Edwards Endorsement For Obama: Speculation Grows

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First Posted: 02-13-08 04:11 PM   |   Updated: 05-14-08 04:06 PM

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Seeking Edwards Nod

UPDATE - 5/14: The Obama campaign has announced a "major national endorsement" for a rally tonight at 7pm in Michigan, and the rumor mill is swirling that it is none other than Sen. John Edwards. Time's Mark Halperin is teasing as much at his Web site, with a photo of Edwards and the text, "Ready to choose? Ready to hope?"

Edwards has certainly dropped some hints in recent days. He's chided Hillary Clinton over her comments about race, said he can't figure out how Clinton could ever win the nomination, and even said he planned to endorse the person he voted for in North Carolina's primary, using (it seems) the word "him."

That said, in an interview with People magazine, Edwards said of Obama, "Sometimes I want to see more substance under the rhetoric."

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UPDATE: 2/21: Although David Plouffe wasn't in town meeting John Edwards, it appears he was meeting with Edwards' supporters:

About two dozen Democrats gathered in the law offices of Kirby & Holt at noon today to listen to a one-hour talk by David Plouffe, the campaign manager for Barack Obama.


Several participants said there was no explicit pitch for the backers of former Sen. John Edwards. In fact, Plouffe went out of his way to say he understood that some Edwards backers may not be ready to make another choice yet, Rob Christensen reports.

UPDATE 2/21: Obama campaign manager was spotted in the homestate of John Edwards, a full two months before the state's primary:

Plouffe swore up and down to the paper that he wasn't there on a stealth mission to court Edwards' endorsement. Instead, he was there to raise money and organize, in the believe that North Carolina's May 6th primary could prove pivotal.


Plouffe seems like a pretty major player to be spending time merely organizing in a state who's primary is over two months away, but we'll take his word for it.

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UPDATE 2/18:Following on yesterday's meeting Barack Obama adopted the rhetoric of his formal rival, albeit without providing much information about the substance of their conversation:

"I think John still has an enormous following, I think he has a lot of credibility and so we would love to have his support," Obama said. "But right now, what I think is most important is for me to make sure that I am getting out and talking to voters."


What will be "most helpful ultimately," Obama said, "is that the people have a sense that I will be fighting for them in the White House, that my priorities are their priorities. If they know that, then the endorsements will probably have less sway."

UPDATE 2/17: John Edwards and Barack Obama have finally had their private meeting in Chapel Hill:

Mr. Obama, who canceled an afternoon campaign trip to Wisconsin, flew to Chapel Hill, N.C., to meet with John and Elizabeth Edwards this morning. The meeting was quietly rescheduled after a session Monday with the two men was postponed because too much attention was being paid to it and camera crews were staking out Mr. Edwards' home.

Obama has said not to expect much out of the meeting:

"I don't think there's any imminent news," Obama told CBS affiliate WISC-TV this afternoon. "We were exchanging views, he was giving me some thoughts, and obviosuly he's gonna be a big force in the Democratic party for many years to come."


Campaign officials would not specify whether the meeting included a promise of an Edwards endorsement.

Also, AP reports tonight that Clinton has been wooing the Edwardses more effectively:

People close to the Edwardses, speaking privately, say they have been torn about whom to support. The former North Carolina senator is concerned that Obama may not be ready for the presidency and that his health care plan is inferior. But Edwards was highly critical of Clinton - her policies, her ties to special interests and her character - during his campaign, making it more difficult to support her now.


The couple has been impressed with Clinton, who has more effectively courted them since the 2004 vice presidential nominee dropped out, people who talk to the Edwardses say. Obama has been less attentive, they say, and some of those close to the Edwardses have been annoyed that Obama has continued to ridicule him for once saying his biggest weakness is that he has a powerful response to seeing pain in others.

Still, since Edwards has left the race, Obama often praises him in public. This week he told Wisconsin voters that Edwards will "be a major voice in the Democratic party for years to come, and I want him involved and partnering with me in moving this country forward."

UPDATE 2/15: Edwards' top backers are tilting overwhelmingly to Obama:

Jim and Susan Phillips were loyal supporters of fellow North Carolina Democrat John Edwards and backed up their support with money. But a day after Edwards dropped out of the presidential race last month, Susan Phillips sent $500 to Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois.


"He is the most likely guy to bring people together and the guy with the most potential to fundamentally change the way we do business in the United States," said Jim Phillips, a Greensboro lawyer and chairman of the UNC system board of governors.

