Executions May Be Carried Out at Gitmo

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MICHAEL MELIA and ANDREW O. SELSKY | February 12, 2008 11:29 PM EST | AP

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This undated file photo provided by ABC News shows Waleed bin Attash. Bin Attash, a Yemeni portrayed as an al-Qaida operative and a member of a terrorist family, confessed to plotting the bombings of the USS Cole and two U.S. embassies in Africa, killing hundreds, according to a Pentagon transcript of a Guantanamo Bay hearing, released Monday March 19, 2007. The Pentagon has charged bin Attash and five other detainees at Guantanamo Bay with murder and war crimes in connection with the Sept. 11 terror attacks, and officials said Monday Feb. 11, 2008, the United States will seek the death penalty. (AP Photo/ABC News)

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico — If six suspected terrorists are sentenced to death at Guantanamo Bay for the Sept. 11 attacks, U.S. Army regulations that were quietly amended two years ago open the possibility of execution by lethal injection at the military base in Cuba, experts said Tuesday.

Any executions would probably add to international outrage over Guantanamo, since capital punishment is banned in 130 countries, including the 27-nation European Union.

Conducting the executions on U.S. soil could open the way for the detainees' lawyers to go to U.S. courts to fight the death sentences. But the updated regulations make it possible for the executions to be carried out at Guantanamo.

David Sheldon, an attorney and former member of the Navy's legal corps, said an execution chamber at Guantanamo would be largely beyond the reach of U.S. courts.

"I think that's the administration's idea, to try to use Guantanamo as a base to not be under the umbrella of the federal district courts," he said. "If one is detained in North Carolina or South Carolina in a Navy brig, one could conceivably file a petition of habeas corpus and because of where they're located, invoke the jurisdiction of a federal court."

The condemned men could even be buried at Guantanamo. A Muslim section of the cemetery at Guantanamo has been dedicated by an Islamic cultural adviser, said Bruce Lloyd, spokesman for the Guantanamo Naval Station. Among those buried elsewhere at the cemetery are U.S. servicemen.

"A small area of the cemetery has been fenced off and remains ready for the burial of any Muslim who may die here and not be repatriated to another country, for whatever reason," Lloyd told The Associated Press.

When two Saudis and a Yemeni committed suicide at Guantanamo in 2006, military officers said the men could be buried at the cemetery, but the remains were instead sent back to their homelands.

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Up until recently, experts on military law said, it was understood that military regulations required executions to be carried out by lethal injection at Fort Leavenworth in Kansas.

But in January 2006, the Army changed its procedures for military executions, allowing "other locations" to be used. The new regulations say that only the president can approve an execution and that the secretary of the Army will authorize the location.

"Military executions will be by lethal injection," the regulations say.

The last U.S. military execution was in 1961, when President Kennedy signed off on the hanging of Army Pfc. John A. Bennett for the rape and attempted murder of an 11-year-old Austrian girl.

Brig. Gen. Thomas W. Hartmann refused to discuss details on executions when he announced Monday the Pentagon was charging the six Guantanamo detainees and seeking the death penalty.

"We are a long way from determining the details of the death penalty, and when that time comes ... we will follow the law at that time and the procedures that are in place," Hartmann said.

Eugene Fidell, a Washington defense attorney and expert on military law, said Guantanamo Bay could be an execution site, but added that the U.S. would face an international outcry.

"It would be highly controversial because a lot of the world simply doesn't believe in the death penalty any more," Fidell said.

The Bush administration has instructed U.S. diplomats abroad to defend its decision to seek the death penalty for the six men by recalling the executions of Nazi war criminals after World War II.

A four-page cable sent to U.S. embassies and obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press says that execution as punishment for extreme violations of the laws of war is internationally accepted.

The cable points to the 1945-46 Nuremberg war crimes trials in Germany. Twelve of Adolf Hitler's senior aides were sentenced to death at the trials, though not all were executed in the end.

No death chamber is known to exist at Guantanamo, but Scott Silliman, a former Air Force lawyer and who is now a Duke University professor, said the military may decide to build one there. The 2006 Army regulations also call for a viewing room to the death chamber, where at least two news media representatives would be witnesses.

The trial for the six detainees is still months away. And given the slow pace of the military commissions at Guantanamo Bay, verdicts are unlikely before President Bush leaves office next January.

The accused include Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of Sept. 11; Mohammed al-Qahtani, whom officials have labeled the 20th hijacker; and Waleed bin Attash, who investigators say selected and trained some of the 19 hijackers.

Many support the use of the death penalty for men blamed for the Sept. 11 attacks.

"If these guys are found guilty, I can't think of any other case more appropriate for the death penalty," said Charles "Cully" Stimson, a senior legal fellow at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. "An overwhelming majority of Americans support the death penalty."

Michael Khambatta of the International Committee of the Red Cross said his organization would approve the death penalty only when there are "procedural and judicial guarantees that meet international standards."

Khambatta, who is the deputy head of the ICRC's Washington delegation, declined to comment publicly on whether the ICRC considers the U.S. war-crimes trials fair.

