Edwards Endorsement For Obama: Speculation Grows

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First Posted: 02-13-08 04:11 PM   |   Updated: 05-14-08 04:06 PM

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Seeking Edwards Nod

UPDATE - 5/14: The Obama campaign has announced a "major national endorsement" for a rally tonight at 7pm in Michigan, and the rumor mill is swirling that it is none other than Sen. John Edwards. Time's Mark Halperin is teasing as much at his Web site, with a photo of Edwards and the text, "Ready to choose? Ready to hope?"

Edwards has certainly dropped some hints in recent days. He's chided Hillary Clinton over her comments about race, said he can't figure out how Clinton could ever win the nomination, and even said he planned to endorse the person he voted for in North Carolina's primary, using (it seems) the word "him."

That said, in an interview with People magazine, Edwards said of Obama, "Sometimes I want to see more substance under the rhetoric."

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UPDATE: 2/21: Although David Plouffe wasn't in town meeting John Edwards, it appears he was meeting with Edwards' supporters:

About two dozen Democrats gathered in the law offices of Kirby & Holt at noon today to listen to a one-hour talk by David Plouffe, the campaign manager for Barack Obama.


Several participants said there was no explicit pitch for the backers of former Sen. John Edwards. In fact, Plouffe went out of his way to say he understood that some Edwards backers may not be ready to make another choice yet, Rob Christensen reports.

UPDATE 2/21: Obama campaign manager was spotted in the homestate of John Edwards, a full two months before the state's primary:

Plouffe swore up and down to the paper that he wasn't there on a stealth mission to court Edwards' endorsement. Instead, he was there to raise money and organize, in the believe that North Carolina's May 6th primary could prove pivotal.


Plouffe seems like a pretty major player to be spending time merely organizing in a state who's primary is over two months away, but we'll take his word for it.

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UPDATE 2/18:Following on yesterday's meeting Barack Obama adopted the rhetoric of his formal rival, albeit without providing much information about the substance of their conversation:

"I think John still has an enormous following, I think he has a lot of credibility and so we would love to have his support," Obama said. "But right now, what I think is most important is for me to make sure that I am getting out and talking to voters."


What will be "most helpful ultimately," Obama said, "is that the people have a sense that I will be fighting for them in the White House, that my priorities are their priorities. If they know that, then the endorsements will probably have less sway."

UPDATE 2/17: John Edwards and Barack Obama have finally had their private meeting in Chapel Hill:

Mr. Obama, who canceled an afternoon campaign trip to Wisconsin, flew to Chapel Hill, N.C., to meet with John and Elizabeth Edwards this morning. The meeting was quietly rescheduled after a session Monday with the two men was postponed because too much attention was being paid to it and camera crews were staking out Mr. Edwards' home.

Obama has said not to expect much out of the meeting:

"I don't think there's any imminent news," Obama told CBS affiliate WISC-TV this afternoon. "We were exchanging views, he was giving me some thoughts, and obviosuly he's gonna be a big force in the Democratic party for many years to come."


Campaign officials would not specify whether the meeting included a promise of an Edwards endorsement.

Also, AP reports tonight that Clinton has been wooing the Edwardses more effectively:

People close to the Edwardses, speaking privately, say they have been torn about whom to support. The former North Carolina senator is concerned that Obama may not be ready for the presidency and that his health care plan is inferior. But Edwards was highly critical of Clinton - her policies, her ties to special interests and her character - during his campaign, making it more difficult to support her now.


The couple has been impressed with Clinton, who has more effectively courted them since the 2004 vice presidential nominee dropped out, people who talk to the Edwardses say. Obama has been less attentive, they say, and some of those close to the Edwardses have been annoyed that Obama has continued to ridicule him for once saying his biggest weakness is that he has a powerful response to seeing pain in others.

Still, since Edwards has left the race, Obama often praises him in public. This week he told Wisconsin voters that Edwards will "be a major voice in the Democratic party for years to come, and I want him involved and partnering with me in moving this country forward."

UPDATE 2/15: Edwards' top backers are tilting overwhelmingly to Obama:

Jim and Susan Phillips were loyal supporters of fellow North Carolina Democrat John Edwards and backed up their support with money. But a day after Edwards dropped out of the presidential race last month, Susan Phillips sent $500 to Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois.


"He is the most likely guy to bring people together and the guy with the most potential to fundamentally change the way we do business in the United States," said Jim Phillips, a Greensboro lawyer and chairman of the UNC system board of governors.

Of the $44 million Edwards raised through December, more than $2.6 million came from the Carolinas.

Interviews with nearly 20 of Edwards' top contributors in the Carolinas, selected randomly, showed a majority of them tilting toward Obama, with some undecided.

