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JEANNINE AVERSA | February 13, 2008 11:53 PM EST | AP

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President Bush, second from right, greets, from left, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of Calif. and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Md., in the East Room of the White House in Washington, Wednesday, Feb. 13, 2008, during the signing ceremony for the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Ky. is at right. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)

WASHINGTON — The checks aren't in the mail, but they will be soon. President Bush signed legislation Wednesday to rush rebates ranging from $300 to $1,200 to millions of people, the centerpiece of government efforts to brace the wobbly economy. First, though, you must file your 2007 tax return.

More than 130 million people are expected to get the rebates, starting around May. Congress, Bush, the Federal Reserve and Wall Street are hoping the money will burn such a hole in people's pockets that they won't be able to resist spending it. And the spending is supposed to give an energizing jolt to a national economy that is in danger of toppling into a recession if it hasn't already.

Whether people actually spend the money remains to be seen. A recent Associated Press-Ipos poll indicates most people have other plans. Forty-five percent said they planned to pay off bills, while 32 percent said they would save or invest it. Only 19 percent said they would spend their rebates.

The measure Bush signed _ a $168 billion rescue package passed with lightning speed by Congress last week _ includes not only rebates for individuals but also tax breaks for businesses to spur investment in new plants and equipment. That, too, would help bolster U.S. economic activity. The package also contains provisions aimed at helping struggling homeowners clobbered by the housing collapse and the credit crunch refinance into more affordable mortgages.

The emergency plan marked a rare moment of cooperation among political rivals fearful that an ailing economy during an election year would invite voter retaliation.

Bush, who called the measure "a booster shot for our economy," praised the bipartisan cooperation. "We have come together on a single mission _ and that is to put the people's interests first," he said.

Who gets a rebate? Most people who pay taxes or earn at least $3,000, including through Social Security or veterans' disability benefits. Singles making more than $75,000 and couples with income topping $150,000, however, will get smaller checks, up to the top limits for any rebate: incomes of $87,000 for individuals and $174,000 for couples.

To get any rebate, you must file a 2007 tax return and have a valid Social Security number. If you already filed your 2007 return, the IRS says you don't need to do anything extra.

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Most taxpayers will receive a check of up to $600 for individuals and $1,200 for couples, with an additional $300 for each child.

People earning too little to pay taxes but at least $3,000 _ including elderly people whose only income is from Social Security and veterans who live on disability payments _ will get $300 if single, or $600 if a couple.

The IRS will send out rebates _ by mail or by direct deposit into your bank account _ through the late spring and the summer. The rebates come in addition to any regular tax refund.

To pay for the rebates _ which are estimated to cost about $117 billion over the next two years _ the government will have to borrow more money, enlarging the budget deficit.

The Bush administration and some private economists are hopeful the rebates, tax breaks and aggressive interest rate reductions by the Federal Reserve will help the country narrowly dodge a recession. An increasing number of economists, however, believe the country has already fallen into its first recession since 2001, and they are simply hopeful the rescue package will limit the damage. Most people _ 61 percent _ say the economy is now in a recession, according to the AP-Ipsos poll.

"I do think this will give the economy a shot of adrenaline," said Stuart Hoffman, chief economist at PNC Financial Services Group.

The National Bureau of Economic Research, a private research organization, looked at what people did with their 2001 rebates. The study found that "households spent about 20 to 40 percent of their rebates on nondurable goods" _ which can include things like food and clothing _ in the first three months. They spent roughly another third in the following three months.

With the current stimulus, the economy will log growth in the range of 2.25 percent to 2.50 percent in the second half of this year _ roughly one full percentage point higher than without the bracing tonic, Hoffman estimated. That would be closer to a more normal rate of around 3 percent, he said.

That in turn should encourage businesses to step up hiring. Nervous employers cut 17,000 jobs in January, the first nationwide loss of jobs in more than four years.

Edward Lazear, chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, predicted, "The stimulus will have the effect of increasing jobs by about half a million above the number that would have been the case in the absence of that."