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U.S. Army execution procedures: http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/r190_55.pdf

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico — If six suspected terrorists are sentenced to death at Guantanamo Bay for the Sept. 11 attacks, U.S. Army regulations that were quietly amended two years ago open the poss...
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico — If six suspected terrorists are sentenced to death at Guantanamo Bay for the Sept. 11 attacks, U.S. Army regulations that were quietly amended two years ago open the poss...
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- Nova16 I'm a Fan of Nova16 34 fans permalink

The next trial should include the Bush/Cheney crime against the American people for gross negligence and dereliction of duty and responsiblity to defend and protect the citizens of this country due to an attack on 9/11 with ample warnings to the airlines, a briefing on the activities and goals of al Qaida and a PDB specifically warning of an attack by bin Laden. Following this disgrace they further increased their criminal activities with illegitimate warfare, torture and propaganda which were crimes also committed by the Nazis for which they paid for their lives. Now, who wants lemonade?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 02/13/2008
- Ammobob I'm a Fan of Ammobob 36 fans permalink

Riiiiight! It's DA BUUUUUUUUUUUUSH! It's all ILLEGAL! Will anyone prosecute these CRIMINALS?! Get a life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 02/13/2008

Tommy Franks said it first -- but others have evidently sprung up to replace the lamented Mr. Feith.

Has Cheney-Bush really been taken over by the propaganda arm of al-Qaida?

It will be interesting indeed to see how this plays out during the campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 AM on 02/13/2008

from toronto, canada

I didn't think I could hate your government more - now I see how foolish I was. Oh and the wannabe killers on this board are a disgrace to humanity. You are becoming as hateful and hateable as Nazi Germany...

You just engender hate - it's all you really do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 AM on 02/13/2008

hamilton canada here....there has never been a more incompetent and corrupt american government. bush should be hung by his genitals along side any other convicted killer at gitmo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 AM on 02/13/2008
- Ammobob I'm a Fan of Ammobob 36 fans permalink

Awwwwww, we'll miss your participation in our great democracy, too. Please stay in your own loosely nit country and WHINE up there about something, anything....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 02/13/2008
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You are one whiny little Fuck Bob, give it a rest

I think most people want to see the people behind 911 tried and convicted. Especially the Americans who were involved, not just the Arab patsies. It will never happen, because the real planners are the ones carrying out the investigation. I'm sure that most of the torturing was geared towards finding out if anyone else knew anything. If only the Kennedy assassins had had that luxury. This crime was much better thought out. PNAC had lots of time to plan it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 02/13/2008

Awwwwww, we'll miss your participation in our great democracy, too. Please stay in your own loosely nit country and WHINE up there about something, anything



can you say "free health care" bob. bob, you are the typical snivelling american, no one listens to you bob, you don't have anything intelligent to say. now lay down and lick yourself, like you do everyday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 02/13/2008

They are not US. In fact we strongly suggest all others review the influence these Multi national conglomerates have in your country too.
WE've been High jacked, possibly the last great country to fall under their regime .
As a MI'er I know the Big 3 has theri hands around your balls too. How's the alterntive fuel in your country- how's those gas prices...Thank the Big three for selling ou your country too. This bullshit knows no boundries and has no allegience to anything but the profit margin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 02/13/2008
- eej I'm a Fan of eej 8 fans permalink

Nazi Germany - apt comparison.

We hate our government also. Apologies, Canada, for letting this happen. Many of us tried to prevent it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 02/13/2008

We hate our government also. Apologies, Canada, for letting this happen. Many of us tried to prevent it.



american seem to be more outraged over brittany than the slaughter of women and babies in iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 02/13/2008
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 292 fans permalink
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Nazis. I hate those guys.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 02/13/2008
- MTGradwell I'm a Fan of MTGradwell 4 fans permalink

This is what you get if you don't impeach.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 AM on 02/13/2008
- eej I'm a Fan of eej 8 fans permalink

Impeachment was possible when Kucinich was in the running. Now everyone in charge has other priorities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 02/13/2008
- boomer1949 I'm a Fan of boomer1949 44 fans permalink
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Sure -- why not? It's the best way to eliminate any evidence of waterboarding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 AM on 02/13/2008
- actcochise I'm a Fan of actcochise 7 fans permalink
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You can be sure that the evidence they are trying to bury along with these men goes way beyond waterboarding!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 02/13/2008
- Macready I'm a Fan of Macready 64 fans permalink

this is totally illegal I am sure of it . . . this administration must be held accountable . . . pelosi is aiding and abetting this corrupt regime by refusing to put impeachment on the agenda . . . the US has repeatedly violated the Geneva Convention and has engaged in the illegal detention, torture and now execution of individuals without due process of law . . . so much for American democracy . . . and let us not forget how this regime got in . . . rigged elections . . . our democracy is rotting away and pelosi and reid are letting it happen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 AM on 02/13/2008
- HBeachbum I'm a Fan of HBeachbum 11 fans permalink

You are such a great legal mind. These animals are not protected by the Geneva Conventions which apply only to uniformed armies. Go cry in your latte about your stupid conspiracy theories.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 02/13/2008
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 157 fans permalink

The news that there may someday be criminal trials makes the attacks against the U.S. in 2001 sound like the criminal activity that they were.

