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John McCain Goes After Barack Obama

  |   February 13, 2008 12:51 PM


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UPDATE II: Politico's Jonathan Martin reports: McCain campaign manager Rick Davis "today sent an unmistakable message to Barack Obama over the Illinois Democrat's effort to stoke the obvious age contrast between himself and the 71-year-old McCain: Bring it on.:

"It's nice of him to constantly point out how nice he thinks of John McCain and his half-century of service to our country," Davis said sardonically. "I don't think he can get that ["half-century" line] out enough."


"I actually think half a century of service to our country is a good thing. If you would like to talk about the day John McCain went into the Naval Academy and pledged his loyalty to our country and everything that's happened since then, let's prosecute that. We love those kinds of discussions."

Davis, speaking at a Washington luncheon with reporters, also extended the criticism leveled by his candidate last night, suggesting that the 46-year-old Obama was offering vague rhetoric to mask liberal views.

"I think it's easy to say, 'let's have hope,'" Davis said. "But hope has to come into some form.

And Obama responded to to McCain, telling a crowd in Wisconsin that the GOP senator had "traded principles for his party's nomination."

Obama argued McCain has acted like President George W. Bush on the economy and on the Iraq war.


"George Bush may not be on the ballot this fall, but his tax cut and his economic policies are... that is a debate that I'm happy to have, because the American people know that Bush's policies have not worked for ordinary Americans," Obama said.

Obama said he was surprised by McCain's recent criticism of his economic policy - direct criticisms McCain started in the last few days.

"Economics is not his strong suit," Obama said with a smile, "he said 'I don't understand economics very well', and after he said that, it shows."

Obama told the audience that he believes McCain's economic policies would be "more of the same" of Bush tax policies - and argued McCain's position has undergone a transformation since running for president.


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UPDATE: John McCain again attacked Obama on Wednesday.

As he did Tuesday night, McCain focused much of his criticism on Obama, Tuesday's winner on the Democratic side.


"I respect him and the campaign that he has run, but there's going to come a time when we have to get into specifics," McCain told reporters Wednesday on Capitol Hill. "I've not observed every speech he's given, obviously, but they are singularly lacking in specifics."

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In his victory speech after the Potomac primaries, John McCain took several thinly veiled shots at Barack Obama, claiming that offering "only rhetoric" to advance the country "is not the promise of hope. It is a platitute."

Hope, my friends, is a powerful thing. I can attest to that better than many, for I have seen men's hopes tested in hard and cruel ways that few will ever experience. And I stood astonished at the resilience of their hope in the darkest of hours because it did not reside in an exaggerated belief in their individual strength, but in the support of their comrades, and their faith in their country. My hope for our country resides in my faith in the American character, the character which proudly defends the right to think and do for ourselves, but perceives self-interest in accord with a kinship of ideals, which, when called upon, Americans will defend with their very lives.


To encourage a country with only rhetoric rather than sound and proven ideas that trust in the strength and courage of free people is not a promise of hope. It is a platitude.

When I was a young man, I thought glory was the highest ambition, and that all glory was self-glory. My parents tried to teach me otherwise, as did the Naval Academy. But I didn't understand the lesson until later in life, when I confronted challenges I never expected to face.

McCain ended the salvo by ripping off one of Obama's signature lines:

As I have done my entire career, I will make my case to every American who will listen. I will not confine myself to the comfort of speaking only to those who agree with me. I will make my case to all the people. I will listen to those who disagree. I will attempt to persuade them. I will debate. And I will learn from them. But I will fight every moment of every day for what I believe is right for t his country, and I will not yield.


And, my friends, I promise you, I am fired up and ready to go.

Meanwhile, TPM's Greg Sargent highlights Obama's speech tonight drawing increasingly clear contrasts with McCain:

When I am the nominee, I will offer a clear choice. John McCain won't be able to say that I ever supported this war in Iraq, because I opposed it from the beginning. Senator McCain said the other day that we might be mired for a hundred years in Iraq, which is reason enough to not give him four years in the White House.


If we had chosen a different path, the right path, we could have finished the job in Afghanistan, and put more resources into the fight against bin Laden; and instead of spending hundreds of billions of dollars in Baghdad, we could have put that money into our schools and hospitals, our road and bridges - and that's what the American people need us to do right now.

And I admired Senator McCain when he stood up and said that it offended his "conscience" to support the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy in a time of war; that he couldn't support a tax cut where "so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate." But somewhere along the road to the Republican nomination, the Straight Talk Express lost its wheels, because now he's all for them.

