Edwards Endorsement For Obama: Speculation Grows

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First Posted: 02-13-08 04:11 PM   |   Updated: 05-14-08 04:06 PM

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Seeking Edwards Nod

UPDATE - 5/14: The Obama campaign has announced a "major national endorsement" for a rally tonight at 7pm in Michigan, and the rumor mill is swirling that it is none other than Sen. John Edwards. Time's Mark Halperin is teasing as much at his Web site, with a photo of Edwards and the text, "Ready to choose? Ready to hope?"

Edwards has certainly dropped some hints in recent days. He's chided Hillary Clinton over her comments about race, said he can't figure out how Clinton could ever win the nomination, and even said he planned to endorse the person he voted for in North Carolina's primary, using (it seems) the word "him."

That said, in an interview with People magazine, Edwards said of Obama, "Sometimes I want to see more substance under the rhetoric."

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UPDATE: 2/21: Although David Plouffe wasn't in town meeting John Edwards, it appears he was meeting with Edwards' supporters:

About two dozen Democrats gathered in the law offices of Kirby & Holt at noon today to listen to a one-hour talk by David Plouffe, the campaign manager for Barack Obama.


Several participants said there was no explicit pitch for the backers of former Sen. John Edwards. In fact, Plouffe went out of his way to say he understood that some Edwards backers may not be ready to make another choice yet, Rob Christensen reports.

UPDATE 2/21: Obama campaign manager was spotted in the homestate of John Edwards, a full two months before the state's primary:

Plouffe swore up and down to the paper that he wasn't there on a stealth mission to court Edwards' endorsement. Instead, he was there to raise money and organize, in the believe that North Carolina's May 6th primary could prove pivotal.


Plouffe seems like a pretty major player to be spending time merely organizing in a state who's primary is over two months away, but we'll take his word for it.

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UPDATE 2/18:Following on yesterday's meeting Barack Obama adopted the rhetoric of his formal rival, albeit without providing much information about the substance of their conversation:

"I think John still has an enormous following, I think he has a lot of credibility and so we would love to have his support," Obama said. "But right now, what I think is most important is for me to make sure that I am getting out and talking to voters."


What will be "most helpful ultimately," Obama said, "is that the people have a sense that I will be fighting for them in the White House, that my priorities are their priorities. If they know that, then the endorsements will probably have less sway."

UPDATE 2/17: John Edwards and Barack Obama have finally had their private meeting in Chapel Hill:

Mr. Obama, who canceled an afternoon campaign trip to Wisconsin, flew to Chapel Hill, N.C., to meet with John and Elizabeth Edwards this morning. The meeting was quietly rescheduled after a session Monday with the two men was postponed because too much attention was being paid to it and camera crews were staking out Mr. Edwards' home.

Obama has said not to expect much out of the meeting:

"I don't think there's any imminent news," Obama told CBS affiliate WISC-TV this afternoon. "We were exchanging views, he was giving me some thoughts, and obviosuly he's gonna be a big force in the Democratic party for many years to come."


Campaign officials would not specify whether the meeting included a promise of an Edwards endorsement.

Also, AP reports tonight that Clinton has been wooing the Edwardses more effectively:

People close to the Edwardses, speaking privately, say they have been torn about whom to support. The former North Carolina senator is concerned that Obama may not be ready for the presidency and that his health care plan is inferior. But Edwards was highly critical of Clinton - her policies, her ties to special interests and her character - during his campaign, making it more difficult to support her now.


The couple has been impressed with Clinton, who has more effectively courted them since the 2004 vice presidential nominee dropped out, people who talk to the Edwardses say. Obama has been less attentive, they say, and some of those close to the Edwardses have been annoyed that Obama has continued to ridicule him for once saying his biggest weakness is that he has a powerful response to seeing pain in others.

Still, since Edwards has left the race, Obama often praises him in public. This week he told Wisconsin voters that Edwards will "be a major voice in the Democratic party for years to come, and I want him involved and partnering with me in moving this country forward."

UPDATE 2/15: Edwards' top backers are tilting overwhelmingly to Obama:

Jim and Susan Phillips were loyal supporters of fellow North Carolina Democrat John Edwards and backed up their support with money. But a day after Edwards dropped out of the presidential race last month, Susan Phillips sent $500 to Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois.