The attacks were not organised by any nation-state. No nation-state was even aware that they were going to happen, unless one wants to count the intelligence agencies of some Western countries.
Therefore, the attacks on and subsequent occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq were unjustified. The Afghani government, like the Pakistani government, were guilty of harboring al Qaeda cells. Neither country gave the U.S. the right to go after terrorists within their borders. It is of at least passing interest that the Taliban government offered to either try him themselves, or hand over bin Laden to a third country for trial if they were given some proof linking him to the 9/11 attacks, but this was rejected by Bush.

The U.S. could have used its own troops to destroy the criminal terrorist camps in Afghanistan, principally in the Tora Bora region, without first bringing down the government and then occupying the whole country. It has been claimed by the U.S. government that bringing down the Taliban was justified, and that the U.S. had the right to make that decision.

The invasion and occupation of Iraq was illegal according to international law, immoral, and even illogical. Millions of Iraqis have subsequently fled their own country, hundreds of thousands are dead because of decisions made by the U.S., and their country is in a complete shambles, with even basic services seldom available. The consequences for the U.S. have been far less severe, but even so, the thousands of dead American soldiers and contractors, the drain on the U.S. economy, and the tens of thousands of physically and psychologically injured soldiers are indeed signifigant.

Six conspirators will be charged and tried, which is what we should have been attempting to achieve from day one. How and why did what should have been essentially a glorified police action turn into a war in two countries?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 AM on 02/13/2008
- Uselessboy I'm a Fan of Uselessboy 12 fans permalink

Why? Because the Soviet half of the Cold War had disappeared and the American half needed a mission.

People were beginning to ask questions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 AM on 02/13/2008
- nomoredead I'm a Fan of nomoredead 12 fans permalink

Bingo! Gotta have a boogey man to keep that defense spending up and distract joe6pack from the theft by corporate america.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 02/13/2008
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whatever happened to the process of a REAL INVESTIGATION?? Not the FALSE 9/!! COMMISSION REPORT!

NO! What about a fair trial?

This is why Bush and Co. MUST be made accountable for everything that happened since September THE 11th, 2 THOUSAND AND ONE.... 9/!! ....
Wake up people!!! The IRONY will have it that Obama will end up exonerating Osama of all crimes and executing BUSH, CHENEY and CO. down in TEXAS the execution STATE of CHOICE for their high treason, mass murders and war crimes... all in the name of corporate and oil profit....

YES WE CAN!

BUT WAIT! Let's COMPLAIN ABOUT THE INVESTIGATIONS AND TRIALS OF THE EVENTS OF November THE 22nd, 19 THOUSAND AND 63...

YES WE CAN!

But wait... Let's....

YES WE CAN!

and.....

YES WE CAN!

and.....

YES WE CAN!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 AM on 02/13/2008
- eej I'm a Fan of eej 8 fans permalink

For that we needed Kucinich in the White House.

At least he's still active as a Congressman. The neocons are trying hard to get rid of him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 02/13/2008
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To all military personal who think they escape judgement, because they wear the uniform and follow orders. You are as evil as bush, cheney and the rest of the devils. You carry out your orders so comely, so professionally. Its a great possibility the people you have imprisoned and tortured, are innocent. You maybe helping these traitors bush, cheney and the rest, coverup their rolls in the deceptions surrounding 9-11.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 AM on 02/13/2008
- vinny I'm a Fan of vinny 103 fans permalink
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destroy the evidence before the dems take over...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 AM on 02/13/2008
- amanda85 I'm a Fan of amanda85 108 fans permalink

All democratic countries abhor the death penalty and have abolished it for at least several decades. Dictatorships, fascist and communist countries, however, still retain it. The US is more similar to Iran than most Americans imagine... (check another similarity: religiosity levels.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 AM on 02/13/2008

I no....we more than just imagine it!!! We live it...its been a hellish eight years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 02/13/2008
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Cripes, there isn't even a trial date and the headlines are about executions?
This rush to judgement is shameful!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 AM on 02/13/2008
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If this happens shame on America.If they are really guilty and not just some scapegoats, then life without parole would be justified

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 02/13/2008
- amanda85 I'm a Fan of amanda85 108 fans permalink

The problem is that the US government doesn't want these people to talk and say things that can make people go a-ha! Better kill them without giving them any opportunity to meet with lawyers, the press etc.

Expect kangaroo trials.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 02/13/2008
- eej I'm a Fan of eej 8 fans permalink

If they really wanted to punish these guys they would give them life without parole, and deny them martyrdom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 02/13/2008

I wonder just how much Bush and Cheney would love the death penalty if it was handed to them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 02/13/2008

Maybe Cheney will make another trip to the Tower of London to get some ideas on what method of execution to use. I believe the Tower was very helpful in selecting methods of torture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 AM on 02/13/2008
- eej I'm a Fan of eej 8 fans permalink

I'm sure they'll have this filmed and watch it before the CIA destroys the tapes.

It was unbearably tasteless the way they exploited Saddam's execution. All the while sanitizing what we see of our soldiers in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 02/13/2008
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