Of the $44 million Edwards raised through December, more than $2.6 million came from the Carolinas.

Interviews with nearly 20 of Edwards' top contributors in the Carolinas, selected randomly, showed a majority of them tilting toward Obama, with some undecided.

No contributors said they're ready to back Hillary Clinton.

UPDATE 2/13: John Edwards is "as split as the party he once hoped to lead -- and is seriously considering supporting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, despite the sharp criticism he leveled at her on the campaign trail, according to former aides and advisers," ABC News reports:

In deciding between his one-time rivals, Edwards appears deeply divided. Several former advisers likened his thought process to a heart-versus-head split -- with his heart favoring Sen. Barack Obama's strong message of change, and his head attracted to Clinton's tested nature and commitment to tough fights.


Though he sometimes aligned himself with Obama -- and against Clinton -- as a candidate, several Edwards campaign insiders say the former senator began to sour on Obama toward the end of his own campaign, and ultimately left the race questioning whether Obama had the toughness needed to prevail in a presidential race.

"He is much more torn than people realize," said one former aide who has stayed in contact with Edwards. "Honestly, he has serious reservations about both of them."

UPDATE: Tonight's meeting between Obama and Edwards has been postponed, according to ABC's Political Radar:

While it is unclear which party ultimately pulled the plug on tonight's meeting between Obama and Edwards, sources indicate the meeting will be rescheduled in coming days.


No cause was given for the abrupt rescheduling but sources have indicated that the Obama campaign and Edwards wished that the meeting would be done in private without massive media attention.

Former Sen. John Edwards "met with Hillary Clinton Thursday in North Carolina, and is meeting with Barack Obama Monday, to discuss a possible primary endorsement." CNN reports:

The Thursday meeting, which took place at Edwards' home in Chapel Hill, was followed by a Saturday night session during which the former North Carolina senator and several longtime advisers discussed many issues, including which candidate he should endorse. [...]


At a Chapel Hill party yesterday for Edwards supporters, he gave no indication who he might endorse, or whether that endorsement is imminent. Some advisers are encouraging him not to endorse.

The former candidate is weighing a number of considerations before making his choice - including electability, and who will best promote his ideas.

There are policy considerations at play: there is a sense within the Edwards camp that Clinton's policies could be better for working class Americans. But Obama's anti-lobbyist proposals are more aligned with Edwards' politics.

In response to a CNN report that Elizabeth Edwards may favor Obama over Clinton, sources close to the Edwards family flatly deny that she favors one candidate over the other.

Greg Sargent at TPM Election Central spoke to an Edwards aide who offered more details, including: "There's a greater than 50% chance he will endorse."

The Edwards aide cautioned against reading too much into the meetings, saying that he'd been talking to both of them before. "He's torn," the aide said "He has reservations about Hillary, which are pretty apparent."


On Obama, the aide says, Edwards worries "whether he's tough enough to be President of the United States. If you look at what Edwards ran on, which is not negotiating with the special interests, taking away their power, that's pretty different than the Obama model."

The Edwards aide added that Obama's lack of a health care plan with a "mandate" is a "tough hurdle for him to get over." He added, however, that Edwards is much more in line with Obama on other issues.

UPDATE - 5/14: The Obama campaign has announced a "major national endorsement" for a rally tonight at 7pm in Michigan, and the rumor mill is swirling that it is none other than Sen. John Edwards. Time...
UPDATE - 5/14: The Obama campaign has announced a "major national endorsement" for a rally tonight at 7pm in Michigan, and the rumor mill is swirling that it is none other than Sen. John Edwards. Time...
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- RusStyles I'm a Fan of RusStyles 22 fans permalink

Reasons to pass on Clinton:

Clinton: 1 - After losing Iowa, mailed out flyers to NH women saying Obama was soft on women's rights for voting "present" on anti-abortion bills in Illinois, failing to point out that PLANNED PARENTHOOD ASKED HIM TO VOTE PRESENT, rather than "no", to give cover for moderates to also voter "present", thus killing the bills. Distortion of record.

2 - In South Carolina, running ads saying Obama preferred Reagan's ideas to Democratic ideas, when he said nothing remotely like that. Lie.

3 - When the DNC asked all candidates to pull their names off the ballots in Michigan for moving up their primary, Obama complied, she refused.

4 - In Nevada, tried to have the caucusing rules that she had agreed to months before changed at the last minute when the Culinary Workers' Union endorsed Obama instead of her.

