On The Inconsistency Of Opprobrium

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First Posted: 02-11-08 06:55 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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David Shuster

Of all the members of the media to find themselves at the center of attention, it's a little hard to believe that MSNBC's David Shuster has become the flashpoint of ire and controversy. Shuster's been one of the more innocuous reporters on the campaign trail, driving far fewer MediaMatters alerts than many of his ilk - especially some of his colleagues as MSNBC! (Chris Matthews, I'm looking at you!)

But Shuster's the headliner over at David Brock's site, now, having used the word "pimp" in relation to Chelsea Clinton's role in her mother's campaign. To be sure, Shuster has something to answer for - his contention that Chelsea Clinton's involvement in her mother's campaign was somehow unseemly is just dead, flat, wrong. There's nothing that Chelsea's doing now for her mother that political offspring haven't done in the past. George W. Bush's daughters, Jenna and Barbara, spoke at the Republican National Convention. John McCain's daughter Meghan coordinates and contributes to a campaign blog. Chelsea's work is comparatively behind-the-scenes, and in bounds.

In other words, the stronger case against Shuster is the one that can be made on the merits. His analysis of Chelsea Clinton's role was just way off the mark and comparatively unfair. Yet, the world remains fixated on this word, "pimp." And to some, it's going to seem a trifle silly. Fact is, I'll cop right now to using the word "pimp" a good deal - typically, as a slangy way of saying "promote." But I can't let Shuster off the hook that easy. The truth is, I've found myself in front of audiences that I knew wouldn't receive that word well, and I've been cagey enough to avoid using it.

Still, there's a curious calculus at work in the reaction of the Clinton campaign. Perhaps it's just about Chelsea. In her letter to Steve Capus, Clinton mentions that she "will always be a mom first and a public official second." And there's nothing wrong with that. But after what appears to be a call for Shuster to be fired over his remark, Clinton adds, "I would urge you to look at the pattern of behavior on your network that seems to repeatedly lead to this sort of degrading language."

Indeed. What's puzzling is that when it comes to "degrading language," on MSNBC, it's hardly Shuster who deserves to be hung out on a line. In the first place, when you compare this incident to Chris Matthews' sustained period of misogyny and idiocy - his constant harping on the "gender card," his insinuation that Clinton owes her career to her husband's philandering, a season of commentary that brought a protest to his doorstep - Shuster's remark pales in comparison.

Secondly, I doubt that even Hillary Clinton truly believes that Shuster literally meant to suggest that her campaign was turning out her daughter to perform sex acts. Compare that to Roger Stone, a frequent guest of MSNBC's Tucker Carlson (who unfailingly refers to Stone as a "legendary Republican strategist"). Stone's biggest contribution to this election cycle has been the creation of an anti-Hillary group called "Citizen's United Not Timid," whose acronym...well, you can spell. It's the sine qua non of "degrading" language, and unlike Shuster, Stone quite literally means it. What's more, he's proud of it.

None of this excuses Shuster. As I've said before, Chelsea Clinton's role in her mother's campaign is strategic and specific, but entirely fair and above board. Still, the amplification of the opprobrium - and the call for Shuster to lose his livelihood over this - just doesn't seem to fit the crime. The last time Hillary Clinton and Chris Matthews encountered each other publicly, her interactions with Matthews were quite cordial, and to my knowledge, the Clinton campaign has not made a stink over Roger Stone's involvement with the network, despite his grinning, gleeful embrace of the most misogynist of vulgarities.

It's all a bit difficult to figure out. Maybe it's the mom factor. Maybe Shuster threw the straw that finally broke the camel's back. Maybe Clinton only feels comfortable swinging at low-hanging fruit. One thing's for sure, the incident is sure to incline people toward treating Chelsea Clinton with a considerable amount of sympathy. And what's her role been on the campaign trail? Speaking to the democratic superdelegates. And who is it that could decide the nomination?

What can we say? Well played.

