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2008 election, 2008 presidential race, huffpolitics, Barack Obama, Black Vote, democratic primary, female vote, gender, Hillary Clinton, Super Tuesday, Super Tuesday results

Race And, To A Lesser Extent, Gender Still Divide Dem Race

February 5, 2008 10:21 PM


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Exit polls from the Democratic primary show an electorate still divided by race and gender - the former remains a wide gap in favor of Sen. Barack Obama, but the latter is narrowing slightly against Sen. Hillary Clinton.

Throughout the southern states, Obama continued to best Clinton among black voters by exceedingly wide margins. In Georgia the Illinois Democrat earned 88 percent of that group's support, compared to Clinton's 11 percent. In Alabama, that margin was 82 percent to 16 percent and in Tennessee it was 84 percent to 13 percent. Even in the Northeast, the black community overwhelmingly backed Obama. In New Jersey, 87 percent of African American voters supported Obama compared to 12 percent for Clinton. In Connecticut it was 69 percent to 25 percent.

In response to Obama's distinct advantage among blacks, the Clinton campaign has cited a similarly strong leg up among women voters. But the margins there have grown somewhat closer. Obama was preferred among female voters in Georgia and Alabama, which is not surprising giving his margins of victory in both those states. But in Connecticut, women went with Clinton by a relatively close 52 percent to 45 percent. That number was mirrored in New Jersey, where Clinton won 54 percent of the woman vote to Obama's 44 percent. The trend was not apparent everywhere. In Massachusetts the margin was larger: 57 percent to 40 percent. As it was in California, where Clinton earned 57 percent of the female vote to Obama's 39.

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- prochange I'm a Fan of prochange 3 fans permalink

The real tragedy is that in order to be elected president you have to be bought by big corporations, sold like a detergent by Madison Avenue, you have to be a virtual saint (or what some people consider a saint), you will only succeed if you lie, attack, slander and put down your opponents. There is nothing uplifting or inspiring about becoming president of the U.S. And the only reason people submit themselves to this grueling process is power. And it does not matter if it is a woman, an old man or a young man, they do not wish to change the conditions of the average American, they want to be in power. But the real power lies with those who finance the candidates and they rule the country.s
Unfortunately the average voter has been so successfully indoctrinated with the wrong messages that they are not able to see what is done to them.

If people would really be interested in bettering their life and the conditions in this country, they would have looked more seriously at a candidate like Dennis Kucinich, who wanted all the right things and voted the right way all the time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 02/06/2008

The Clintons are very expertly mining the long simmering issues between the Afro-American and Latino communities. They are also doing the same with the Asian community.

In L.A. there has been a long history of black/asian poor relations, particularly with Koreans . The black community also began to resent the surge of the Latino population that has surpassed them not only in numbers, but in program and community funding projects.

Conservative Dems and Repubs have further pitted these two groups against each other with the illegal immigration issue, by convincing the black community that illegal aliens are to blame for their lack of job opportunities instead of the poorly run Republican economy. So now you have the Latino and Asian communities against Obama.

The strategy is working. I have even heard Hillary supporters refer to her opponent as "that black guy". Every human sub-group is capable of prejudice. Those power hungry enough to do so, are using this fact to divide and conquer.

This race has changed my mind about the Clintons. Devious and relentless in their self-centered desire for power, they have damaged the Democratic party.

If Hillary wins the nomination, she will unite the split that McCain has caused in the Republican party and put yet another flawed Republican in the White House.

Obama is the only path to the White House for the Dems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 02/06/2008



obviously the good folk of the small rural states of "middle america" just don't think a woman should be POTUS. hillary kicked his ass in the large population states. if she was a white man she'd have wiped the floor with him all over the country. the gender bias is still huge in some places. especially in all the small states dumbya relied on.

sad.

and now, back to the MSM's cheerleading for saint obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 02/06/2008
- IsaacKuo I'm a Fan of IsaacKuo 4 fans permalink

We are not DIVIDED by race and gender! This spin needs to die, because the fact is that Clinton and Obama are very similar on the issues. If the two candidates are practically the same on the issues, what's wrong with choosing based on looks?

This contest can't be decided on the issues because there just isn't enough of a difference on the issues. It's going to be decided based on other factors, and we shouldn't buy into the hype that this is a big deal.

That said, we need to face the reality that race/gender aren't nearly as important as the "electability" factor. It's clear that among Clinton and Obama supporters, either one is equally popular. We need to face up to the fact that Hillary is absolutely hated by the other guys, for better or worse (it's worse).

Yes, Hillary Clinton has gotten a raw deal. The Right has vilified her for years and the media just can't stop picking apart her every womanly/non-womanly detail. Part of me wants to support Clinton just because she deserves so much better.

But this election isn't about what the candidates deserve, but what the country needs. We need a fresh start, and we need someone with broad appeal. That's never going to be Hillary. It'll either be Obama, or it'll be McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 02/06/2008
- DennyCrane I'm a Fan of DennyCrane 20 fans permalink

This is further proof that Clinton is a divider, not a uniter. She plays the race card to get Hispanics to vote against Obama cause he's black and she makes women feel guilty for not voting for a woman. But it's nice to see some women aren't falling for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 AM on 02/06/2008

Obama is not dividing the COUNTRY. What numbers are you looking at to come up with such a silly statement???

It seems as if Obama is carrying many state in the Midwest as well as the South. I guess there are tons on "black" people in the Midwest???

How DUMB!

For those who fail to notice the real political trend, here goes, the Republican base will unite against Hillary while Obama continues to have MASS appeal across the country. Of the 2, he stands a greater chance at winning in Nov. (Take a look at the margin of victories between the candidates and one should notice that where Hillary came in 2nd, she tended to be a DISTANT 2nd....hint hint)

(Are Democrats depending on the Hispanic vote to win in Nov.?) If so, McCain will be our next president!

GO OBAMA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 AM on 02/06/2008

We shouldn't dance around this issue too much. Black voters are the most racially motivated voters in America. They vote their skin color more than any other group. 88%! Can that percentage be explained some other way? I don't think so. If so, I'd like to be enlightened.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 02/06/2008

Race And, To A Lesser Extent, Gender Still Divide Dem Race
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Hopefully this will not play into the hands of Republicans, but I fear it will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 02/06/2008

"This suggests a reverse Bradley effect"

Well, I voted Clinton, but she DID win Nevada, so I don't think so. I would say that the most energized voters, as made obvious on this site, prefer Obama 2-1 over Clinton. THey are the ones who show up for caucases. Ditto for Huckabee and Romney in there causas wins.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 02/06/2008
- bauersox I'm a Fan of bauersox 4 fans permalink

One point that nobody has made is that Obama has done well in the caucuses and less well in the primaries where there is a secret ballot.
This suggests a reverse Bradley effect, where people are reticent to declare openly -- as they do in a caucus -- for a white candidate over an African-American candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 02/05/2008

Ummmm....Clinton is winning 2-1 among Latinos and 3-1 among Asian-Americans. But I suppose that does not fit this site's pro-Obama stance. I see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 02/05/2008
- bauersox I'm a Fan of bauersox 4 fans permalink

One point that nobody has made is that Obama has done well in the caucuses and less well in the primaries where there is a secret ballot.

This suggests a reverse Bradley effect, where people are reticent to declare openly -- as they do in a caucus -- for a white candidate over an African-American candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 02/05/2008
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