5 - Making a case that she should get the unseated delegates in Michigan and Florida, after the DNC stripped them of delegates, and no one campaigned in either state.

6 - Making a case that even if Obama gets more delegates in all of the state's contests, it's fine if all of her old friends among the superdelegates give her the nomination instead, ignoring the Democratic voters.

7- Messsage has changes too many times to count. Obama--same message; same team.

8- If you can't manage a campaign budget, and have to loan it money, how do you oversee the US's gargantuan budget.

9- Played the lame crying-wimp card three times; that's two times to many.

10- The ultimate deal-breaker: Iraq vote and her triangualting, unapoligetic response.

Obama:
Clean campaign, not one distortion of Clinton's record. Played by the DNC's rules. Argues that whoever wins the most pledged delegates from the voters should be the nominee.
Easy call. I go with the guy who has displayed nothing but integrity, honesty, and character. One more vote for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 02/11/2008
- Jacee I'm a Fan of Jacee 18 fans permalink

I agree with every point.

May I add #11, will not disclose her tax returns an will not explain where the 5 million in cash came from to float her campaign.

This is a big issue for me. It smacks of dirty pool and Bush style response to a request for transparency.

Clinton needs to show the American people where the 5 million came from, explain why she will not be transparent (as Obama is) and apologize for her poor judgment in withholding this information.

Last remaining Hillary supporters: Please question why it is she will not disclose where the 5 million came from. It is NOT good enough to say that she will do it AFTER you vote. Bush all over again isn't it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 02/11/2008
- NC4Obama I'm a Fan of NC4Obama 16 fans permalink

They did number 1 right before the 5th as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 02/11/2008
- mrdontplay I'm a Fan of mrdontplay 3 fans permalink

Excellent point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 02/11/2008

I'll add a practical reason to the list:

12 - When Terry McAuliffe was in the DNC, he had California, New York, New Jersey, and Massachusettes - in other words, Hillary Clinton's base - to Super Tuesday in order to knock out any competition early, in preparation for her run for President.

Not only is that dirty pool, but if you can't win with THAT kind of advantage, then you really shouldn't be the party's nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 02/11/2008
- Seafarer61 I'm a Fan of Seafarer61 7 fans permalink

Anyone who claims that the Obama campaign hasn't made one remark that "distorted" Clinton's record is hopelessly naive and ill-informed. There is a limit to one's starry-eyed fawning for Obama and I believe you just met it. For example, Bill Clinton's "fairy tale" remark was in regard to how the media were glossing over Obama's military voting record. However, his campaign used those two words to describe how Clinton felt about Obama's rise itself.

Woefully misrepresented. They turned the primary season into a race campaign. It wasn't Bill Clinton who did so.

Pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 02/11/2008
- Jacee I'm a Fan of Jacee 18 fans permalink

Sea:

Really? Then why didn't Bill say that 'the media is glossing over Obama's military voting record'.

Bill, the political mastermind, uses words to mobilize people. He chose-deli­berately-t­o use the word Fairy to describe Obama during the SC contest.

He used the word Fairy to describe a black candidate right before they voted in a black state, where he was looking to peel off some of the black vote from Obama.

He used the word fairy because he knows the implications of that word in the back community, esp. in relationship to the MILITARY.

It was dirty, it was Rovian, it is how if you have no morals you label your opponent in the mind of the voter. Has nothing to do with anything except using the voters biases, fears and bigotry to get a vote.

Pathetic and very old school.

BTW, have you heard Obama EVER bring up all the old Clinton trash? No, and he won't. Even being behind through this whole race. He is a better person. He has morals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 02/11/2008
- nerakami I'm a Fan of nerakami 14 fans permalink

Please DO NOT be mis-guided. Bill Clinton knows what he did. He deliberately attempted to make this a white vs black thing. Black votes were split in the beginning between the two and Bill's vile attempt to pour more poison in our already vulnerable and fragile race relations was the last straw for a people who supported the Clintons 100% for the past 40 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 02/11/2008

Know what I love? I love it when people like you make a claim, give no example, then act like your post had substance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 02/11/2008
- RusStyles I'm a Fan of RusStyles 22 fans permalink

They must have locked you in the Clinton Kool-Aid factory over the weekend. Now, what did Obama say to distort Hill's record?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 02/11/2008

Just saw Rep Meeks on MSNBC, he's a Clinton booster and completely discounted the value of an Edwards endorsement. Is he telegraphing that the campaign already knows Edwards will endorse Obama? Why else would he say that such an endorsement, while coveted, is not all that important? Hmmm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 02/11/2008
- tkar I'm a Fan of tkar permalink