Still, even with the rescue efforts, some analysts fear the economy could backslide and flirt with recession again in 2009.

To help the severely depressed housing market, the stimulus package would raise temporarily to $729,750 the limit on Federal Housing Administration loans and also raise the cap on loans that mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac can buy.

Raising those limits, should provide relief in the market for "jumbo" mortgages _ those exceeding $417,000. The credit crunch hit that market hard, making it very difficult, if not impossible, for people to get those loans. That has plunged the housing market even deeper into turmoil.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California said the provisions will provide "families a second chance at the American dream of homeownership by helping them refinance their mortgages and avoid foreclosure."

WASHINGTON — The checks aren't in the mail, but they will be soon. President Bush signed legislation Wednesday to rush rebates ranging from $300 to $1,200 to millions of people, the centerpiece ...
WASHINGTON — The checks aren't in the mail, but they will be soon. President Bush signed legislation Wednesday to rush rebates ranging from $300 to $1,200 to millions of people, the centerpiece ...
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We're saved!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 02/13/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 641 fans permalink
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haleeelouyuh! Praise jeebus

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 02/13/2008
- Clarabell I'm a Fan of Clarabell 64 fans permalink
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Suzie Orman said "hand on to your money, don't spend it like they want you to."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 02/13/2008
- Annette I'm a Fan of Annette 15 fans permalink

Well I plan to save mine, spending money just to spend it is stupid. Our government would do better if it quit giving tax breaks to companies who relocate offshore. Actually companies who fire their employees in the US to take advantage of cheap, underpaid workers who take these jobs from absolute desperation, should pay a huge tariff. I don't care where their corporate offices have their drop boxes. They fire US employees to hre people who will work for less they pay. To make the companies who stay in the US, single payer health insurance. Take that burden off of employers. The little bit of refund puts us more into debt, will reverberate in the economy slightly for a very short period of time. Then the bill will still be there with interest. Really smart Georgie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 02/13/2008
- timothe I'm a Fan of timothe 7 fans permalink

Well Annette, if you raise taxes on corporations, then they all will relocate in other countries.­..and then what? And if you raise taxes on small businesses, then people will stop creating small businesses, which employ 75% of the work force.

Believe me, most employers would rather pay health insurance instead of high taxes. And if you've seen just how bloated and inefficient Medicare has become, then imagine how bad single payer health insurance will be. We'll NEVER get out of debt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 02/14/2008
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Bush Family History

"The Savings and Loan scandal is the largest theft in the history of the world.
Deregulation eased restrictions so much that S&L owners could lend themselves money.
The Garn Institute of Finance, named after Senator Jake Garn, co-authored the deregulation of the industry and received $2.2 million from industry executives.
Neil Bush, George Bush's son, never servered time in jail for his part in running an S&L into the ground.
Represenative Fernard St. Germain, who was head of the House of Representatives banking, co-authored the deregulation and was voted out of office after other questionable dealings and was sent back to D.C. as an S&L lobbiest.
Charles Keating, when asked if massive lobbying efforts had influenced the government officials, he replies "I certainly hope so."
The rip-off began in 1980 when the government raised the federal insurance on S&L's from $40,000 to $100,000 even though the typical savings account was only around $6000.
Some of the seized assets were a buffalo sperm bank, a racehorse with syphilis, and a kitty litter mine.
James Fail invested $1000 of his own money to purchase 15 failing S&L's. The government reimbursed him $1.85 billion in federal subsidies.
It sometimes took over 7 years to close failing S&L's by the government.
When S&L owners who stole millions went to jail, their sentances were typically one-fifth that of the average bank robber.
The goverment bail out will cost the taxpayers around $1.4 trillion dollars when it is over.
If the White House had stepped in and bailed out the S&L's in 1986 instead of delaying until after the 1988 elections, the cost might have been only $20 billion.
With the money lost from the S&L scandals, the government could have provided prenatal care for every American child for the next 2,300 years.
With the money lost from the S&L scandals, the government could have purchased 5 million average homes."