"He is the most likely guy to bring people together and the guy with the most potential to fundamentally change the way we do business in the United States," said Jim Phillips, a Greensboro lawyer and chairman of the UNC system board of governors.

Of the $44 million Edwards raised through December, more than $2.6 million came from the Carolinas.

Interviews with nearly 20 of Edwards' top contributors in the Carolinas, selected randomly, showed a majority of them tilting toward Obama, with some undecided.

No contributors said they're ready to back Hillary Clinton.

UPDATE 2/13: John Edwards is "as split as the party he once hoped to lead -- and is seriously considering supporting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, despite the sharp criticism he leveled at her on the campaign trail, according to former aides and advisers," ABC News reports:

In deciding between his one-time rivals, Edwards appears deeply divided. Several former advisers likened his thought process to a heart-versus-head split -- with his heart favoring Sen. Barack Obama's strong message of change, and his head attracted to Clinton's tested nature and commitment to tough fights.


Though he sometimes aligned himself with Obama -- and against Clinton -- as a candidate, several Edwards campaign insiders say the former senator began to sour on Obama toward the end of his own campaign, and ultimately left the race questioning whether Obama had the toughness needed to prevail in a presidential race.

"He is much more torn than people realize," said one former aide who has stayed in contact with Edwards. "Honestly, he has serious reservations about both of them."

UPDATE: Tonight's meeting between Obama and Edwards has been postponed, according to ABC's Political Radar:

While it is unclear which party ultimately pulled the plug on tonight's meeting between Obama and Edwards, sources indicate the meeting will be rescheduled in coming days.


No cause was given for the abrupt rescheduling but sources have indicated that the Obama campaign and Edwards wished that the meeting would be done in private without massive media attention.

Former Sen. John Edwards "met with Hillary Clinton Thursday in North Carolina, and is meeting with Barack Obama Monday, to discuss a possible primary endorsement." CNN reports:

The Thursday meeting, which took place at Edwards' home in Chapel Hill, was followed by a Saturday night session during which the former North Carolina senator and several longtime advisers discussed many issues, including which candidate he should endorse. [...]


At a Chapel Hill party yesterday for Edwards supporters, he gave no indication who he might endorse, or whether that endorsement is imminent. Some advisers are encouraging him not to endorse.

The former candidate is weighing a number of considerations before making his choice - including electability, and who will best promote his ideas.

There are policy considerations at play: there is a sense within the Edwards camp that Clinton's policies could be better for working class Americans. But Obama's anti-lobbyist proposals are more aligned with Edwards' politics.

In response to a CNN report that Elizabeth Edwards may favor Obama over Clinton, sources close to the Edwards family flatly deny that she favors one candidate over the other.

Greg Sargent at TPM Election Central spoke to an Edwards aide who offered more details, including: "There's a greater than 50% chance he will endorse."

The Edwards aide cautioned against reading too much into the meetings, saying that he'd been talking to both of them before. "He's torn," the aide said "He has reservations about Hillary, which are pretty apparent."


On Obama, the aide says, Edwards worries "whether he's tough enough to be President of the United States. If you look at what Edwards ran on, which is not negotiating with the special interests, taking away their power, that's pretty different than the Obama model."

The Edwards aide added that Obama's lack of a health care plan with a "mandate" is a "tough hurdle for him to get over." He added, however, that Edwards is much more in line with Obama on other issues.