Well I'm not. We can't keep spending money that we don't have in a war that we shouldn't have fought. We can't keep mortgaging our children's future on a mountain of debt. We can't keep driving a wider and wider gap between the few who are rich and the rest who struggle to keep pace. It's time to turn the page.


 
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McCain, the Manchurian Candidate whose main claim to fame is; he got shot down and spent 5 years at the Hanoi Hilton.

He is a Senile, Bitter, Angry and Violent man who never met a War he did not wholeheartedly embrace.

He still thinks we should have and could have won the war in Vietnam if only we allowed the Boots on the ground do their job, of course he never gives a clear explanation of why he was dropping bombs on the Vietnamese people or exactly why we were there?

The rapidly aging old gent would be pathetic joke if he were not such a dangerous warmonger, but alas he will be no match for our heavy weight political champ, Barak Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 02/14/2008

I attended a Caucus for the 1st time this year. I am not a "hard core" activist. I'm not an activist at all. And for your information we had a very diverse mass of people at our caucus. In my precinct we had representation of the following -
20 somethings
80 something - white male
40 something black females
30 something hispanic females
50 something white male
40 something white females
60 something white males
30 something Asian female

There were only 2 people in our group that had been to a caucus before. The 80 something white male - WWII Vet and a 60 something white male.

Results were -
3 total delegates - 2 for Obama and 1 for Hillary

I don't think it's a fact that caucus states are made up of just activists - I just think that was Hillary's way of having an excuse for not winning more states.

It's really sad that the people from Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania are not easily inspired - maybe things might be better in this country if they were.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 02/14/2008

Sorry - replied to wrong post. I meant to reply to alm123.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 02/14/2008
- pizzmoe I'm a Fan of pizzmoe 20 fans permalink

McCain knows a lot about hundred year long wars, having fought in the Hundred Years War.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 02/14/2008
- RedRooster I'm a Fan of RedRooster 21 fans permalink

"If McCain is truly a serious contender for the presidency, it is time the rest of the nation learned about the John McCain we know in Arizona. There is also reason to seriously question whether he has the temperament, and the political approach and skills, we want in the next president of the United States."

~ Arizona Republic Editorial
Sunday, Oct. 31, 1999

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 02/14/2008
- Brebro I'm a Fan of Brebro 4 fans permalink
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OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 02/14/2008
- bimplebean I'm a Fan of bimplebean 9 fans permalink
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If nothing else, at least the salvos being fired in both directions are substantive, and focus on real problems Americans face and the real differences in the solutions the candidates are offering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 02/14/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 267 fans permalink

Hey McCain:

You Can't win a WAR CRIME!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 02/14/2008
- RedRooster I'm a Fan of RedRooster 21 fans permalink

nice :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 02/14/2008

That's rich: McCain is portraying himself as a self-made man and Obama as an "upstart" leading a "charmed political life." Let's remember that McCain's father and grandfather were both four-star admirals and he attended the U.S. Naval Academy. It would strain credulity to think family connections counted for nothing in his life.

Seems to me that a community organizer from a modest family at best has the better claim to self-made man.

Forget debates. Obama should challenge McCain to a 50-yard dash.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 02/14/2008
- HanFeiTzu I'm a Fan of HanFeiTzu 2 fans permalink

Nor should we forget McCain's marrying into money (ditching his older wife) and his direct involvement in the S&L crisis. Oh yes John you have years of public service experience; all of which is for your own enrichment.

You deserve to loose against Obama, but Clinton may be a different story; two of a kind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 02/14/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 63 fans permalink

Given your name, I will save my English teacher response and merely let you know the word you meant to use is "lose" against Obama. Perhaps you were an ESOL student at one time in your life? About half the posters type "loose" for "lose"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 02/15/2008

The choice is a no-brainer.

McCain did trade his principles for his nomination. Anyone following the 2000 race knows he cut a deal with Bush after accepting the attack on his child and wife. What a whimp. Just the kind of man every woman would want.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 02/14/2008
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These guys are really pissed off at Ol'Mac.
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 02/14/2008
- Lalo I'm a Fan of Lalo 2 fans permalink

Thanks for the poison pill, Mr. Swiftboater

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 02/14/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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A repub Troll calling a vet a swiftboater? Untangle the outrage from that, folks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 02/14/2008
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~tips beret~
At your public service.
Y'welcome!

Mind you, I don't subscribe to those fellers' point of view.
I merely present them as one facet of Mr. McCain's popularity
with veterans across the political spectrum.

