Clinton, Obama Launch Negative Ads

Sen. Hillary Clinton is "scrambling" to stave off a defeat in Wisconsin, AP reports, and has launched her first negative TV ad hitting Obama for not debating her in the state.

The ad "begun Wednesday asks why Obama hasn't joined her in accepting an invitation to debate at Marquette University. 'Maybe he'd prefer to give speeches than have to answer questions,' the narrator says before claiming that only her health care plan covers everyone and only her economic plan freezes mortgage foreclosures." Watch it:

The Politico is reporting a new edge to Hillary's rhetoric:

"There is a big difference," she said. "I am in the solutions business, my opponent is in the promises business."

"We need real results, not more rhetoric. We need to get back in the solutions business. That's why I have a plan that will cover every American with health insurance, stop these foreclosures and put people back to work," she said, adding that she and edwards agreed on need for moratorium on foreclosures, while Obama doesn't.

"It's not the questions, it's the answers, and the answers get right to the heart of who is ready on day one to be the president and commander in chief of the United States."

"I have solutions to these economic challenges. The question today is does Sen. Obama? Because a plan that fails to provide universal healthcare, fails to address the housing crisis and fails to immediately start creating good paying jobs in America again, will not turn the economy around and provide the real relief that our people need," she said.

Meanwhile, Barack Obama has released a mailer in Ohio hitting Clinton on NAFTA. But the literature uses a quote that has been widely criticized as bogus.

It's not a direct quote from Clinton, but a paraphrase from a September 2006 article in Newsday -- "Clinton thinks NAFTA has been a boon to the economy, but voted against the Central American-Dominican Republic Free Trade Agreement, saying it would drive jobs offshore." No evidence has surfaced that Clinton ever claimed that NAFTA was a "boon."

Comments

[naturesway]

If you want Obama's health plan do you still have to buy the insurance? My friend is diabetic, heart problems. She has money but she won't pay insurance cause she doesn't want to spend the money on it.And the emergency room is easier. Let everyone else pay, she says.~~~~~­~~~~~~~~~N­o body would insure her anyway... Too many pre-existing conditions. So she uses the emergency room like a doctor's office. Lots of people do.I guess Obama has a plan for that? How will it work?I read his whole plan on his policies and it didn't get into anything like that.I heard there would be a big fine? How big? Then do you have to buy insurance?It's a pretty fuzzy plan.

[williamg]

Obviously you are very upset with Obama's plan, because you keep cutting a pasting the same phony story over, and over again. Feel free to vote for McCain, if that is what makes you happy, because Bill and Hillary's campaign is toast. Do you honestly feel she can win the remaining states by 25% each? If so, keep trolling for your candidates. If you realize that it is impossible, make a choice between Obama or McCain. Choice is yours.

Oh yeah, great job she did on health care in 94. That plan got exactly "0" people health insurance.

[naturesway]

I do notice that the biggest Obama supporters can not answer even these simple questions concerning policy.
Sure, insults and posturing prove alot.
Can you answer my questions on Obama policy...

Waiting... Hmmmmmmmmm. I thought not.

[thepathforward]

Quoting President Bill Clinton, Sept. 14, 1993 in signing the NAFTA Agreements, “I believe that NAFTA will create 200,000 American jobs in the first two years of its effect. I believe if you look at the trends -- and President Bush and I were talking about it this morning -- starting about the time he was elected president, over one-third of our economic growth, and in some years over one-half of our net new jobs came directly from exports. And on average, those export-related jobs paid much higher than jobs that had no connection to exports. I believe that NAFTA will create a million jobs in the first five years of its impact. And I believe that that is many more jobs than will be lost, as inevitably some will be as always happens when you open up the mix to a new range of competition”.
Remember those famous words and red flags raised by Ross Perot regarding this NAFTA agreement, “NAFTA will cause a giant sucking sound as jobs go south”. Guess ‘ol Ross was probably right.
So when particularly Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania vote in the upcoming Dem primaries, I do hope they are introspective about how things are going in their States regarding the first Clinton trade plan, and the subsequent loss of millions of formerly good, quality US jobs and the formerly strong manufacturing base exiting their States and the country. IMO the voters there should carefully consider the risks of another Clinton vote.
Don’t believe that NAFTA, etc. have had detrimental affects on US jobs and manufacturing? The US Census Bureau statistics for US trade “deficits” (i.e. more foreign imports than US exports) from 1992-2007 in billions $, goods not seasonally adjusted, was approximately:
1992-85, '93-115,'9­4-151,'95-­159,'96-17­0,'97-180,­'98-230,'9­9-329,2000­-436,2001-­412,2002-4­68, 2003-532, 2004-650, 2005-767, 2006-817, 2007-730
How’s it going for the people of Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc. these days regarding good jobs? Want that HRC “35 years of experience”, or true change and a new direction offered by Sen. Obama.

