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Obama: Swiftboating Can't Stop Me

CBS   |   February 7, 2008 05:02 PM


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Sen. Barack Obama could withstand any last-minute "swift-boat" attacks from Republicans on his race or past drug use because winning the grueling contest for the Democratic nomination will make him the "toughest, baddest candidate on the block," he tells 60 Minutes correspondent Steve Kroft....

...Asked by Kroft if he will be able to endure attacks from "swift-boating" Republicans who may use his race or his youthful drug use against him, Obama replies, "Whoever wins this Democratic primary...they're the toughest, baddest candidate on the block. And if I beat Senator Clinton, then I will be more than capable of beating the Republicans. And if I don't, then she'll be the nominee and [race or past drug use] will be a moot point."

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- IkeChicago I'm a Fan of IkeChicago 18 fans permalink

Obama is going to have to invest all his capital in the primaries, his supporters only have so much money, he will have to start anew raising money for the general election. McCain will be sitting their waiting for him. Hillary need to be offered an incentive to get out of the way. Hillary can't win form here on out, you know it and I know it, Romney did the right thing, it is time for Hillary to do the right thing if she looses the upcoming primaries. There is no feasible way Hillary could win loosing all these primaries, Obama will split Texas and Ohio, then what.

Another point is that the Dems have a chance for a 61 seat in the senate, Obama could be out stomping for senatorial candidates to achieve that. Does anyone here think that Hillary could stomp for many of these marginal seats. Republicans crossing over will probably like to give Obama the Senate and House that would not block his programs, not so with Hillary, they would want to see a congress that blocks Hillary.

All in all Obama is the future of the Democratic party, he could successfully put it on a different path to success.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 02/08/2008
- ALMAL I'm a Fan of ALMAL 3 fans permalink

McCain ate Ramney in two weeks,there is a lot of time to very slowly chew Obama.

And McCain won't need swiftboaters for help,Obama swiftboated himsalf allready.

He did it first in2002 when he was against the IRAQ war.
Beleev me, antiwar position will sink him fast.

Obama on the ticket,not even TITANIC.

It'll be Small boat with the big hole you know where.

And Clinton won't be the president ,if Obama on ticket,becouse of his antiwar position.

And if you all want to have democrat president,please,give Clinton a little space for manoeuvres to protect her forWAR position.

And for my AA friends,
Can you just forget about the race for a while?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 02/08/2008

67% of the public are against the Republican War in Iraq. Bring it on

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 02/08/2008

Save it VAMTS- ALMAL the troll needs some remedial English education, at the very least. FOX on the tube is the only news he gets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 02/08/2008
- IkeChicago I'm a Fan of IkeChicago 18 fans permalink

You time would be better spent learning English grammar Al Mal. One reason for blogging is to support your candidate's ideas and to debate points of interest in the news. You are capable of neither intellectual endeavor. I would have overlooked your shortcomings and indulge you with a pleasant reply, but I'm afraid I cannot look past your racism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 02/08/2008
- ALMAL I'm a Fan of ALMAL 3 fans permalink

You call people racists,when they against muslim extremism-terrorism,and just asking to look beyond the race.

Antiwar position is to loose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 02/08/2008
- certainot I'm a Fan of certainot 3 fans permalink

Obama WILL be swiftboated if his campaign and his supporters ignore the talk radio monopoly. That's where the real swiftboating is done.

Progressives have been playing politics without a front line and don't know it. They might want to begin recognizing , monitoring, boycotting and protesting relative to their local radio stations, which are the power centers of the Republican party.

Most political and media analysis is done while discounting or even ignoring the effect of the Republican talk radio monopoly. Most media analysts read and watch. there are no talk radio transcripts to search to analyze to demonstrate the power of that coordinated uncontested repetition that reaches 50-70MIL Americans 24/5/365 and is used by the Roves and Norquists like an invisible hammer to whack their opponents in the democratic party and anyone in the media who would dare to criticize their annointed leaders and irrational policies.

