Edwards Endorsement For Obama: Speculation Grows

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First Posted: 02-13-08 04:11 PM   |   Updated: 05-14-08 04:06 PM

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Seeking Edwards Nod

UPDATE - 5/14: The Obama campaign has announced a "major national endorsement" for a rally tonight at 7pm in Michigan, and the rumor mill is swirling that it is none other than Sen. John Edwards. Time's Mark Halperin is teasing as much at his Web site, with a photo of Edwards and the text, "Ready to choose? Ready to hope?"

Edwards has certainly dropped some hints in recent days. He's chided Hillary Clinton over her comments about race, said he can't figure out how Clinton could ever win the nomination, and even said he planned to endorse the person he voted for in North Carolina's primary, using (it seems) the word "him."

That said, in an interview with People magazine, Edwards said of Obama, "Sometimes I want to see more substance under the rhetoric."

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UPDATE: 2/21: Although David Plouffe wasn't in town meeting John Edwards, it appears he was meeting with Edwards' supporters:

About two dozen Democrats gathered in the law offices of Kirby & Holt at noon today to listen to a one-hour talk by David Plouffe, the campaign manager for Barack Obama.


Several participants said there was no explicit pitch for the backers of former Sen. John Edwards. In fact, Plouffe went out of his way to say he understood that some Edwards backers may not be ready to make another choice yet, Rob Christensen reports.

UPDATE 2/21: Obama campaign manager was spotted in the homestate of John Edwards, a full two months before the state's primary:

Plouffe swore up and down to the paper that he wasn't there on a stealth mission to court Edwards' endorsement. Instead, he was there to raise money and organize, in the believe that North Carolina's May 6th primary could prove pivotal.


Plouffe seems like a pretty major player to be spending time merely organizing in a state who's primary is over two months away, but we'll take his word for it.

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UPDATE 2/18:Following on yesterday's meeting Barack Obama adopted the rhetoric of his formal rival, albeit without providing much information about the substance of their conversation:

"I think John still has an enormous following, I think he has a lot of credibility and so we would love to have his support," Obama said. "But right now, what I think is most important is for me to make sure that I am getting out and talking to voters."


What will be "most helpful ultimately," Obama said, "is that the people have a sense that I will be fighting for them in the White House, that my priorities are their priorities. If they know that, then the endorsements will probably have less sway."

UPDATE 2/17: John Edwards and Barack Obama have finally had their private meeting in Chapel Hill:

Mr. Obama, who canceled an afternoon campaign trip to Wisconsin, flew to Chapel Hill, N.C., to meet with John and Elizabeth Edwards this morning. The meeting was quietly rescheduled after a session Monday with the two men was postponed because too much attention was being paid to it and camera crews were staking out Mr. Edwards' home.

Obama has said not to expect much out of the meeting:

"I don't think there's any imminent news," Obama told CBS affiliate WISC-TV this afternoon. "We were exchanging views, he was giving me some thoughts, and obviosuly he's gonna be a big force in the Democratic party for many years to come."


Campaign officials would not specify whether the meeting included a promise of an Edwards endorsement.

Also, AP reports tonight that Clinton has been wooing the Edwardses more effectively:

People close to the Edwardses, speaking privately, say they have been torn about whom to support. The former North Carolina senator is concerned that Obama may not be ready for the presidency and that his health care plan is inferior. But Edwards was highly critical of Clinton - her policies, her ties to special interests and her character - during his campaign, making it more difficult to support her now.


The couple has been impressed with Clinton, who has more effectively courted them since the 2004 vice presidential nominee dropped out, people who talk to the Edwardses say. Obama has been less attentive, they say, and some of those close to the Edwardses have been annoyed that Obama has continued to ridicule him for once saying his biggest weakness is that he has a powerful response to seeing pain in others.

Still, since Edwards has left the race, Obama often praises him in public. This week he told Wisconsin voters that Edwards will "be a major voice in the Democratic party for years to come, and I want him involved and partnering with me in moving this country forward."