I really don't think endorsements matter in this day & age.. the Dems are gonna lose again anyway because they are doing the McGovern thing that landed them out of office for years on end.. anytime a party picks someone from the more extreme (right or left) wing of their party, it alienates voters & Obama isn't tough or experienced enough to run in the general election anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 02/11/2008
- Hughsie I'm a Fan of Hughsie 3 fans permalink

Yeah you're right.It really hurt the REpugs by nominating such a moderate like W!Get your head out of the sand.Neith­er Clinton or Obama are anywhere near as extreme as "PRESIDENT STUPID" is!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 02/11/2008
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This endorsement matters, he has delegates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 02/11/2008
- gypsy508 I'm a Fan of gypsy508 9 fans permalink

Yep. Like John Kerry, Al Gore and Walter Mondale.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 02/11/2008
- mrdontplay I'm a Fan of mrdontplay 3 fans permalink

...He shouldn't have run huh?

he should have just stayed home huh?

he caint unite parties either huh?

He caint have americans come together in record numbers huh?

Your right he caint do anything he should just pack up and go home.


Its a new day my friend.



OBAMA oh-eight!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 02/11/2008

Well if that's true, the the Democrats never had a chance. Again, it's hard to make the argument that Hillary Clinton would make a better general election candidate if, with all her advantages, she couldn't beat a 2-year-senator that nobody had heard of.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 02/11/2008
- FlowerGirl I'm a Fan of FlowerGirl 25 fans permalink

The most important things America MUST accomplish are (1) eliminate the illegitimate power of lobbyists. (John, go with Obama!) (2) Healing the wounds of division in our country. (John, go with Obama!) (3) Restore trust in government. (John, go with Obama!) (4) Repair our image abroad. (John, go with Obama!) (5) Work to bring about a more peacerful, co-operative world. (John, go ewith Obama!) (6) Put our national resources to better use than trying to build more weaponry than the rest of the world combined, and start to control that Military-Industrial Complex that Eisennhower warned us about! (Johnn, go with Obama and help him do it!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 02/11/2008
- Macready I'm a Fan of Macready 60 fans permalink

well said FlowerGirl . . . John Edwards go with Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 02/11/2008
- Nofoolhere I'm a Fan of Nofoolhere 12 fans permalink
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Let Edwards run as Obama's Vice President and assigned to focus on that anti corporate dimension of his campaign to bring back reasonable corporate regulation that is now totally out of control, and to control other corporate excesses that are harmful to the middle and underclasses.

An Edwards vice presidency would also have the salutary effect of cooling those right wing thugs who are not immune from assassinating Obama. It would give those Nazis pause to think of the forces against corporate dominance that would then be fully unleashed if Edwards should ascend to the Presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 02/11/2008
- alkamm I'm a Fan of alkamm 42 fans permalink
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I think that Edwards would do the party a favor by backing Obama and signalling his willingness to be a vice presidential candidate with him.
The only individual who could really do the country and the party a bigger favor would be Hillary who should be working on her concession speech.
This speech should make it clear that her decision to defer to the political genius of Obama is based on her trust and confidence that he can lead the Democrats to the most sweeping victory since Johnson's over Goldwater. Obama can help us retake a congress that will be devoid of the ability to fillibuster, but Hillary would probably not have those sorts of coat tails, despite the wishful thinking of those who think anybody can beat the Republicans this cycle. Some of these same people thought that Kerrey could do the same thing, but his negatives, like Hillary's outed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 02/11/2008
- mrdontplay I'm a Fan of mrdontplay 3 fans permalink

OBAMA-EDWARDS?

sounds good to me.

although i am not too high on edwards as his voting record doesn't match his rhetoric.

he voted for the bankruptcy law even though it was probably the most hurtful law to poor people in the last 10 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 02/11/2008

"An Edwards vice presidency would also have the salutary effect of cooling those right wing thugs who are not immune from assassinating Obama. It would give those Nazis pause to think of the forces against corporate dominance that would then be fully unleashed if Edwards should ascend to the Presidency­."