No contributors said they're ready to back Hillary Clinton.

UPDATE 2/13: John Edwards is "as split as the party he once hoped to lead -- and is seriously considering supporting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, despite the sharp criticism he leveled at her on the campaign trail, according to former aides and advisers," ABC News reports:

In deciding between his one-time rivals, Edwards appears deeply divided. Several former advisers likened his thought process to a heart-versus-head split -- with his heart favoring Sen. Barack Obama's strong message of change, and his head attracted to Clinton's tested nature and commitment to tough fights.


Though he sometimes aligned himself with Obama -- and against Clinton -- as a candidate, several Edwards campaign insiders say the former senator began to sour on Obama toward the end of his own campaign, and ultimately left the race questioning whether Obama had the toughness needed to prevail in a presidential race.

"He is much more torn than people realize," said one former aide who has stayed in contact with Edwards. "Honestly, he has serious reservations about both of them."

UPDATE: Tonight's meeting between Obama and Edwards has been postponed, according to ABC's Political Radar:

While it is unclear which party ultimately pulled the plug on tonight's meeting between Obama and Edwards, sources indicate the meeting will be rescheduled in coming days.


No cause was given for the abrupt rescheduling but sources have indicated that the Obama campaign and Edwards wished that the meeting would be done in private without massive media attention.

Former Sen. John Edwards "met with Hillary Clinton Thursday in North Carolina, and is meeting with Barack Obama Monday, to discuss a possible primary endorsement." CNN reports:

The Thursday meeting, which took place at Edwards' home in Chapel Hill, was followed by a Saturday night session during which the former North Carolina senator and several longtime advisers discussed many issues, including which candidate he should endorse. [...]


At a Chapel Hill party yesterday for Edwards supporters, he gave no indication who he might endorse, or whether that endorsement is imminent. Some advisers are encouraging him not to endorse.

The former candidate is weighing a number of considerations before making his choice - including electability, and who will best promote his ideas.

There are policy considerations at play: there is a sense within the Edwards camp that Clinton's policies could be better for working class Americans. But Obama's anti-lobbyist proposals are more aligned with Edwards' politics.

In response to a CNN report that Elizabeth Edwards may favor Obama over Clinton, sources close to the Edwards family flatly deny that she favors one candidate over the other.

Greg Sargent at TPM Election Central spoke to an Edwards aide who offered more details, including: "There's a greater than 50% chance he will endorse."

The Edwards aide cautioned against reading too much into the meetings, saying that he'd been talking to both of them before. "He's torn," the aide said "He has reservations about Hillary, which are pretty apparent."


On Obama, the aide says, Edwards worries "whether he's tough enough to be President of the United States. If you look at what Edwards ran on, which is not negotiating with the special interests, taking away their power, that's pretty different than the Obama model."

The Edwards aide added that Obama's lack of a health care plan with a "mandate" is a "tough hurdle for him to get over." He added, however, that Edwards is much more in line with Obama on other issues.

UPDATE - 5/14: The Obama campaign has announced a "major national endorsement" for a rally tonight at 7pm in Michigan, and the rumor mill is swirling that it is none other than Sen. John Edwards. Time...
UPDATE - 5/14: The Obama campaign has announced a "major national endorsement" for a rally tonight at 7pm in Michigan, and the rumor mill is swirling that it is none other than Sen. John Edwards. Time...
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I like Edwards and when he suspended his run I turned to Obama. I thought a ticket of these two men would be great.

I think the more we hear Obama he begins to sound more like Edwards. I hope the HOPE Obama speaks of is what Edwards was fighting for, eliminate poverty, universal health care for all Americans and kicking out the corporate influence in our government and end this futile war in Iraq.

Obama needs to understand working with the insurance companies to provide health care is futile and that a single payer system is the only way all Americans will actually see their health care needs met.

I'm willing to stand for Obama now, because I want a Democrat in the White House in 2009. Hillary will be the uniting force behind GOP voters casting their ballots for McCain. Obama will bring moderate Republican voters to vote for him.

Obama 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 02/18/2008
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Barack you are a better more tolerant human being than I am.