UPDATE 2/15: Edwards' top backers are tilting overwhelmingly to Obama:

Jim and Susan Phillips were loyal supporters of fellow North Carolina Democrat John Edwards and backed up their support with money. But a day after Edwards dropped out of the presidential race last month, Susan Phillips sent $500 to Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois.


"He is the most likely guy to bring people together and the guy with the most potential to fundamentally change the way we do business in the United States," said Jim Phillips, a Greensboro lawyer and chairman of the UNC system board of governors.

Of the $44 million Edwards raised through December, more than $2.6 million came from the Carolinas.

Interviews with nearly 20 of Edwards' top contributors in the Carolinas, selected randomly, showed a majority of them tilting toward Obama, with some undecided.

No contributors said they're ready to back Hillary Clinton.

UPDATE 2/13: John Edwards is "as split as the party he once hoped to lead -- and is seriously considering supporting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, despite the sharp criticism he leveled at her on the campaign trail, according to former aides and advisers," ABC News reports:

In deciding between his one-time rivals, Edwards appears deeply divided. Several former advisers likened his thought process to a heart-versus-head split -- with his heart favoring Sen. Barack Obama's strong message of change, and his head attracted to Clinton's tested nature and commitment to tough fights.


Though he sometimes aligned himself with Obama -- and against Clinton -- as a candidate, several Edwards campaign insiders say the former senator began to sour on Obama toward the end of his own campaign, and ultimately left the race questioning whether Obama had the toughness needed to prevail in a presidential race.

"He is much more torn than people realize," said one former aide who has stayed in contact with Edwards. "Honestly, he has serious reservations about both of them."

UPDATE: Tonight's meeting between Obama and Edwards has been postponed, according to ABC's Political Radar:

While it is unclear which party ultimately pulled the plug on tonight's meeting between Obama and Edwards, sources indicate the meeting will be rescheduled in coming days.


No cause was given for the abrupt rescheduling but sources have indicated that the Obama campaign and Edwards wished that the meeting would be done in private without massive media attention.

Former Sen. John Edwards "met with Hillary Clinton Thursday in North Carolina, and is meeting with Barack Obama Monday, to discuss a possible primary endorsement." CNN reports:

The Thursday meeting, which took place at Edwards' home in Chapel Hill, was followed by a Saturday night session during which the former North Carolina senator and several longtime advisers discussed many issues, including which candidate he should endorse. [...]


At a Chapel Hill party yesterday for Edwards supporters, he gave no indication who he might endorse, or whether that endorsement is imminent. Some advisers are encouraging him not to endorse.

The former candidate is weighing a number of considerations before making his choice - including electability, and who will best promote his ideas.

There are policy considerations at play: there is a sense within the Edwards camp that Clinton's policies could be better for working class Americans. But Obama's anti-lobbyist proposals are more aligned with Edwards' politics.

In response to a CNN report that Elizabeth Edwards may favor Obama over Clinton, sources close to the Edwards family flatly deny that she favors one candidate over the other.

Greg Sargent at TPM Election Central spoke to an Edwards aide who offered more details, including: "There's a greater than 50% chance he will endorse."

The Edwards aide cautioned against reading too much into the meetings, saying that he'd been talking to both of them before. "He's torn," the aide said "He has reservations about Hillary, which are pretty apparent."


On Obama, the aide says, Edwards worries "whether he's tough enough to be President of the United States. If you look at what Edwards ran on, which is not negotiating with the special interests, taking away their power, that's pretty different than the Obama model."

The Edwards aide added that Obama's lack of a health care plan with a "mandate" is a "tough hurdle for him to get over." He added, however, that Edwards is much more in line with Obama on other issues.

UPDATE - 5/14: The Obama campaign has announced a "major national endorsement" for a rally tonight at 7pm in Michigan, and the rumor mill is swirling that it is none other than Sen. John Edwards. Time...
UPDATE - 5/14: The Obama campaign has announced a "major national endorsement" for a rally tonight at 7pm in Michigan, and the rumor mill is swirling that it is none other than Sen. John Edwards. Time...
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- Gordon I'm a Fan of Gordon 29 fans permalink
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Just as I predicted.­..

Worldnet Daily and Drudge reporting that Edwards will endorse McCain!