[cacamp]

NAFTA and other Clinton/GOP unfree trade policies caused the massive immigration we're now experiencing. Want more? elect his wife.

[naturesway]

we are a nation of immigrants. GO Immigration!

[evahartselftlanguages]

TO: Presidential Candidates for November 2008 February 13, 2008


They had a festive bash

Supporting Sfc Mayor Gavin Newsom's Care not Cash

I sent to Senator John McCain a letter to make things for me better

Job fax money needed he never heeded.

Eva Hart Christian Army 62-70 670 Eddy St. Sfc 94109 Rec job Sec of Def 64

[GarsLuber]

A flag burning in Berkeley????

Chicken Hawks.... spin those panties!!!!

[naturesway]

Nope, just some people passionate about peace in the world. That's all.

[williamg]

Hillary authored an anti-flag burning bill. I guess she is against peace around the world.

[HumeSkeptic]

I liked that McBomb thread of this afternoon much better. It was so much more fun to use foul language on that one.

Just the sight or mention of a Republican brings out a whole new vocabulary from inside of me.

[Nochnoi]

Republicans are great!!!!!!

*ducks and runs*

[evahartselftlanguages]

TO: Presidential Candidates for 2008 February 13, 2008


Senator Barack Obama

Has a sad,sad Saga

Osama rhymes with Obama his name

Reminding everyone of 9/11 NY pain.

Eva Hart Christian Army 62-70 670 Eddy St. Sfc 94109 Rec job Sec of Def 64

[HumeSkeptic]

And McCain rhymes with pain. So, there you go.

BTW, were you born an idiot or became one?

[naturesway]

eva's post took some thinking and a little humor...be­ats yours. Just kidding, but you do need to work on it a bit.

[PrimeTimeMom]

Another fat lady singing here: *fa so la ti doe*

::Glass cracking in the Hillbill campaign::

[baghdadjoe]

I hope you have not registered with Hillary's website... in case you have, she rewarded your support by selling your info to the spammers:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18958566

What a special way to say "thank you" to her supporters!!

[repubstheirownworstenemy]

Wow. Not only are the Clintons whores, they're cheap.

[naturesway]

haha, and you are sending more people there for her sinister computers to suck brian juice from anyone who clicks on the link.
Haha, good one .

[mcearlgrey]

Clinton needs another couple of debates so she can completely reinvent herself and what she stands for.

There have only been about 11,000 debates so far this election cycle. If you don't know by now what the candidates stand for or who you like better, get on the fucking Internet and do some research. I hear it's free at the library these days.

[naturesway]

Never been one addressing the single most important issue: Global Climate Change. The threats are worse than jihadism and not much being discussed. I need to see who will have our best plan.

[horacekent]

HOW DARE YOU!!! How dare you attack Hilliary!

- Dont' you know her husband was President?

- Don't you know she's been planning this run for years?

- Don't you know she's ENTITLED to this nomination?


So who the HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

You should be ASHAMED of yourself!

;-)

Great Luck!
~HK

[JoelNH]

Copy/Paste much do you?
I've seen this same post word for word on every Anti-Clinton comment posted.

Sorry, but your girl blew it. Too many in this country don't like her, won't buy what she is selling, and are tired of the controversy surrounding the "Clinton" brand.

Time to look forward, not back. Not back to impeachment, NAFTA, Democrats losing congress, etc. etc. etc.

[CindyV]

And she won evry one of them. You'd think after 5 debates Obama would have figured it out, but no. That's a pretty steep learning curve for a guy who wants to be president. Hillary's right. Obama can't answer questions.

[wshanks]

Wow, and her debate superiority sure has translated to electoral victory!

