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Time Poll: Obama Better Against McCain Than Clinton

Time   |  Michael Duffy   |   February 8, 2008 11:37 AM


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Though the real election is nine months away, Sen. Barack Obama would fare slightly better than Sen. Hillary Clinton in a head to head match-up with Sen. John McCain if the general election were held today, a new TIME poll reveals.

Obama captured 48% of the vote in the theoretical match-up against McCain's 41%, the TIME poll reported, while Clinton and McCain would deadlock at 46% of the vote each. Put another way, McCain looks at the moment to have a narrowly better chance of beating the New York Senator than he does the relative newcomer from Illinois.

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I'm a registered Independent. Want to know what I think? There is something creepy about a Democrat (Billary) who uses Republican tactics to win votes. Hillary voted in the Senate to position herself for a presidential bid. It's SO obvious. That laeves her with ZERO credibility.

Obama will win the independent vote against McCain. End of story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 02/10/2008

I don"t know if the media is giving candidates like Clinton & Huckabee a fair game. They are pushing Obama no matter what and assuming McCain is the sole republican running. Overall I do enjoy the WP editorials.
Also, check out the articles "Red States" and "Latino States" http://savagepolitics.com/?p=78 and "The Numbers Game" http://savagepolitics.com/?p=84 on www.savagepolitics.com. It offers a refreshing/brilliant analysis on voters, what the polls really mean, etc¦ I haven"t seen this type of analysis in a long time. It was about time someone unbiased analyzed the current presidential race!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 02/10/2008

Sen.Clinton is exactly right,

Her campain is The MOVEMENT.

People understand ,what she wants for the country,

They want the same,

She explained,how she'll do it,

people agree with her on this too.

So there is the WILL of people,she represents,
and they gathering aroung her for their future.

THIS IS THE MOVEMENT.

And about Obama.

he sounds like shepherd,preaching to sheeps.

THEY DON"T KNOW,WHAT HE WILL DO,AS A PRESIDENT.

THEY DON'T KNOW ,HOW HE'LL DO IT.

BUT SHEEPS BELIEVE TO SHEPHERD,BECOUSE

SOMETHING IN HIS VOICE IS SO FAMILIAR,

they hear his voce and gather into herd,no metter,where he will bring them,With him it fills like home everywhere he goes.

THIS IS SOME MOVEMENT TOO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 AM on 02/10/2008

The problem is we do know what Hillary will do as president and the majority of Americans want no part of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 02/10/2008

ALMAL, You sound just like SensibleAmerican under a different moniker and you're every bit as arrogant as he/she. I'm 62 years old and having probably been following politics and voting since before you were born. I find it highly insulting to be referred to as a sheep. I will probably vote for Hillary while holding my nose if she gets the nomination but the more I am exposed to posters like you the more I think I might not vote for her. Most of the Hillary supporters on this site do her more harm than good by constantly insulting the intelligence of those who disagree with them and you're a perfect example.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 02/10/2008

I 'm pleased to hear that i woke your curioucity..

And i wish you fullfill your dream to live under Obama,so you'll know ,what he ment speaking about change and hope,becouse right now he cannot explain it ,
just preachs...hopehpehpechengechangegehuhuhhuh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 02/10/2008

Please read www.globalfundforwomen.org. I know I may have sounded harsh with you in the past, but this was not my intention. I as a Hillary supporter and a woman am offended by the idea that people find pleasure in knocking her because of her husband's pursuits and mistakes. Also, I clearly see, even if you don't that the media is abusing their power and instead of questioning her in an intellectual way, they choose to belittle and bash her daughter. If you were a woman, you would understand. I don't really feel that bashing is good for either side, but neither is the negative one-sided treatment she is being handed and we are being force fed. Again, you can choose to disagree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 02/13/2008
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"He's simply winning the liberal and african american vote in a Democratic primary. That's not enough to win in November."

This is the mantra of the Clinton camp.Obama has won lots of white states that are NOT liberal...what's up with that?

Bill Clinton could have written this piece.Anyone who claims to be proud to vote for Hillary cannot be taken seriously..Kos or no Kos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 02/09/2008

This is correct. But he is mainly winning the male and african american vote, which to many reeks of chauvinism and racism. Blacks aren't the only group to have been oppressed in history. I think women may have them beat by a mile or two or three etc..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 AM on 02/10/2008

He won't win. She will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 02/10/2008

Dream on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 02/10/2008

I believe Sen. Obama represents the face of the next Great American Generation.