Ha!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 02/18/2008
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Wednesday, February 6, 2008
Why Hillary Will Be the Nominee

posted by Eileen Smith at 9:52 AM

http://www.texasmonthly.com/blogs/polldancing/2008/02/why-hillary-will-be-nominee.php

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 02/18/2008

There is a follow up piece to that called why a Democrat is not in the White House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 02/18/2008
- elkabong I'm a Fan of elkabong 164 fans permalink
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"Hope is for sissies...­(muttering­) damn teenagers with their cordless phones and their color TV's!"

- Senator "Hothead" McAncient

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 02/18/2008

Queeksdraw : McIncontinent forgots the lapstops and the X - Boxes...


-Baba Looey

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 02/18/2008
- jazzman I'm a Fan of jazzman 236 fans permalink
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Why support either one? He should just hold back and agree to support the eventual nominee if he is so torn. Nobody would fault him for doing so. In fact, it might help unify the party in the fall.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 02/18/2008

After the headline, I was expecting SOMEONE to be in a pink panther costume. Maybe a mask? This is no way to deliver the goods.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 02/18/2008

Here are my two problems with Clinton. They are reasonable requests, although I know some Clinton supporters will defend her until the day she drops out

1. Why won't she release her tax returns?

2. Why did she not bother to show up for the FISA bill? Is she alright in having the telecoms having immunity over spying on you? Is this the type of leadership she promises on day one?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 02/18/2008
- marinade I'm a Fan of marinade 40 fans permalink

At least she spoke out about the special interests and getting some of our money back from those deadbeats.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8525.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 02/18/2008

So Obama had to take time from his busy schedule to go meet Edwards at his Two Americas Mansion? He had to cancel campaign events to go kiss the ass of Mr Faux Populist?

Why?

If Edwards endorses Clinton, he destroys his own reputation. He's already failed at his second incarnation, second rate Huey Long, what's he going to do, return to being the fair haired boy of the DLC? That's what he was in 2003, when he was trying to inherit the mantle from Bill Clinton, after Al Gore let it slip in 2000.

If Edwards endorses Hillary, he will be admitting that everything he said in the debates and on the campaign trail after Iowa was a lie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 02/18/2008

John, your head can be easily deceived. Go with your heart. It never lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 02/18/2008
- LaFeminazi I'm a Fan of LaFeminazi 236 fans permalink
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Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 02/18/2008

Femi : Williams - " The public deserves as much knowledge as possible. "

Well then... There's the ' rub ', then. That clears up all the doubt and confusion I may have been experiencing.


Good morning. -ralph

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 02/18/2008
- lastams I'm a Fan of lastams 53 fans permalink

OOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOHHHHH­H secret meetings!
Wow, the political pundits will be all abuzz.
One wonders when we are going to get back to issues, or for that mater when the News is going to notice something other than the election.
600 billion dollar defense budgets get passed,
the President holds up FISA, The Freedom of Information Act get dismantled, the President decides to rewrite the Consitituion and form a treaty with Iraq, the Saudis get a 20 billion dollar arms package, and governmnet fraud reaches new levels while twelve bilion a month goes down a black hole in Iraq.
No wonder Americans know nothing about their government or world events when the nightly news refuses to report it.
In the end Americans won't get the government they deserve, they'll get the government they don't understand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 02/18/2008

For Edwards to "pull" Obama away from Wisconsin and only tease him with an endorsement is weird. I hope Edwards is not making this about Edwards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 02/18/2008
- marinade I'm a Fan of marinade 40 fans permalink

Edwards is undoubtedly making it about the American people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 02/18/2008

luckykay, it is looking that way. if he is going to endorse then endorse, if not let the two candidates campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 02/18/2008
- IkeChicago I'm a Fan of IkeChicago 18 fans permalink

Just listened to an interview with Obama, his assessment is that John Edwards may not endorse, not anytime soon anyway.

My conclusion is that if Edwards fails to endorse, Hillary won this round for she needs it less than Obama does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 02/18/2008
- Crozier I'm a Fan of Crozier 69 fans permalink

For two years, Huffpo has been correctly feeling the pulse of Barack Obama. Now, it seems, several celebrity Huffpo voters are now attacking Obama and thereby supporting Billary.