Since the Fairness Doctrine was killed by Reagan the GOP has had near complete free rein to frame and control the debate and the limits of the debate, to threaten and intimidate politicians without having to face those they threaten, to censor and to swiftboat anything and anyone progressive. The loudmouths lay out a smorgasbord of prechewed and tested one liners and talking points for the lazy celebrity media to pick from and most analysts only see the final result. Many of the political myths that dog progressives now could not have been created without the uncontested repetition of that talk radio monopoly. The Clintons, Gores, and Kerrys probably still don't know what really hit them. Those kinds of character hit jobs can't be done on TV and print alone, even with today's consolidation-- they have to put up an appearance of balance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 02/08/2008
- Waldimore I'm a Fan of Waldimore 17 fans permalink

certainot, your post is very astute. Too bad people can't see beyond the nose on their face. Progressives, Democrats and Liberals ignore the radio and behave like they are above it all. If Obama supporters really want 'change' let them begin there as you suggested "monitoring, boycotting and protesting relative to their local radio stations." Now that would be very impressive indeed if the so-called younger generation that Obama is attracting did that. It would completely change my mind about Obama. But of course, people say they want change, they just don't want it to begin with them. They want someone else to do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 02/08/2008
- farseer I'm a Fan of farseer 7 fans permalink
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Obama should have some good staffers lined up to counter any character-assassination attempts by opponents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 02/08/2008
- OkieMon I'm a Fan of OkieMon 34 fans permalink

what barockstar is saying is that "swiftboating won't stop me"...in other words there are things in his background that can be swiftboated but he thinks he will overcome them....unfortunately that will not be up to him to determine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 02/08/2008
- OkieMon I'm a Fan of OkieMon 34 fans permalink

how will respond when KKKrove parades out a new crackhead every week saying they bought dope from barockstar?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 02/08/2008
- Sumocat I'm a Fan of Sumocat 36 fans permalink

"Swiftboating" won't stop Obama because, unlike Kerry, he's not incompetent. If Kerry had come out against those ads with confidence, he would have been fine. Something like "Believe what you will, but last I checked, earning two purple hearts and a silver star was still pretty good." Instead, he botched it as usual.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 02/08/2008
- DaRight I'm a Fan of DaRight 6 fans permalink

.....

Obama is right ...He CAN'T be Swiftboated...

He did not spend 3 months in Vietnam....Get 3 Purple Hearts and not miss a single day from the field....

Obama did not come back home and lie about his fellow Vets to the US Congress...

The Swiftboat Veterans for Truth had KERRY'S number....They were there and knew he was a FRAUD!

Kerry was an idiot to run as a war hero...


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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 02/08/2008
- Cowtippin I'm a Fan of Cowtippin 4 fans permalink

regarding the comment made by JohnKemp. You are a dumb asshole. The reason Kerry was swiftboated was because all those throwing stones are pussy's that nevers served this country in war time. So it's morons like you that can't see beyond your own screwed up reality. You should check your facts before posting such crap. You are coward just like all those GOP blabber mouths up on the hill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 02/08/2008
- atlantajoe I'm a Fan of atlantajoe 8 fans permalink

Cowtippin, you are a dumb asshole, the swiftboat veterans for truth were Veterans. Instead of "nevers" served it was served with him. Whether you agree or disagree with that group you cannot say that the swiftboat veterans were not veterans. You call him a moron and tell him to check his facts, Can you name anyone of that group that wrote the book or signed the letter that were not veterans. Moron, how much of a coward is John McCain, he's on the hill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 02/08/2008

veterans, yes. truthful veterans, no. End of story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 02/08/2008

Obama needs a reality check: repugs control the media, not him. He's only been allowed to define himself by the media because the repugs want to run againsta black man who admitted doing cocaine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 02/08/2008
- musselmanm I'm a Fan of musselmanm 21 fans permalink
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This is the time to start hammering the presumptive Republican nominee. This is not the time to be calling either of the Democratic nominees names.
I am not talking swiftfuckin like the Republicans do, I am talking about a 100 year war. No contitutional expertise, no economic expertise, ducking votes about the economic stimulus plan yesterday and so, so, so many more things we Democratic voters by the millions agree on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 02/08/2008
- JohnKemp I'm a Fan of JohnKemp 26 fans permalink

"winning the grueling contest for the Democratic nomination will make him the "toughest, baddest candidate on the block," he tells 60 Minutes correspondent Steve Kroft"

WOW!

This from a charlatan who can't even show up to vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 02/08/2008

He said "whoever" wins the nomination would be that...he didnt say it would be him. He was saying the DEMS would win.

What vote did he miss that upsets you? HRC's precious flag burning bill? Yeah, I can see how that 35 yrs of experience making "real change" has improved MY life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 02/08/2008
- musselmanm I'm a Fan of musselmanm 21 fans permalink
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I think he or she was talking about the vote that the republican nominee missed the other day for the economic stimulus for America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 02/08/2008
- atlantajoe I'm a Fan of atlantajoe 8 fans permalink

John Kemp, Don't be fooled about Obama's toughness, he is on record as saying he will go into Pakistan to get Osama Bin Laden with or without permission. That is what we need, screw them and the UN, we are sending our military in to get the bad guy whether you like it or not!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 02/08/2008
- JohnKemp I'm a Fan of JohnKemp 26 fans permalink

"Being swiftboated" simply means having the truth told about you; as it was told about Kerry's Vietnam "experience."