Personally I would never have taken time out from the Wisconsin race to court the procrastinating overly cautious fence sitter, unless there was a clear commitment for an endorsement with no strings attached.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 02/18/2008
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If the AP source quoted is true, (Mark Halperin says he verified it as well) that Edwards is leaning toward Clinton because Obama's been "less attentive," and because he's upset because Obama called out Clinton and Edwards for being disingenuious during a debate, well that tells you everything you need to know about Edwards character.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 02/18/2008
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If the AP source is true....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 02/18/2008

Nice headline, Huffpost: Obama "sneaks" off to "secret" meeting with Edwards. So now Obama is a sneak with secrets, right? Listen up, you liars: he didn't "sneak", he travelled without the press, and why? Because the meeting wasn't "secret", it was PRIVATE (of course). I would expect lying headlines like this one from Fox News, not from Huffpost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 02/18/2008

He snuck off to meet with Senator Edwards - just like he is sneeking donors from the Carlyle Group
www.politicalamnesia.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 02/18/2008
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"I want him (Edwards) involved and partnering with me in moving forward this country forward." Does that sound like Obama/Edwards, '08? I wili bet my farm on it. Edwards would endorse Clinton when pigs fly. They are completely opposite in outlook for what's best for this country

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 02/18/2008
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"...[S]ome of those close to the Edwardses have been annoyed that Obama has continued to ridicule him for once saying his biggest weakness is that he has a powerful response to seeing pain in others."

This doesn't say that the Edwardses themselves have been annoyed but can anybody explain how having a powerful response to seeing pain in others is somehow a weakness and not a great strength?

From what we're reading here, Edwards great weakness is his inability to come to a decision. From what we've observed of his tenure in the Senate and his recent campaign, his biggest weakness is second-guessing himself. These are fatal flaws for presidents or anybody aspiring to the office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 02/18/2008
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The "biggest weakness" question came up in one of the debates. Edwards replied that his weakness is having a "powerful response to seeing pain in others." He may indeed have such responses but it wasn't an honest answer to the question, but a political one. Later Obama joked that he obviously didn't know the rules, because he'd said "I'm disorganized" (or something like that).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 02/18/2008
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BHO has made deal with Edwards!
BHO will appoing Edwards as Sec of Hair.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 02/18/2008
- Teddy12 I'm a Fan of Teddy12 3 fans permalink

Ted Kennedy was a loser running for President, John Kerry was a loser running for President and John Edwards was a loser running for President. What do they have in common, have or will endorse Barrack Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 02/18/2008
- AurigaRa I'm a Fan of AurigaRa 27 fans permalink

whoa, that is HIL-arious.

We need more Americans who are swayed by a candidates haircut; that way we can elect another republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 02/18/2008

John Edward's inability to commit is very typical of a Gemini (sign of the twins; split personality) who tends to want to be on both sides. Life with a Gemini brings much inspiration but many unfinished projects due to an inability to follow through to completion.

The political machine would easily label him "Flip-Flop". He was for the war before he was against it. He was for the middle-class before he voted for the bankruptcy bill. He was for the poor until he cashed in on a hedge fund.

Triangulation of the mind intellect, the ego and vanity always seems to get in the way of doing what is right. Deep down, a Gemini must learn to trust his heart... love, truth, and justice doesn't lie or mislead like the head can.

Follow your heart John.

"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance­." —Robert F. Kennedy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 02/18/2008
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Obama is a Leo: Element is Fire
Leo radiates warmth, light and goodwill like the Sun which rules it... Leo at its best is confident and decisive, has an overall perspective on life and can bring out the best in others. However, lack of obvious appreciation by others can lead to vanity and egotistical behaviour. A poor self-image is then covered up with a veneer of confident self-reliance, both of which serve to make empathy with others impossible.

Clinton is a Scorpio: Element is Water
Scorpio needs to delve beneath appearances to reality. Nothing superficial will do... However, Scorpio's insight can give it great power and there can be a temptation to use this to control and possess others so that they become dependant. Prone to intense jealousy if they then manage to escape and show attachment elsewhere.

McCain is a Virgo: Element is Earth
When Virgo relates to you an important occasion you may boil with frustration waiting for the relevant conclusions to emerge from the carefully ordered account of events leading to them - Virgo knows what is useful but bores you with the details anyway. However, they can't see the wood for the trees. No overall perspective on life. Frightened of chaos so tries to control it or denies its existence until proved by scientists (that is, scientists who don't believe in chaos).

http://www.zodiac-signs.co.uk/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 02/18/2008
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Virgos - can't live without them - the nurses, accountants, engineers of society. But wouldn't want one as president now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 02/18/2008
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George Bush is a Cancer: Element is Water
Cancer is the home and family lover of the zodiac... However, the sense of security that home and family (of whatever kinds) can give may lead to a clinging on to them when they no longer serve for further progress in life. Thus Cancer can live in the past rather than creatively in the present.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 02/18/2008
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Umh, people actually still believe in astrology?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 02/18/2008
- AurigaRa I'm a Fan of AurigaRa 27 fans permalink

interestin­g...didn't know that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 02/18/2008
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Once again! I OBJECT to the headlining at HuffPo! "Obama Sneaks Off To Secret Edwards Meeting" makes a perfectly reasonable meeting sound sleazy! I usually find myself offended by the Clinton headlines, so I'm happy to slap back on behalf of Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 02/18/2008
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I OBJECT to the headline, too.