UPDATE - 5/14: The Obama campaign has announced a "major national endorsement" for a rally tonight at 7pm in Michigan, and the rumor mill is swirling that it is none other than Sen. John Edwards. Time...
UPDATE - 5/14: The Obama campaign has announced a "major national endorsement" for a rally tonight at 7pm in Michigan, and the rumor mill is swirling that it is none other than Sen. John Edwards. Time...
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The headline at the frontpage is quite amusing, "secret meeting" between Edwards and Obama; how can it be secret when the media were there like Crowley of CNN? The headline make it sound like a clandestine operation is going on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 AM on 02/18/2008
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Whatever you say Freeper.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 AM on 02/18/2008
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I'm not so concerned to reading or listening to "secret meeting" as "sneaked off". The media continuously aligns the minds with deceptive word viruses by herding the mind into a direction of thought the media wants. "Sneaked off" is an underhanded way of doing things further implying that they shouldn't be doing it in the first place. "Sneaking off" I can see tagged onto other politicians GW Bush or HW Bush, but not Edwards or Obama at this point in their race for their presidency isn't necessarily We the People's race. Seems these days the presidency is separate from the people who elected them to begin with. Our government belongs to them while We the Perople have no real government to call our own. We are the fodder... the Serfs; they, the Elite, are the
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 AM on 02/18/2008
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"....word viruses...." Someone's been reading Burroughs, postmodern master of description and deconstructing the image manipulation of the masses by the plutocrats and m.i. industrialists and the co-creative nature of reality. Well, he got a bit paranoid, but, all in all, he is a liberator in the media consciousness field. Bravo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 AM on 02/18/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 AM on 02/18/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 AM on 02/18/2008
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Excellent article and worth a close read:

As video consumers become progressively more impatient with the process of acquiring information through written language, all politicians find themselves under great pressure to deliver their messages as quickly as possible -- and quickness today is much quicker than it used to be. Harvard University's Kiku Adatto found that between 1968 and 1988, the average sound bite on the news for a presidential candidate -- featuring the candidate's own voice -- dropped from 42.3 seconds to 9.8 seconds. By 2000, according to another Harvard study, the daily candidate bite was down to just 7.8 seconds.

The shrinking public attention span fostered by video is closely tied to the second important anti-intellectual force in American culture: the erosion of general knowledge.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/15/AR2008021502901.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 AM on 02/18/2008
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Do you have a link to that in video form? ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 AM on 02/18/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 AM on 02/18/2008
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Welcome, bloggy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 AM on 02/18/2008
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Don't welcome me, welcome Page 28. But it's to late now... :-(

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 AM on 02/18/2008
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Watching Michelle Obama on last week's Larry King; she's pretty cool. And for some time I've wanted to say what a smooth idea it was for the both of them to adopt 1962 fashion; she literally is sporting a major Laura Petrie look right now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 AM on 02/18/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 AM on 02/18/2008

I'm new here and I've never posted before but I'd just like to say that Hufftards never hold their discussions to the high level of discourse that I am used to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 02/18/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 02/18/2008
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Please go to my profile and research my numerous links. I have carpal tunnel so I can't post them here myself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 AM on 02/18/2008
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No thanks, I'll just go to The New Media Journal and get all my info there. Cuts out the middle man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 AM on 02/18/2008
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Hey GM, Looks like you are pissing off the Freepers.

Well done!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 AM on 02/18/2008
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Personally, I don't think the endorsement by other politicians should count very much as they can only really express their opinions unless they effect the super delegates vote.
I suspect there's horse trading going on in the back of the barn!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 AM on 02/18/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 AM on 02/18/2008
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Very nice prose, but not at all relevant to the election. Issues, please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 AM on 02/18/2008
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Weird, I may have been censored.
I'd find it hard to see Edwards endorsing Clinton who is quite the Corporation and Bush admin enabler given what the thrust of his campaign was.
It'd make me wonder if his campaign was the Democratic party's fluffing of the left to help keep the Naderites at bay.
He's better off not endorsing until some of these primaries are over. It's one thing to campaign on poverty and controlling corporations when the enemy is the Republicans but it's another thing to have to target the corporate wing of your own party.
If he feels anything about this issue he needs to go with Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 AM on 02/18/2008

Well, I don't think Edwards carries much weight. He's run for president twice and hardly ever made out of the middle of the pack. He was of no help whatsoever to Kerry in 2004.
For all I care he can endorse Obama tomorrow and then head for the beauty parlor to have his hair done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 AM on 02/18/2008

Here is more extreme paparazzi spy telephoto footage of the meeting, which is bound to piss off Hill:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGMgxFE6bms

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 02/18/2008
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It pisses me off. Republican bile.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 AM on 02/18/2008
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Definitely troll drool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 02/18/2008

Paid Republicon shill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 AM on 02/18/2008

Quote from this article: The couple has been impressed with Clinton, who has more effectively courted them since the 2004 vice presidential nominee dropped out, people who talk to the Edwardses say. Obama has been less attentive".