This information was copied and pasted http://www.inthe80s.com/sandl.shtmlshtml webpage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 02/13/2008
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This is the tip of the iceberg with these bush crime family members. Read House of Bush, House of Saud. Dig into why Noriega was suddenly branded a drug dealer right before he nationalized oil industries in which the elder bush held an interest. Dig into why the fetid cow barbara bush sold her imclone stock days before Martha Stewart sold hers. Prescott bush was, I believe, convicted of war profiteering in WWII.

These people are evil incarnate. They make Ron and Nancy look like the amateurs they were/are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 02/13/2008
- Annette I'm a Fan of Annette 15 fans permalink

Don't Forget Prescott Bush was part of the treasonous attenpt by wealthy businessmen in the 1930s to overthrow Our elected government and replace it with one that would ally the US with Germany, he had a big admiration for the Nazi's and made quite a bit of money from them. Quite scummy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 02/13/2008

Republicans have always been about robbing the U. S. Treasury.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 02/13/2008
- timothe I'm a Fan of timothe 7 fans permalink

And giving it back to the people. Don't forget that part.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 02/14/2008
- zizyphus I'm a Fan of zizyphus 110 fans permalink
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To help understand economic policy, take a look at the following video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279

This video explains how money is created with debt. The more debt we go into, the more money is created. Animated, interesting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 02/13/2008
- Annette I'm a Fan of Annette 15 fans permalink

Know all about the money reverberating in the economy theory. Still has to be paid.With interest. Suppose all those employers quit firing their US employees and started actually paying a reasonable wage and charging a reasonable amount for the products. At the moment Americans buy cheap, shoddy goods from low wage companies offshore, the ex-US companies, now relocated in tax havens, skim profits. The robber barons of these companies get huge salaries, even when the companies are not making a profit. This new paridigm if business wil impoverish the Us, weaken us and leave us vulnerable to bigger threats than the muslim fundies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 02/13/2008
- timothe I'm a Fan of timothe 7 fans permalink

You want a reasonable wage? Get rid of the illegals and watch the wages go up across the board. Better than any tax cut.

If we spent the $145 billion on hiring ICE agents and Border Patrol and construction workers to complete the fence and then create a Federal ID card for non citizens, that would do far more for the economy than any "stimulus" package.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 02/14/2008
- RnR I'm a Fan of RnR 26 fans permalink

People, pay attention here. There's a crime being committed.

Our glorious government has totally fucked us all; they're now offering us money to forget about it. That's bribery and as far as I can tell (you never *really* know) it's still illegal to either offer or take a bribe.

Don't take the money, if you do you're party to the crime. Send it back and tell them to jam it where the sun don't shine :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 02/13/2008
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remember what happened a month after we rec'd the last "rebate" check?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 02/13/2008
- RnR I'm a Fan of RnR 26 fans permalink

You know, I absolutely do not remember ever getting a rebate check, really????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 02/13/2008
- RS I'm a Fan of RS 5 fans permalink

I certainly do--in my case there was a VERY STEEP INCREASE in property taxes in my neighborhood. Naturally, that increase got passed on to me via a $40/mo. hike in my rent, so in less than eight months, I wound up kissing that "rebate" check bye-bye.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 AM on 02/14/2008
- msmaggie I'm a Fan of msmaggie 10 fans permalink

If stimulus is needed--I can argue that either way--wouldn't it wiser to direct that money towards improving the infrastruc­ture--brid­ges, roads, harbors, airports. $$$ creates jobs and is a lasting investment.

There is something very bread and circuses about this whole thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 02/13/2008
- Annette I'm a Fan of Annette 15 fans permalink

Absolutely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 02/13/2008
- timothe I'm a Fan of timothe 7 fans permalink

But see, then you would have to pay those evil corporations to do the work. You know, the ones that make sooooo much money and don't give it back. You don't want to do that, do you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 02/14/2008
- localman I'm a Fan of localman 7 fans permalink
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My favorite part of this is:
"But if the rebates don't spur a consumer spending spree strong enough to cure what ails the economy, Congress is ready to throw more money at the problem."
That's really good makes precious metals look that much more attractive. Not only do we have 'Helicopter' Ben running the Fed but we've got a 'Helicopter' Congress.
A spending spree strong enough to cure what ails the economy? Do they really believe that shite? Then they're ready to throw more money at the problem. Isn't the problem that there's too much money? Real idiots.