Just as Roosevelt embodied the "Greatest Generation" of his lifetime; one that defeated both Nazism and Fascism, liberated Europe and built the most prosperous Middle Class the world has ever known, Obama now stands at a pivotal point in American and World history.

It is a point which finds America mired in a seemingly endless war in Iraq; a point where the Middle Class population is losing ground economically; a point where personal political aspirations trump the good of the Nation (on both sides of the aisle); a point where the generational "good will" of the world has turned to outright criticism of America; a point where the once "Almighty Dollar" is quickly exchanged for Euros and a point where this current generation is definitely not better off than the previous.

This generational shift in American and World history demands leadership based not on organizational experience, but on vision.

This moment in history demands not the promise of efficiently running a bureaucracy, but of refocusing its purpose.

This moment demands not the promise to change the political machinery of Washington D.C., but to return it to its rightful owners.

This moment demands not the polarization of races, cultures, religions and civilizations, but the good will unity across common ground.

This moment demands a generational change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 02/09/2008

Poll THIS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 02/09/2008
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Wow. Brilliant work TIME. Next time call me, I'll save you some $$$.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 02/09/2008

I knew you'd bring up money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 02/10/2008

Didn't Arianna suggest not long ago, that we should say NO to pollsters??????? Another hypocritical moment?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 02/09/2008

Well of course Obama will do better against McCain than Clinton! Is anyone (besides Clinton) really thinking otherwise? The whole point of Obama's campaign is to attract independents and moderate republicans (as well as democrats of course). And he has succeeded so far. If Democrats would consider electability more, Obama would be far ahead by now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 02/09/2008
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Maybe I am counting wrong but whats wrong with CNN: From your site.

Popular Votes: February 9th

Clinton - 8,938,660 Delegates - 840 Super delegates - 223 = 1063

Obama - 8,409,728 Delegates - 831 Super delegates - 131 = 962

Obama would need an additional 528,416 votes to get the popular vote.
Obama would need an additional 9 delegates
Obama would need an additional 101 superdelegates.

This does not include: Washington, Nebraska, Louisiana, and upcoming
Keep adding to this tally folks you will see that Obama is not the popular person with majority of voters.

CNN reporters are so biased................

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 02/09/2008

Obama's website has it as 910 Obama to 882 Clinton. But ABCnews says,1118 Clinton, 1095 Obama. Who is doing the math in the Obama camp.???
Clearly not a mathematician!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 AM on 02/10/2008

Let"s hope Democratic voters realize that giving the nomination to Hillary Clinton based on superdelegates (many of whom were appointed to positions by Bill Clinton) would not be good for the party.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday February 09, 2008 shows John McCain (R) leading Hillary Clinton (D) 48% to 42%. Barack Obama (D) leads McCain 45% to 42%.

New polls released today:
Survey of 719 Likely Democratic Primary Voters
February 6-7, 2008
Virginia Democratic Presidential
Barack Obama 55%
Hillary Clinton 37%

Survey of 925 Democratic Primary Voters
February 6, 2007
Maryland Democratic Primary
Barack Obama 57%
Hillary Clinton 31%

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 02/09/2008

torfa; You make sound like if Hillary poll better than Obama it will be reported on the Obamapost now! will it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 02/09/2008

It aleady has been several times. Look it up asshole.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 02/10/2008

Hillary's campaign has been constantly copycating Barack's messages & slogans.

Most recent headline: "HILLARY CALLS HER CAMPAIGN A MOVEMENT"

What a joke!! You'd think with all the high priced political advisors on the Clinton campaign payroll - they could come up with an original thought!!

I'd call Hillary's campaign a "Bowel Movement"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 02/09/2008

Jusus Christ horacekent! The Hope, Dream & Change slogan that Barack is runing on who do you think he stole it from? Remember the one that was born in the town called Hope?.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 02/09/2008

The only bowel movement is the page of attacks on the Obama website launched against the Clinton campaign. If you think this is representative of change or his rhetoric on campaigning as he governs-forcefully, then you my sir are setting yourself up for a real high colonic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 AM on 02/10/2008

Sen.Clinton is exactly right,

Her campain is The MOVEMENT.