The MSM and Murdoch have Billary's back just like he opposed Major and supported centrist and pragmatic NEW LABOUR Bliar. I hear the drums are beating. Obama and JFK - they fear a repeat where the sheeple awaken to retaking their democracy hijacked in the middle of the night decades ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 02/18/2008
- JePense I'm a Fan of JePense 15 fans permalink

Wrong - I think Obama is happy if Edwards doesn't endorse anyone.

Edwards BECOMES the story if he endorses Hillary - because he loses all political capital along with his credibility and is totally marginalized by caving in to his personal vanity and effort to remain relevant.

People will spend a lot of newstime speculating why he would endorse Clinton after devoting an entire campaign to chastising her as the ultimate "corporate candidate.­"

e.g., why the 180? possibly:

- Promise of big position in her administration?
- She did a better job of puffing his ego (35 yrs experience at that!)
- He's a lawyer through and through, can represent any client if the price is right
- Doesn't like being bested by Obama, can't humble himself to support him
- Southern stuff
- Wife told him to go with the woman candidate

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 02/18/2008

Are these really the two you'd want facing down Russia or China? Come on. President Oh-bomb-us.
Hillary at least has Bill to confide in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 02/18/2008
- robodweeb I'm a Fan of robodweeb 124 fans permalink
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Russia and China???

How 1960s.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 02/18/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 634 fans permalink
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You seem like a national security expert, where's Bin Laden ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 02/18/2008

Iran, where else! Go tell everyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 02/18/2008
- cseper I'm a Fan of cseper 5 fans permalink

It's amazing how much the media is pushing Obama. Michelle Obama just recently said she'd have to think about it whether she'd vote for Hillary if she is the nominee. Can you imagain if Bill Clinton said he'd have to think about it whether to vote for Obama if he's the nominee. The media would have crusified him for being a racist or a race baitor, or Hillary's hitman, or whatever. If Hillary becomes the nominee with the full force of the media against her she will have earned it without question.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 02/18/2008

uh actually michelle was asked if she would campaign for hillary if i remember correctly.
i believe she said she would vote for whoever the dem nominee is.
if i am wrong prove it. if not apologize for posting bullshit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 02/18/2008
- anghiari I'm a Fan of anghiari 22 fans permalink

What are you guys talking about clearly there is no confiding in one another. Look at her campaign..­.What I find interesting is that her suporters seem unable to correlate the current situation of the "experienced candidate" and the poor way she has run her campaign since Iowa. Sure she won California and Nevada, but that was essentially the Democratic Party loyalists and unions who had committed to her because she was inevitable­...she clearly underestimated her opponent to the point that her campaign did not even understand that she would need more money if she did not capture Feb 5th convincingly. I have little respect for people who see the picture before them and continue to lie about what an experienced candidate Clinton is??? where have we seen the experience thus far? Her ambition to to keep going isn't based one experience--its ego and fear...thi­s was hers to lose and she has done a terrible job thus far...fore­ign policy crisis aren't going to offer her three more chances(primaries) to get it right!!!!! She needs to be able to get it right the FIRST time. So far not so good!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 02/18/2008
- pleeezzze I'm a Fan of pleeezzze 6 fans permalink

Do you really work for Obama ??? or was that McCain speaking ???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 02/18/2008

Thats perfect, old thinking! "Facing down" Russia or China! Facing Down? These people want to gain economic power, they aren't going to bomb the pepole who buy their goods. Face down- that is thw logic we need to abandon. How about "being smart", "Smarting them down", Smarting them Up".

Every problem is not a nail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 02/18/2008

very insightful article into the inner workings of the clinton campaign by joshua green.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200802u/patti-solis-doyle

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 02/18/2008
- LongTom I'm a Fan of LongTom 6 fans permalink

"Sneaks" off? Gee, maybe a headline writer needs to get fired around HuffPo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 02/18/2008
- Crozier I'm a Fan of Crozier 69 fans permalink

There is possibly a Billary supporter in the mix afraid of future access if they do not play along with the Corporate MSM and their anointed co-presidents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 02/18/2008
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