I'm just waiting for them to say: "Who says you can't fight fire with fire?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 02/13/2008
- localman I'm a Fan of localman 7 fans permalink
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Here's some encouraging words from Treasury Sec. Paulson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETQj3a221EQ

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 02/13/2008
- WIpatriot I'm a Fan of WIpatriot 36 fans permalink
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You and I both know that 'spending for the sake of the economy' is nothing more than fanning the flames. This government is truly penny wise and pound foolish as are the majority of its citizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 AM on 02/14/2008
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 337 fans permalink
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Bush, shucking and smirking, making funny with the millionaire's all standing behind him. Such a happy scene, the two sides, coming together, to send us some of our own money. What benevolence, such kindness, such courage, to send the peasants an easter ham and some flour.

Won't they remember this, just like in the summer of 2001, their little $300 check, a bush giveaway, as he and his operatives ignored the Bin Laden warnings, while they wired the WTC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 02/13/2008
- kkuate I'm a Fan of kkuate 2 fans permalink

Bush was told 3 Brasilian soldiers had been killed in the Iraq War. He really took it hard and, through his tears, managed to ask "how many exactly is a Brasilian?"
I wonder if he knows how many a trillion is, given the national debt will hit 10 big ones before the end of his second term......­Who said deficits don't matter?
Freedom... Democracy.­.. Civil Rights... Foreclosure. Oh well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 02/13/2008
- peterg76 I'm a Fan of peterg76 33 fans permalink
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It's not surprising that Little George would tackle a debt bubble with... debt. Sadly, a lot of people will probably fall for it. In a perverse psychotic way, it is kind of clever to bribe voters with their own money, which will still end up in the hands of the lending sector that's responsible for the debt bubble in the first place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 02/13/2008

the cheque is in the mail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 02/13/2008
- Trittydi I'm a Fan of Trittydi 68 fans permalink
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Well - it's not going to "rescue" US. And I doubt if it'll rescue anyone in middle America.

MORE Corporate welfare.

Congress is just a big steaming pile of shit. Every single one of them.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 02/13/2008

when all else fails, give 'em money. heck of a job bush, you must have put a lot of thought into this one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 02/13/2008
- timothe I'm a Fan of timothe 7 fans permalink

Last I recall, he needed the support of both houses of Congress to make it happen. Did Congress fight him on this? At all?

No...they added more and more and more to the bill, like they always do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 AM on 02/14/2008
- FatJoe I'm a Fan of FatJoe 2 fans permalink

My accountant told me the best plan yesterday: she's taking her $600 and investing it in China.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 02/13/2008
- timothe I'm a Fan of timothe 7 fans permalink

Good idea. May I suggest China Mobile. (CHL) It's trading at about $75 right now...shou­ld go to $125.

That is, unless the Chinese economy completely falls under the weight of its own infrastructure problems and the insatiable demand of the people for more jobs.

Wanna take that chance?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 02/14/2008

I'm looking at the picture again, and, correct me if I'm wrong, but is that bastard Rep. Boner crying again? Can't this asswipe keep his fucking tears in check?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 02/13/2008

Thanks for the check Dickheads, I'll be sure to wipe my ass with it before cashing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 02/13/2008
- Gary47 I'm a Fan of Gary47 15 fans permalink

make sure you use a Texas bank thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 02/13/2008
- plutorage I'm a Fan of plutorage 12 fans permalink

This is all so sad.

Wall street veterans will tell you this package only temporarily undoes the damage done by Republican income redistribution during Bush's 8 years in office.

We need to get politicians like Bush, who believe in income redistribution, out of the white house and get people in there who believe in tax equity, like Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 02/13/2008
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