fact that protection rackets where assaulting, torturing and murdering people with poison and radiation, chose to avoid its responsibilities to incarcerate the criminals and to protect the citizenry.
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Instead, they made a deal with the criminal gang stalker protection rackets to leave them alone and to consequently abandon the citizenry.
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Do we want a President who sells out the citizenry for votes?
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Do we want a President who sends a "crime does pay" message to society?
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Would you vote for a President who signed nonaggression deals with the KKKlan or the Nazi party? Gangs that torture with poison and radiation are much like the KKKlan and Nazi Party.
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We do not need a sellout President. We need a principled leader President.
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If you are one of the few who do not know what the above refers to, do a web search for "gang stalking" to see the tip of the dirtberg. Please do it before you decide to reply to my post. Here let me make it easy for you :

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22gang+stalking%22

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 02/02/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 663 fans permalink
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Just say NO to repubs. Pretty simple, really.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 02/02/2008
- LaFeminazi I'm a Fan of LaFeminazi 236 fans permalink
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Hey looking at the Huffy who donated what from where to whom.

Osama Bin Laden gave McCain $4,600.

Apperently he has a view over central park.

;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 02/02/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

Boy, it's exciting as heck here in CA. The mayor of SF and LA both are working hard for Clinton. She held a huge rally in San Jose and the turnout surprised everyone, including her!

There's now some aggressive old-fashioned politicking going on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 02/02/2008

If Democrats are so cowardly and foolish that they buy this idea--only Clinton can beat McCain--then the party and the country are doomed.

Obama is the leader who can get our country on its feet again. He needs cabinet members (like Joe Biden) who can deal with our exit from Iraq without bringing down the house. It can be done. Clinton can't do it, because she won't get the chance. The GOP is waiting for her to get the nomination, so they can destroy her campaign.

A Clinton-McCain fight would be a disaster. The Republicans will SHRED the Clintons--both of them--in this election. And McCain WILL win, if we don't back Obama.

WAKE UP. Then vote Obama. It's our chance, and it is here, and if you don't grab it because you are afraid, then you can pat yourself on the back when McCain wins.

We must be bold, and strong, this time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 02/02/2008
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I would almost want to have Hillary leading the ticket with Obama as VP so we don't have to go through another death of Camelot with Hillary playing LBJ's role and enlarging the Crusade for Muslim Resources. LBJ did a lot to advance civil rights but his work to end poverty had mixed results, particularly for Blacks.

I would rather have Obama behind her and keeping her honest about getting the hell out of the Middle East before wasting another million lives and two trillion dollars. All I really want is Edwards at Atty Gen, fighting back the evils of corporatism and putting rethugs in jail!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 02/02/2008
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