[Clarabell]

EXTRA, EXTRA, READ ALL ABOUT IT!!!!
Hey, I noticed today on Chris Matthews Hardball that HILLARY, is suddenly "Senator Clinton" --- not once, over and over, but Sentator Obama, is "BARACK OBAMA!!! What gives?

[repubstheirownworstenemy]

They're still giving Hillary "Shusters".

[HumeSkeptic]

Who's Matthews?

[GarsLuber]

i was very excited to vote for Barack Obama, but then I found out his hidden middle is HUSSEIN, and that he's also BLACK!!!

[baghdadjoe]

That is incorrect. Barack Obama is not black, he is half-white.

[nanotubz]

And that you yourself are an idiot.

[misterbone]

I notice that Obama has finally eclipsed Ms. Clinton in the Gallup Daily. Nicely done chap.

[GrouchoMarxist]

This thing is getting close to being over...

[Ides]

And so is the long night.


Hehe, just kidding.

[LAcarlito]

18 debates already. Clinton is low on money and needs free air time, Obama does not need the free air time. So why should Obama agree to more debates? This is silly. Nice to see Hillary try to turn it into a negative ad, but anyone with a brain will just see it as more crying by a candidate who is behind--nothing more.

Move on Hillary. No issue here. Obama has no desire to give you 90-120 minutes of free air time before Wisconsin. PAY FOR IT! Smart politics by Obama. Deal with it. Obama has you down and he wants to press his advantage. You would be doing the same if you were in his position..­.which you are not!

[horacekent]

HOW DARE YOU!!! How dare you attack Hilliary!

- Dont' you know her husband was President?

- Don't you know she's been planning this run for years?

- Don't you know she's ENTITLED to this nomination?


So who the HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

You should be ASHAMED of yourself!

;-)

Great Luck!
~HK

[JoelNH]

Copy/Paste much do you?
I've seen this same post word for word on every Anti-Clinton comment posted.

Sorry, but your girl blew it. Too many in this country don't like her, won't buy what she is selling, and are tired of the controversy surrounding the "Clinton" brand.

Time to look forward, not back. Not back to impeachment, NAFTA, Democrats losing congress, etc. etc. etc.

[wedgie]

Pretty surgical analysis.

**

[Ides]

Worse, it takes 2-3 days of prep time for a debate. She wants to pull him off the campaign trail, where he is winning most of his support.

[CindyV]

Obama can't debate his way out of a paper bag. Face it, he can't answer questions.

[LAcarlito]

Thanks for that talking point CindyV. But the point is, campaigns are about strategy. Obama can press his advantage AND make Hillary spend more money by keeping debates to a minimum...­20 is enough.

If the MSM or voters want more details on Obama's positions, they can ask at campaign events and go to his well done website. He has plenty of detail of there.

BTW, I think Obama does a MUCH BETTER job of answering questions DIRECTLY than does "Triangulating" Hillary. This is why he is viewed as a weaker debater. He is more direct & honest. I'll take this weaker debating style any time.

[TiffShelton]

And you know this because we have seen 20 debates.

How many more do we need?

[baghdadjoe]

BREAKING CLINTON CORRUPTION: Clinton Campaign Sold Donor List to Bill Clinton Financier

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18958566

Hillary Clinton's campaign apparently sold or rented its donor list to one of the largest brokerage firms for mailing lists in the country, InfoUSA, as reported by NPR.

[independentNproud]

Thanks for the link in YouTube Troubledwawa. You definitely have to love that YouTube! I went to the link you mention on Hillary laughing about NAFTA below ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBypp2hqxaQ
I found plenty of other "interesting" videos that are a must see...like "The Shocking Video Hillary Does NOT Want You To See!" The catchy title did it for me. Yikes, I had somehow forgotten the unethical side of the Clintons. DUH! This video clearly helped to remind me of that.

[hank48188]

I saw about 4 videos on youtube on a guy who claimed he did coke with Omama and had gay sex, i haven't heard anything in the media though, If you type in Obama's limo sex and drugs you might find it

[independentNproud]

Yeah, yeah, saw that too, funny I have to admit. Luckily the Clintons have left a trail of tangible proof of their ruthlessness. It's their reality I'm afraid. Hey, but if you don't believe it because it's on YouTube I suggest you do some legwork for yourself (i.e. Google). Just a suggestion.

[JMHLK]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY

- about Obama

[iPolitics]

watch obama live at town hall in Wisconsin:

http://www.cnn.com/