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White House Defends Use Of Waterboarding

JENNIFER LOVEN | February 6, 2008 04:37 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — The White House on Wednesday defended the use of the interrogation technique known as waterboarding, saying it is legal _ not torture as critics argue _ and has saved American lives. President Bush could authorize waterboarding for future terrorism suspects if certain criteria are met, a spokesman said.

A day earlier, the Bush administration acknowledged publicly for the first time that the tactic was used by U.S. government questioners on three terror suspects. Testifying before Congress, CIA Director Michael Hayden said Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Abu Zubayda and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri were waterboarded in 2002 and 2003.

Waterboarding involves strapping a suspect down and pouring water over his cloth-covered face to create the sensation of drowning. It has been traced back hundreds of years, to the Spanish Inquisition, and is condemned by nations around the world.

Hayden banned the technique in 2006 for CIA interrogations, the Pentagon has banned its employees from using it, and FBI Director Robert Mueller said his investigators do not use coercive tactics in interviewing terror suspects.

Senate Democrats demanded a criminal investigation after Hayden's revelation.

Bush personally authorized Hayden's testimony, White House deputy spokesman Tony Fratto said.

"There's been a lot written out there _ newspaper, magazine articles, some of it misinformation," Fratto said. "And so the consensus was that on this one particular technique that these officials would have the opportunity to address them _ in not just a public setting, but in a setting in front of members of Congress, and to be very clear about how those techniques were used and what the benefits were of them."

Fratto said CIA interrogators could use waterboarding again, but would need the president's approval to do so. That approval would "depend on the circumstances," with one important factor being "belief that an attack might be imminent," Fratto said. Appopriate members of Congress would be notified in such a case, he said.

"The president will listen to the considered judgment of the professionals in the intelligence community and the judgment of the attorney general in terms of the legal consequences of employing a particular technique," he said. "The president will listen to his advisers and make a determination."

Fratto said waterboarding's use in the past was also approved by the attorney general, meaning it was legal and not torture.

Officials fear calling waterboarding torture or illegal could expose government employees to criminal or civil charges or even international war crimes charges.

"Every enhanced technique that has been used by the Central Intelligence Agency for this program was brought to the Department of Justice and they made a determination that its use under specific circumstances and with safeguards was lawful," Fratto said.

Critics say waterboarding has been outlawed under the U.N.'s Convention Against Torture, which prohibits treatment resulting in long-term physical or mental damage. They also say it should be recognized as banned under the U.S. 2006 Military Commissions Act, which prohibits treatment of terror suspects that is described as "cruel, inhuman and degrading." The act, however, does not explicitly prohibit waterboarding by name.

Human Rights Watch, which has been calling on the government to outlaw waterboarding as a form of illegal torture, called Hayden's testimony "an explicit admission of criminal activity."

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Somebody tell me, can anyone reason with a goat?
So people why do you try to reason with "thethinredline" he should simply be red lined and forgotten for the none entity he is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 02/07/2008
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This vile criminal White House stands for torture, lying for the personal gain of their handlers, mass-murder, war crimes, multiple failures in leadership and dragging our once great country through shit in front of the entire world.

And yet, nothing is being done.

Simply pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 02/07/2008

Perhaps we should use waterboarding on Bush and Cheney and see how they bear up. As for Cheney, it would cause his stone cold old ticker to finally give out. As for Bush, well, maybe it would scare him straight! I eagerly await the return of democracy to America, and torture has no place in democracy. This is one case where we should do it to prove a point to this "God-fearing" administration. Waterboard for the love of God!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 02/07/2008

Hi all, USA sues Japan after WW2 for the use of torture techniques such as waterboarding on Americans POWS...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 02/07/2008

If george W Bush shot a baby in the head outside the white house there would still be Republicans supporting him. I have never seen a president do so much harm with so much support. It really has made me lose hope in the Republicans in this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 02/07/2008

ANYONE that believes water-boarding only ever ocurred 3 times ALSO likely 'still' believes in Saddam's WMD.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 02/07/2008


Someone waterboard this asshole president's wife and see how much he agrees then! Little miss goody twoshoes would be a prime candidate to test this on!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 02/07/2008

Look. Waterboarding is illegal under International Treaties to which the US is a party. Once again, this administration has made us into a "rogue nation".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 AM on 02/07/2008

Got'em, they have declared themselves war criminals. If the Dems don't impeach then they are accomplishes. As it is Bush and his ilk will be tried in the Haig.

Sad day for America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 AM on 02/07/2008
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The United States has always been a strong and vocal advocate for human rights here and abroad. As a member of the United Nations, this country helped pass the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Our Constitution espouses human rights. Therefore, how is it possible for the White House to say that waterboarding is legal and should not be considered torture? And to perpetuate this insanity, waterboarding could be used again with presidential approval.

How do we condemn another country that commits heinous acts of torture, incarceration without legal representation, denying its citizenry human rights, when we too are guilty of the same crime? And for those that wish to excuse or rationalize this lapse by saying it was only a small number of individuals, who determines what constitutes a small or acceptable number to torture? For me one is too many.

This country must lead by example. We need to restore not only our self worth as a humane people, but our credibility with the rest of the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 02/06/2008

I like to see just where and when waterboarding " Saved American lives"! I want specifics , not just open vague excuses like you always get from the Boosh White House! America never needed to torture and dosen't need to torture in the 21th century! Having Boosh in office for 7 yrs has been torture enough !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 02/06/2008

Can you believe the arrogance of the criminal Bush regime. They not only finally admit to waterboarding but state they would do it again. These guys are international war criminals and the congress turns a blind eye as most Americans do. This nation is spiritually and morally bankrupt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 02/06/2008

My biggest reservation with Obama is that he lacks the backbone to go after the great criminal in American history, George W. Bush. We so need some to leave the charge to impeach or charge (after his term is over), convict, and execute this mass murdering traitor.

No justice, No peace

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 02/06/2008

By any means, our Constitution, international laws, treaties, civil, legal and human rights opposes the use of cruel, inhumane, treatment of prisoners (domestic, prisoners of war, or so-called "enemy combattants"). Methods utilized to subject a victim to severe pain, mutilation, emotional distress, the deprivation of sleep, water or food is considered TORTURE.
For God's sake, we have laws to protect animals from cruel treatment, and we still as a nation consider vicious treatment of human beings to be justifiable. Torture of any living being is illegal, immoral, and criminal.
Information obtained from such techniques is not reliable, and the end result is not that we are any safer. False information obtained under duress is counterproductive, and the thought that another nation may follow us as a role model, siezing US citizens off planes or streets abroad (or here at home) and detain and torture indefinitely does not instill hope or the feeling of security.
Right now, I fear this administration, which has siezed our government and the agenda that has wrought havoc upon our nation and the world more than I do bin-Laden or any dictator.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 02/06/2008
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Waterboarding is nothing compare to the other unhuman crimes White House has been defending for past 7 years.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 02/06/2008
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