Ha! When Edwards was still running, I used to joke about an Obama/Edwards (or vice-versa) ticket being great insurance against assassination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 02/11/2008
- MizLiz I'm a Fan of MizLiz 59 fans permalink
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That's a good idea...bar­ring that, I'd like to see him as Attorney General. Clean house and bring in liberal democrats!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 02/11/2008
- Ginzaman I'm a Fan of Ginzaman 12 fans permalink

Edwards is right on several things:
Obama's not going for true universal health care.
Like it or not, if he's elected he'll be labelled THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT before anything else. I know nobody wants to deal with that right now. But it's going to happen.
Plus, in many areas he's playing it safe. There's difference between being tough with integrity and just being sleezy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 02/11/2008
- RusStyles I'm a Fan of RusStyles 22 fans permalink

Think people...N­o democrat will push through congress, a quasi socialized medicine bill. Obama's proposal has the most realisitc chance of making it through relatively unscathed; and even his will have to be modified.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 02/11/2008
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Your point??? So he is labeled the first black President, he will be inclined then, will he not, to be an outstanding President once given this honor?

If he is playing it safe, then HRC is playing it in toxic waste gear. The Iraq vote, it is there, it matters, she does not care. That is just lying. She cannot handle a crisis vote nor her money, she lost my respect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 02/11/2008

think much on your own? hillary does not offer universal health care. do you know the idfference between universal health care and universal health insurance?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 02/11/2008

"Like it or not, if he's elected he'll be labelled THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT before anything else. I know nobody wants to deal with that right now. But it's going to happen."

Huh? I think that's a reason a lot of people are excited about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 02/11/2008

He's a bit long in the tooth-- late in the game-- as we know the Potomac Tuesday is hopefully going Obama-- so what's he waiting for?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 02/11/2008
- mellene I'm a Fan of mellene 10 fans permalink

Too bad that Edwards might throw his support now. He should wait and hold it over the Democratic party to not cave in by using the super delegates to decide on our next president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 02/11/2008

Hopefully for America Edwards will announce after Tuesday and will announce for Obama. He and Elizabeth could really help in Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Combined with Edwards delegates, the endorsement could put Obama in which needs to get done.

We can't have a fight at the convention. Of note, was the obvious change in attitude of Hillary on 60 minutes. That was not an interview of someone who things she is going to win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 02/11/2008

I agree 100%.

An Edwards endorsement also kills the "Hillary is for the working class" narrative that her campaign is spinning of late.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 02/11/2008
- Harrier I'm a Fan of Harrier 10 fans permalink

Hillary's strategy seems to be unable to keep the Mexican and white votes in the same porporation she had earlier. She has fired her manager because of this. She sees a close fight and probably believes getting Edwards delegates wouldn't hurt if the race continues as tight. She is 24 delegates ahead of Obama. If she loses that lead, the momentum may work against her in some of th bigger states with more delegates she is expected to win-right now

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 02/11/2008
- BikerJim I'm a Fan of BikerJim 3 fans permalink

and don't forget that the 24 delegate lead is solely based on the superdelegates. In the pledged delegates (the ones that are earned or won) she is behind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 02/11/2008
- ljsfolly I'm a Fan of ljsfolly 6 fans permalink

I can only hope he has more leaned to Barack as the need for a new direction is also his idealogy. Barack came from very poor as he did. But I also know enough about the politics that clintons use and that is giving something along the lines of a carrot to John if he throws in with them. I don't see Barack as giving John anything but the promise he will do as much as he can to include John's fight for right action in his presidency. The sell out I would feel would be to go with clinton and I hope he doesn't. I would rather he not endorse than to give in to her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 02/11/2008

It is obvious that he will endorse Obama!!!

Obama/Powell 08!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 02/11/2008
- RusStyles I'm a Fan of RusStyles 22 fans permalink

Now that what I call the ultimate "dream" ticket...O­r perhaps fairy tale is more appropos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 02/11/2008
- mrdontplay I'm a Fan of mrdontplay 3 fans permalink

Obama/Powell sounds really good.

We need more diversity though.

Obama/Webb is a good idea though

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 02/11/2008

Obama/Powell is the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard.

Haha, where the hell did THAT come from?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 02/11/2008
- lvogt I'm a Fan of lvogt 25 fans permalink

Absolutely no to Powell. He helped lie us into the war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 02/11/2008
- ruffmama I'm a Fan of ruffmama 24 fans permalink
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Please pick Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 02/11/2008
- desmirl I'm a Fan of desmirl 9 fans permalink

Go for Obama, John. Hilary is so... yesterday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 02/11/2008

You do realize we're electing the most powerful human being on earth, and not whether plaid is in style this season, don't you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 02/11/2008
- Dalpine I'm a Fan of Dalpine 6 fans permalink

Is it in style to mismanage money and staff?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 02/11/2008
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