Really, HuffPo headlines--for all candidates--are often completely misleading and even seem intentionally irresponsible or inflammatory.

Why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 02/18/2008
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John Edwards was my first choice, but I'm certainly not sitting around and waiting for him to tell me which way to go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 02/18/2008
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And that, making your own choice, was exactly what he asked you to do, when he suspended his campaign in NOLA:

"It's time for me to step aside so that history can blaze its path. We do not know who will take the final steps to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, but what we do know is that our Democratic Party will make history"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 02/18/2008
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....

ObamaNation

A land where each takes according to his needs....

Each gives until they are sore and walk BOWLEGGED.­...

ObamaNatio­n.... a CHANGING LAND OF HOPEFUL HOPE...

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 02/18/2008
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Ewards is welcomed to . ObamaNation


Edwards did'nt know how how much a lawyer could make sueing TELECOMS..­.

Edwards feels foolish for messing around ruining OB's for kids....


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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 02/18/2008
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The Republicans have already begun to formulate their strategy in focusing in Obama's two greatest weaknesses; his inexperience and his undisciplined messaging.

Then hang the number one leftist label around his neck and Joe and Jill Voter and the Regular Americans will keep their votes in the sensible right of center.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 02/18/2008
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The only way Hillary or Barack could beat McCain is if McCain campaigns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 02/18/2008

What the eff does that mean?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 02/18/2008
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I wouldn't underestimate McCain. Not too long ago he was ruled out as having any chance for the nomination. Granted, it was a pretty weak field of candidates during a deep trough in GOP morale but we mustn't assume he'll be easy to defeat in the general election, particularly if HRC takes the nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 02/18/2008
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You're going to need better lipstick than that to put on your pig.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 02/18/2008
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Far more Republicans will go out to vote against Clinton than they will Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 02/18/2008

Absolutely, positively not true. Republicans hate Mrs. Clinton. I'm organizing the Obama campaign in Wyoming, an overwhelmingly red state, and as many outright Obama supporters as we find, there is an equal number of Republicans that will vote for Obama in an Obama/McCain general election. The number of Wyoming Republicans that have said they will vote for Hillary Clinton over McCain in a general election--zero. You are seriously in la la land. Read this article posted on Politico just today -- http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8564.html Not only do the Republican Party insiders consider Mrs. Clinton the easier candidate to beat, they unanimously hate her. Wake up, seriously.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 02/18/2008
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When people see the old, tired, monotone McCain standing next to the young, fresh, exciting Obama, Joe & Jill Voter and the Regular Americans will send Old John back to the Senate.

Methinks you are using the term "Regular Americans" to imply that anyone who votes for a black man is not one of the "Regular Americans".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 02/18/2008

I added two more (maybe) to my collection of Republicans who are going to vote in the open Texas primary on the Dem side.

Billy made the comment that "Obama's coming on!" as we walked onto the seven green yesterday. I said "that's what makes this open primary a great opportunity". One of the two transplanted Yankees (one from Wisconsin, the other from New Jersey) we were playing with said "What's that mean, open primary?". When I explained that a Republican could vote for Obama to stick it to Hillary, or vice versa, he said "That's what I'd like to do.". The other said "I don't care much for Obama but that Hillary is a witch. I can't stand her."

Both of them claimed to be registered as both have lived in the neighborhood surrounding the golf course for about ten years.

That makes seven that I've encouraged to make mischief in the Dem primary. Counting me, that's eight. My efforts surely won't be determinative, but I do what I can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 02/18/2008
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Nothing wrong with that. If it's an open primary, anyone can vote for anyone regardless of party. How is this "mischief?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 02/18/2008
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Right. Not determinative, delusional.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 02/18/2008
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I wonder which is the lamest and has the least impact:

1. Your silly post
2. Seven votes out of several million to be cast in Texas

You actually think you are the first person to try this? It happens all the time on both sides - I dare say all of you morons probably cancel out each other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 02/18/2008

John, our mind can be easily decieved. Go with your heart. It never lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 02/18/2008

good point

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 02/18/2008
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Conventional view: Rudy v. Hillary
Posted by Mark Silva at 6:05 am CST
Posted by on March 9, 2007

Here's some conventional wisdom for you:

A Washington magazine's poll of Washington "insiders,'' including congressmen, political operatives and other seasoned pundits, has defined the expectations-game at this early stage of the already fever-pitched 2008 presidential campaign: It will mostly likely be Rudy Giuliani vs Hillary Rodham Clinton.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/03/conventional_view_rudy_v_hilla.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 02/18/2008
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