People understand ,what she wants for the country,

They want the same,

She explained,how she'll do it,

people agree with her on this too.

So there is the WILL of people,she represents,
and they gasering aroung her for their future.

THIS IS THE MOVEMENT.

And about Obama.

he sounds like shepherd,preaching to sheeps.

THEY DON"T KNOW,WHAT HE WILL DO,AS A PRESIDENT.

THEY DON'T KNOW ,HOW HE'LL DO IT.

BUT SHEEPS BELIEVE TO SHEPHERD,BECOUSE

SOMETHING IN HIS VOICE IS SO FAMILIAR,

they gather aroud him,no metter,where he will bring them,With him it fills like home everywhare he goes.

THIS IS SOME MOVEMENT TOO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 AM on 02/10/2008

gathering

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 AM on 02/10/2008

In my opinion, the Clintons are politically filthy. Nothing is beneath them & they will say & do anything to win. Should they win, they will come into the White House with 20+ years of political favors to payback & lobbyist to please.

Why can't we make a clean break & fresh start?

I know why the Clintons are fighting to gain & retain power. I think Bill is terrified of being eclipsed by Barack - prior to Obama, many saw Bill as the most charismatic leader, capable of communicating & connecting with people in a way, not seen for a longtime. Compared to Obama, Bill looks quite ordinary.

Do we really want to have to look at, hear & deal with the Clintons again? What's wrong with us? Don't we feel worthy of going for something so much better? The Clintons are filthy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 02/09/2008

What credential do you have to make such statement? What make you predict that only the Clintons will payback lobbyst?

I thought that it's what politic is all about. Do you think that Obama will put in place people he has no relationship with, coming from nowhere?

The best example of what his behavior with Antoin Rezko. So if you think one minute that Obama will not payback his friends one he is elected, you are living in a dreamland.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 02/09/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 02/09/2008

The pledge that Billary has refused to take (although every other Democratic candidate has):
"We are Americans, and in our America we do not torture, we do not imprison people without charge or legal remedy, we do not tap people"s phones and emails without a court order, and above all we do not give any President unchecked power. I pledge to fight to protect and defend the Constitution from attack by any President."
She wants those unchecked powers. Who you gonna vote for?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 02/10/2008

Joracekent! Why don't you tell us what Barack did during the years he's been in politics. How many slums Lords he was down with while working in the rural area of Chicago for the 8 months he served the poor. And what can of filthy deals he make when he was illinios senator ---- any wonder why he can't find all his records?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 02/09/2008

You ignorant person! Go to both websites see and read for yourself, learn to discern fact from fiction. Obama seems to even be hell bent on changing our flag--look at the site. And he claims that the comments made about him with respect to not saluting the flag are lies?? Pleeze the lie is the one his camp is perpetuating that her camp started the lie. He only swears on "his personal bible" ???Do you know how many versions of the bible there are??? He believes in campaigning as he governs--forcefully??? This is change??? "disavow middleclassness comes from scripture." This is change??? Are you on DRUGS?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 AM on 02/10/2008

No, but you apparently are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 02/10/2008

Right, and I'm supposed to believe this MSM poll WHY?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 02/09/2008

Forget the pundit-desired intra-party battle: start the campaign for the Presidency against the presumptive Republican nominee McCain right now!
We've seen Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton debating and campaigning against each other for nearly a year. They both acknowledge their policies differences are slight, but they both have enormous differences with the Republican candidates. Why not take this golden opportunity to show the voters in the remaining primary states how each candidate will campaign for the Presidency itself against the Republicans. This is a new way, a new data point, for Barack and Hillary to display any differences they might have, campaign style, without having to go after each other.
It helps the party by promoting a sense of unity instead of playing into the media chorus for a schism. It improves the Democratic message by yielding two simultaneous and powerful voices against the Republican machine. And it puts the Republican presumptive nominee in a more difficult position by having to battle not one candidate, but two.
Many have been trying to convince the Democrats that not having a nominee by now puts us at a disadvantage, but nothing could be further from the truth. The Democrats are actually an enviable position. Add to this the fact that John McCain needs to spend the next several weeks to months moving to the right to shore up his base, thus making him an even easier target for the Democratic candidates, and Democrats can comfortably realize they should all be thrilled they have two potent candidates still actively on their side.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 02/09/2008
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