Obama does share that very Dem defining characteristic, however, going all the way back to FDR (while skipping Truman.)

Dems fear the truth being told about them worse than Dracula feared the cross.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 02/08/2008
- Kally I'm a Fan of Kally 10 fans permalink

IF the MSM would only just post stuff he has done they wouldn't have to swift boat him....The truth would tell the story. I think that's what they are waiting for to see if the corporations can steal the nomination for him.

Then they are going to let all the crap come out...the rezko connections, that haven't been told yet. The Auchi connections that haven't been told yet. The Arab el-moozelulkamock (or how ever the hell you spell his name) The one really running Iraq and taking all the profits. The 1.5 million dollar house with the 300,000 dollar discount bought 6 or 7 months after he was "broke". HIs inability to find the right buttons to push when he is supposed to be voting while in the state senate, or not even showing up to vote in the US senate. And that's just the stuff you don't have to dig for. It's all on the net to find.....just think what the wonderful MSM could find it they just did a little tiny bit of digging.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 02/08/2008
- rich3324 I'm a Fan of rich3324 24 fans permalink
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Being swiftboating means having lies told about you as they were told about Kerry. Americans are sick of this bullshit and woe to the GOP monkeys, backed up by T. Boone Pickens who try this again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 02/08/2008
- ceasenake I'm a Fan of ceasenake 8 fans permalink

Of course not, he hasn't done anything in his life that can be criticized - because he hasn't done anything in his life!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 02/08/2008
- rwe I'm a Fan of rwe 21 fans permalink

except he is the #1 Liberal in Congresss... Yet Hillary is about 16... Will Barry object to Hillary or those Swiftboating Repubs using the 'L' word ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 02/08/2008
- Kally I'm a Fan of Kally 10 fans permalink

You got that right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 02/08/2008
- misterbone I'm a Fan of misterbone 18 fans permalink

"because he hasn't done anything in his life!"

LOL!! He's damn near brought Hillary's campaign to bankruptcy! I'd say that's something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 02/08/2008
- butchie65 I'm a Fan of butchie65 7 fans permalink

Evidently you can't read. There have been numerous posts here telling what he accomplished, you just don't want to hear them. The one that will get Swiftboated will be Hillary. There is so much on her you could write a book. People just don't believe she would do the things she has done. I voted for Bill twice, I never regretted it. Hillary is another story, read you might get educated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 02/08/2008
- Gumby123 I'm a Fan of Gumby123 15 fans permalink
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Don't worry Obama, you can't be swiftboated because you never were in Vietnam. Furthermore, you never repeated over and over again that you were in VIETNAM like Kerry did when he ran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 02/08/2008

Kerry WAS in Vietnam. Bush neglected to SHOW UP for duty.

Kerry's problem is that he was a pansy about defending himself. He ignored the attack when he should have counter attacked with "At least I SHOWED UP". He should have kicked Georgie Porgy AWOL in Alabama in the nuts. Simply said, he wimped out. For cripes sake, neither Bush and Chenny were HUGE chickenhawks. Chenny said "I had other priorities", Kerry was too much of a pussy to capitalize on their OWN STATEMENTS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 02/08/2008
- Kally I'm a Fan of Kally 10 fans permalink

We elected Kerry president, president of the jelly balls club...he is the top of the top. He let bush and rove keeping him dodging and weaving silly ads and then he let them steal the election because he couldn't get enough PB to put on the jelly to stiffen those old balls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 02/08/2008
- atlantajoe I'm a Fan of atlantajoe 8 fans permalink

A kick in the nuts? Is that the way you would handle it manly man?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 02/08/2008
- Waldimore I'm a Fan of Waldimore 17 fans permalink

Kerry is a textbook case of what not to do when swiftboated. By the comments on this thread, the swiftboaters did their job real well. They told lies and people believed them. Kerry got bitch-slapped and did squat. Now one thing I do believe about Obama is that he won't let himself be bitchslapped. He will respond. What I'm afraid of is that in his case, it won't be a lie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 02/08/2008

Obama was too young to go to Nam. He wasn't even born yet in the early 60s.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 02/08/2008
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