As for me, I wouldn't piss on him if he caught fire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 02/14/2008

I have a perfect ad against McCain:
Footage of McCain saying "we will be in Iraq for 100 years", followed by McCain singing "Bomb, bomb, Iran" followed by footage of McCain saying "my friends, we will have many wars in the future". How about the picture of McCain embracing Bush as if he were in love with Bush? So much great material to work with, I hope the democrats will be smart and use all this material that McCain has freely provided.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 02/14/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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Sounds good to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 02/14/2008

Yep...that photo of McCrackers with his face shoved into BOOOsh's armpit is PRICELESS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 02/14/2008
- tfred I'm a Fan of tfred 5 fans permalink
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And end the whole thing with tape of an exploding Atomic Bomb....Oh wait that's been done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 02/14/2008

The DNC should make room on its website for ad submissions by voters - Dems could then vote for the best & the party could pay to air it.

This idea would kill. Its great!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 02/14/2008

Let's not forget his latest flip-flop on TORTURE, of all things!?!

Talk about tossing your principals out the window for "self-glory". Truly pathetic..­.

OBAMA '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 02/14/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 63 fans permalink

I agree about his torture vote!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 02/15/2008
- in4success I'm a Fan of in4success 43 fans permalink

If this is the direction in which John McCain wants the campaign to go, Democrats are even luckier than I had hoped.

As he did Tuesday night, McCain focused much of his criticism on Obama, Tuesday’s winner on the Democratic side.

“I respect him and the campaign that he has run, but there’s going to come a time when we have to get into specifics,” McCain told reporters Wednesday on Capitol Hill. “I’ve not observed every speech he’s given, obviously, but they are singularly lacking in specifics.­”

Now, the claim that Obama lacks specifics is, on its face, false. Obama’s campaign has presented detailed policy prescriptions on almost every issue under the sun. If McCain wants to argue that these policies are wrong and offer alternatives, more power to him. But to pretend they don’t exist is just silly.

But the more important point is that McCain is going after Obama on one of his own biggest weaknesses. We’re talking about a candidate who’s running on a powerful personal story, but whose understanding of policy details is almost Bush-like. Last year, for example, McCain explained his position on Iraqi reconciliation this way: “One of the things I would do if I were President would be to sit the Shiites and the Sunnis down and say, ‘Stop the bullshit.’­” This is what passes for “policy specifics” in John McCain World.


LINK TO FULL STORY: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/14/meet-mr-vague-generalities/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 02/14/2008
- Lalo I'm a Fan of Lalo 2 fans permalink

His campaign just now accused Obama of stealing Clinton's economic proposal. This is going to get ugly even faster than I thought. Bye bye, Barry!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 02/14/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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And if you click your heels three times you'll be naked in the shower with Hillary. Again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 02/14/2008
- springsm I'm a Fan of springsm 53 fans permalink

While McCain does not have an ivy league education, he certainly got where he got because of his father and grandfather in the Navy. He was like bush in too mnay ways..so he should not be mixing the stew in this pot. I think it would just special if Obama could make "myfriends" McCain angry and finally we will see this man's demeanor when angered. This guy needs to retire soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 02/14/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 63 fans permalink

Guess who's signature is on the distinguished flying cross commendation Bush #41 received. I saw it in the Presidential Library last year...I think that was the commendation title...I was so intrigued to see Admiral McCain's name on the darn thing that I forgot the actual commendation's name.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 02/15/2008
- Boadicea I'm a Fan of Boadicea 65 fans permalink

Now not only the Clintons, but the whole Republican party are desperate to take Obama down. For the Clintons, they're desperate to hold on to their power in the Democratic Party. For the Republicans - well, if Obama takes the nom, they're toast.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 02/14/2008
- in4success I'm a Fan of in4success 43 fans permalink

and the GOP want hillary as the nominee becuase they have a shit-load of scandal they're sitting on to attack her with -- the least of which is NOT:

http://www.lukeford.net/profiles/profiles/huma_abedin.htm

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xq8aopATYyw

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 02/14/2008
- TXfemmom I'm a Fan of TXfemmom 194 fans permalink

I didn't think we could outdo GW on the nasty and bad President scale, but I do believe that McCain has the absolute most dismal qualities of both Bush and Cheney, all rolled up into one, ugly, old-assed, stubborn, ill-guided old fart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 02/14/2008
- RedRooster I'm a Fan of RedRooster 21 fans permalink

With his quick temper and anger management issues, I don't want McNuggets anywhere near the nuclear launch codes!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 02/14/2008

I guess if Obama is the nominee he doesn't think he will need us old-assed, old farts, so I will oblige him by supporting John McCain if Obama is the democratic nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 02/14/2008
- savertime I'm a Fan of savertime 4 fans permalink

Then you can give your grandkids a nice send off as they head for the middle-east.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 02/14/2008
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Sometimes people read into things. Did it ever occur to you that perhaps Obama says he salutes John McCain's half century of service because it just sounds more lyrical than saying his "really lot of service"? So why do you assume Obama says he doesn't need older people? -- Because some dipstick reporter claimed that line is about age?