Of all the members of the media to find themselves at the center of attention, it's a little hard to believe that MSNBC's David Shuster has become the flashpoint of ire and controversy. Shuster's bee...
Of all the members of the media to find themselves at the center of attention, it's a little hard to believe that MSNBC's David Shuster has become the flashpoint of ire and controversy. Shuster's bee...
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- Suprshrink I'm a Fan of Suprshrink 6 fans permalink

Hillary did not call for his termination. She called for MSNBC to tone down the rhetoric. MSNBC has been clearly slanted against Hillary and I think it has become so apparent and so expected that Shuster just joined in on the "fun." All of the MSNBC commentators and journalists who have engaged in this type of act should be terminated -- not just Shuster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 02/12/2008
- Dari I'm a Fan of Dari 15 fans permalink
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On David Shuster and MSNBC becoming Shustered:
(emailed to all NBC & MSNBC execs)

The real shame of it is, as poorly thought out as Shuster's question/remark was, he is the real victim of this entire mess! He is the latest in a L O N G line of people to be "used" in order for the Clintons' to receive media attention for, yet again, being "victimized". It is noteworthy that Monica Lewinsky was younger than Chelsea Clinton is now when former President Clinton had his dalliance with her (Google her to see how she is faring Post-Clinton).

There is truth in the old cliche: If you can't stand the heat, then, stay out of the kitchen.

Senator Clinton in her letter to MSNBC stated, I am a mother first and a candidate second.

Mr. Shuster APOLOGIZED which is MORE than Senator Clinton has ever done for her vote for the Iraq war.

I think that it is important to note Senator Clinton has NEVER apologized for her war vote to ALL the mothers whose adult children are NO LONGER ALIVE to be "called names".

I use the term "Shustered" to note that MSNBC no longer reports on anything that could be construed as controversial about Senator Clinton; in fear of not getting Clinton to sign on for one of the two debates with MSNBC. Your company, is instead, gagging or pandering to Senator Clinton's victimization from two of your companys reporters/pundits.

This morning, on Morning Joe, I was disturbed to see that show being "Shustered". The guest was a political fact checker, AND checked on only 3 of the 4 candidates in the race for the Presidency. You fact checked Obama, McCain and Mike Huckabee.

Senator Clinton has re-started her smear innuendos (Exelon and Rezko) in her interview last night with WJLA (ABC) last night, it becomes important that fact checking is done on ALL of the candidates. To do less, IS pandering, lacks journalistic integrity and MSNBC and their advertisers will lose both my respect and my business for allowing themselves to be "Shustered".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 02/12/2008
- argent1 I'm a Fan of argent1 16 fans permalink

It used to be that if a woman was called a whore she could sue for the remark. It would be up to the defendant to produce the evidence of such a claim, or pay up. By the rules of scripture such a claim would get her stoned to death.
It's not the Clinton's who took care of Shuster it is the MSNBC chicken pluckers who find here and there a foul feather and toss the whole bird aside for it. I do think the women who are employed at the network are pleased, as they, being on cable, can use the word "prick", but are not seduced by it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 02/11/2008
- awb I'm a Fan of awb 10 fans permalink

and this morning Chelsea Clinton had breakfast with a 21 year old super delegate from Wisconsin --

David Shuster used the wrong word - but that doesn't mean he was wrong

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 02/11/2008
- mamamay I'm a Fan of mamamay 3 fans permalink

We get it already. Hill can tell Chris, that men are obsessed with her, and goes over and gives him a hug. This is okay. Dont fire Chris. Yet, when David S speaks about a person, her 27yr old daughter, the one who goes between but on behalf ofher mom,to the S delegates, for the purpose of getting these delegates for her mom; Hil writes a letter to get him fired. What's up with this? It a low time here and it's recession time, why does she want DS reprimanded? This is the game Hil plays when things aren't going her way. She would cut off the HC of an Elder if she didn't get her way. Chelsea is not a young child. David was doing his job,he gave anOPINION for xsakes.
What about the promise of 2nd chances? Give DS another chance, Write a letter to forgive, and forget, and let's leave these folks behind. Vote Obama in 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 02/11/2008
- LeoMarvin I'm a Fan of LeoMarvin 35 fans permalink
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"It's all a bit difficult to figure out."