After reading that, I like the idea that Senator Obama is NOT OVERLY courting Edwards. He's asked for his support but not willing to kiss his butt. I respect John Edwards but that is fading fast. It's starting to appear his motives are about self preservation rather than his "agenda for the poor".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 AM on 02/18/2008
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Why would you think that about Edwards?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 02/18/2008

What on Earth made you reach that conclusion?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 AM on 02/18/2008
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Hillary rips Barack Obama off by rigging elections. How can Barack Obama get zero vote out of 80 districts. These districts are predominantly black. I just do not understand! I think the feds need to get involved with this.

www.nypost.com/seven/02162008/news/regionalnews/obama_robbed_in_ny_97932.htmm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 02/18/2008
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Editor's note: A man named Larry Sinclair accuses Barack Obama of homosexual acts and drug use in a video posted on YouTube. This Minnesota man claims he took cocaine in 1999 with the then-Illinois legislator and participated in homosexual acts with him. When his story was ignored by the news media, Larry Sinclair made his case last month in a YouTube video, which has been viewed a quarter-million times. And when it was still ignored by the media, Sinclair filed a suit in Minnesota District Court, alleging threats and intimidation by Obama's staff. Sinclair, who says he is willing to submit to a polygraph test to validate his claims, will now get his chance – thanks to a website offering $10,000 for the right to record it and $100,000 to Sinclair if he passes. "My motivation for making this public is my desire for a presidential candidate to be honest." "I didn't want the sex thing to come out. But I think it is important for the candidate to be honest about his drug use as late as 1999." Sinclair, who describes himself as "gay," claims he "personally engaged in sexual activity and personally used illegal drugs in November 1999" with the man who is now the leading Democratic presidential candidate. He claims the activity took place in the back of Sinclair's limousine and occurred again, later, in his hotel. Sinclair also says he personally no longer uses drugs. In his lawsuit, filed last week, he charges his civil rights have been violated by Obama and the Democratic Party. Named as defendants in the case are the presidential candidate, David Axelrod of AKP Message and Media in Chicago and the Democratic National Committee.
Sinclair charges Obama smoked crack cocaine in the limo while Sinclair snorted powdered cocaine provided by the legislator. He says the two met in an upscale Chicago lounge before leaving in Sinclair's limousine where the drug use and sex took place for the first time. Calls placed to the Obama campaign were not returned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 AM on 02/18/2008
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What a kind and thoughtful man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 AM on 02/18/2008
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who let this crack head post on this blog. Man you can not go any where with these crack head. Man you need to get some help.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 AM on 02/18/2008
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http://www.nypost.com/seven/02162008/news/regionalnews/obama_robbed_in_ny_97932.htm

I would get a second opinion for that New York Post article.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 AM on 02/18/2008

Will.I.Am video "yes we can" can't compare to the new Hillary video - you be the judge!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvyGydc8no

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 02/18/2008
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I don't watch remakes. Or horror films.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 02/18/2008
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that Hillary video is cringe worthy. It's like watching Wham! sing "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go"- 80s all the way, just like Hill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 AM on 02/18/2008
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It looks so "New Christy Minstrels" Republican!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 AM on 02/18/2008

Sorry, please don't take this personally, but Hillary's new video doesn't do a thing for me. Period. It's just an, imo, annoying marketing tool - nothing more, nothing less. It doesn't change who I think she is or what she represents - big business! The only thing she has going for her is that she's not crazy like McInsane - she's just power-mad (with a voice I can't stomach)!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 AM on 02/18/2008
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Are you joking? If not, I guess your taste in music is as bad as your taste in candidates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 AM on 02/18/2008
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Dude! That is almost as good as this one!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVENWl8uBeg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 AM on 02/18/2008
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My bet is Clinton will get the Edwards nod. Knowing the Clintons, I am sure they have some dirt on Edward's love interest - Rielle Hunter - that Obama does not have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 02/18/2008
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Actually, from my inside source, the Obama campaign got the "goods" from some of the former Edwards' campaigners now working for Obama...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 02/18/2008
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It is my understanding that Edwards is really a cyborg from the future here to kill the child that will grow up to lead the revolution against the machines.

And I bet you can't prove me wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 AM on 02/18/2008
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