If I write that McCain is parroting Hillary's lines about Obama because they are great friends and he hopes to spend hours drinking with her after debates on the campaign trail, does that make it true?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 02/14/2008
- fleetw1978 I'm a Fan of fleetw1978 5 fans permalink

It really boils down to one thing with Mcain. His most recent position on Iraq is as follows: "It's not about the "war", It's about the casualties"
If that is in fact the case, then under Mcains logic, the surge is in fact a failure. US troop casualties in 2007 were the highest in 3 or 4 yrs. Someone needs to ask Mr mcain, what is an acceptable level of US casualties. Is it 100 a month, 200 a month? What is "acceptable"? Especially since the Iraqies have had 4 yrs to raise and train an army to defend themselves against themselves. It is a fact that Al Quada in Iraq is supposedly only 5 - 10 percent of the violence in that failed state. Hammer Mcain on this position and GAME OVER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 02/14/2008
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Even without "casualties" factored in (and Iraqi casualties should matter as well, the Iraq War will still be a drain to our economy so long as we are stationed there.

It has already cost us $494,338,122,000, it has not made us any safer from terrorism and it has not improved the quality of life for the average Iraqi citizen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 02/14/2008

Every single time I'm updated on the obscene amount of money WASTED, I'm taken back to the Kerry/Bush debate when Kerry was accused of inflating the estimate to, what was it?...$20 billion (or was it million?).­..for political gain.

Yeah, he was off the mark, alright.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 02/14/2008
- Jazz42 I'm a Fan of Jazz42 6 fans permalink

Americam soldiers present in
It's an occupation pure and simple. It was a war of choice by the Bush and company.
Iraq didn't attack The United States on 9/11/2001 .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 02/14/2008
- laocoon I'm a Fan of laocoon 31 fans permalink

We are in a war or wars where there is no nation that can surrender, where the enemy is only vaguely defined, where the apparent goal would seem to involve winning over the muslim population in the middle east, where the war itself is used to justify unprecedented powers for the office McCain seeks, Where there is no coherent explanation or model to explain/predict how the military actions are designed to create a change of attitude in the muslim populations, where the only definition of victory ever offered is that we will have victory when the Iraqis reach some goal that is never really objectively defined, when the possibility of another invasion is palpable. McCain continuously counsels that we must not surrender and must "win" I have yet to hear him or anyone in the prowar faction define winning in any more specific or substantive manner nor have I heard any coherent model as to how our conduct is going to win over the population other that continuing to kill terrorist as they arise and sit on the Iraqis with military presence. Senator McCain you are the one who needs to provide substance rather than the stream of platitudes about the war that do not go beyond the slogans of a high school pep rally. "last throws", "we will stand down as they stand up", "we fight them there so we dont have to here" "winning the war" "never surrender" --- platitudes Mr. McCain. Empty Rhetoric. Pot calling the kettle black senator. Provide us with a definition of victory and a coherent and a detailed model of how our military involvement will lead to that victory.Ex­plain specifically how our presence in Irag will literally prevent 19 or so terrorists from slipping away to the US? Dont rely on the slogans and generalities we have been given for 5 years. Put up or shut up about Obama's vague rhetoric about hope. You and your party are in no position to criticize.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 02/14/2008

Hear, hear!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 02/14/2008
- in4success I'm a Fan of in4success 43 fans permalink

the war on terror is a farce -- not supposed to ve an end to it . . . EVER! -- watch and enlighten: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 02/14/2008
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McCain's YouTube video.....­.....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bzd5nLzZjcc

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 02/14/2008

LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 02/14/2008
- RedRooster I'm a Fan of RedRooster 21 fans permalink

McCain's Iraq Withdrawal Date: 12008.

Good Luck with that in November.

McCain in 2008: Like Hope, but Different.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 02/14/2008

That was hilarious! Thanks for sharing it, I will certainly be passing it along.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 02/14/2008
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