Not really. Politics is opportunistic. "Pimp" gave the Clintons an opportunity to express outrage that could have seemed over-the-top, responding to more substantively objectionable, less sensational commentary. No one would expect them to pass it up. Frankly, as an Obama supporter, I'm sure he'd have found a way to use something like that to his advantage too. Of course he'd have been subtler about it....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 02/11/2008

EVERYONE knows the p word wasn't about sex. It was about the bizarre, new role Chelsea is starring in. Sure, other presidential children "hustle" for their parents but we saw Chelsea grow up as the protected one, the shy one, the Clinton we saw but never heard, the insider who wouldn't give an interview to a little girl reporting for her middle school paper.

Let's face it, it's weird to hear that the mute, voiceless Chelsea called the cast of The View asking them to vote for her mom. It's very weird to watch this former Whitehouse child, who was so vigilantly protected from paparazzi like she had severe allergies to them, placed like a trophy in front of crowd after crowd of strangers and..papar­azzi.

Okay, the p word was not a wise choice, but it begged the question, did Chelsea have a major personality change... or what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 02/11/2008
- AKJM I'm a Fan of AKJM 18 fans permalink
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I stopped watching MSNBC. I'm waiting till KO gives "The Worst Person in the World" award to the spineless wonder who suspended Shuster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 02/11/2008

If you stopped watching MSNBC, how would know if Keith Olbermann did you wishes?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 02/11/2008
- Plus15 I'm a Fan of Plus15 5 fans permalink

Shuster should not have used the "pimp" word however he was of course using it in it's current more casual not sexual usage. The back and forth conversation on the cable news shows has a certain aura of flying without a net. All we need now is a 5 second delay on news shows. Hillary's continuing complaint and the suspension of Shuster as a result is not only an overreaction it's a shot over the bough of all the talking heads a dire warning and it's chilling.

When Bill Clinton entered the White House the Clintons requested and were appropriately granted protection for Chelsea from the political infighting. It is now many years later and Chelsea is a grown up young woman out of college and into a career. The same protection she was given as a child, preteen, teen and college student is no longer overarchingly appropriate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 02/11/2008

I can see it now. David Shuster fired for innappropriate "pimp" comment about Chelsea Clinton. But Bush, Cheney and friends walk scott free. That about wraps up the last 7 years in a nutshell!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 02/11/2008
- LeoMarvin I'm a Fan of LeoMarvin 35 fans permalink
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Once? No problem. Twice? Not unusual. Three times? Maybe you REALLY want to make a point, so OK, we'll look the other way. Four times? Definitely annoying. Five times? You make the same comment five consecutive times? Get a grip. Seriously.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 02/11/2008

I can see it now. David Shuster fired for innappropriate "pimp" comment about Chelsea Clinton. But Bush, Cheney and friends walk scott free. That about wraps up the last 7 years in a nutshell!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 02/11/2008

I can see it now. David Shuster fired for innappropriate "pimp" comment about Chelsea Clinton. But Bush, Cheney and friends walk scott free. That about wraps up the last 7 years in a nutshell!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 02/11/2008

I can see it now. David Shuster fired for innappropriate "pimp" comment about Chelsea Clinton. But Bush, Cheney and friends walk scott free. That about wraps up the last 7 years in a nutshell!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 02/11/2008

I can see it now. David Shuster gets fired for "pimp" comment about Chelsea Clinton. Bush, Cheney, KKKarl Rove, David Addington, Scooter and others walk scott free? The last 7 years in a nutshell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 02/11/2008

You're right to write that Chelsea is free to campaign. Just agree that she can no longer be protected from the press by her mom and dad if she does. You don't get it both ways. This doesn't excuse the words Shuster used, but niether does it excuse a witch hunt against him, or MSNBC either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 02/11/2008

Come to think of it, didn't the Democratic party forgive Mr. Clinton for a lot worse?

I'd say "Get a life!"

But that wouldn't be politically useful, would it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 02/11/2008

I can see it now. David Shuster fired for innappropriate "pimp" comment about Chelsea Clinton. But Bush, Cheney and friends walk scott free. That about wraps up the last 7 years in a nutshell!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 02/11/2008
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