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Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, New Mexico caucus, New Mexico primary, Nex Mexico, Nex Mexico results

Clinton Wins N.M. Caucus Vote

HEATHER CLARK | February 14, 2008 06:09 PM EST | AP

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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton finally won the popular vote in New Mexico's Democratic caucus and picked up one extra delegate Thursday, nine days after Super Tuesday voting ended.

State Democratic Chairman Brian Colon made the announcement after a marathon hand count of 17,000 provisional ballots that had to be given to voters on Feb. 5 because of long lines and a shortage of ballots. The final statewide count gave her a 1,709-vote edge over rival Sen. Barack Obama, 73,105 or 48.8 percent of the total vote to 71,396 or 47.6 percent.

The former first lady's victory in the popular vote swung the final unallocated New Mexico delegate into her column, which gave Clinton 14 delegates in the state to 12 for Obama.

With the addition of New Mexico's delegate, the national delegate count stood at 1,276 for Obama and 1,220 for Clinton on Thursday.

"I am so proud to have earned the support of New Mexicans from across the state," Clinton said in a written statement. "New Mexicans want real solutions to our nation's challenges. As president, I will continue to stand up for New Mexico and will hit the ground running on day one to bring about real change."

The Obama campaign appeared to accept the outcome.

Obama's state director, Carlos Monje Jr., was asked Thursday if he was confident the results were 100 percent accurate and replied, "We have confidence in the process." Asked if Obama might seek a recount, he said Obama has momentum from eight wins since Super Tuesday and "we are going to look forward at the contests we have remaining."

Monje said there were some "troubling aspects" in the conduct of the caucus, including "incredibly long lines that kept people from voting," but he saw their solution in the future. "We're going to continue to work with the New Mexico Democratic state party to make sure the next election goes more smoothly."

Of the 22 states that held Democratic primaries and caucuses on Super Tuesday, New Mexico was the last to report a winner. The caucus here was run by the state Democratic party rather than by state government.

Colon, who came under fire for his handling of the troubled election, thanked the hundreds of volunteers who counted the ballots. The final figures "have been double and triple checked," he said in a televised announcement.

New Mexico Democrats call their contest a caucus, but it's not like Iowa's caucuses where voters gather in gyms, churches or meeting rooms, divide into groups for each candidate, try to attract more support from other groups, and then count each group. Rather it more closely resembles a "firehall primary" _ a primary with shorter voting hours and fewer voting sites than would be found in traditional state primaries.

It was a mess: Overwhelmed polling places with long lines, some up to three hours. Too few ballots. Confusion over where to vote. Bad weather in the north. In Rio Rancho, one of the state's largest cities, a single polling location where 1,900 people remain lined up at 7 p.m on election night.

Colon has apologized repeatedly: "We absolutely miscalculated and I apologize. It's a tragedy when folks are not afforded the opportunity to vote."

The firestorm of criticism included some from Democratic Gov. Bill Richardson, a former presidential hopeful who said he was "deeply disturbed" by the problems. Partly because he was a candidate himself until mid-January, Richardson himself never got involved in helping plan or promote the caucus, as he did in 2004, the first year New Mexico tried it.

On Super Tuesday, Clinton and Obama vied for 26 of New Mexico's 38 delegates to this summer's Democratic National Convention. Twelve so-called superdelegates are not bound by caucus results.

New Mexico awards Democratic delegates proportionally, based on statewide vote totals and on the results in individual congressional districts.

In two of the state's three congressional districts, Clinton and Obama equally split an even number of delegates at stake. In District 2, which had an uneven number of delegates, Clinton won the additional one by outpolling Obama by 55 percent to 41 percent, according to unofficial results.

Nine statewide delegates were at stake. Obama and Clinton evenly split the eight delegates already awarded. The final one was assigned to the statewide popular vote winner.

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- kpart See Profile I'm a Fan of kpart permalink

Obama won New Mexico, Huffpo would have screamed in the Headlines. All "Obamans" would have danced in the posts. "Starbucks" and "Beer tavern" bloggers would have written articles saying "obama streak continues" , "Change is happening", "yes we canned". Since , hillary won NM, huffpo shows this on the end of the page. the other bloggers are saying that Hlllary added one more delegate. Hypocrites. Mark my words, OBAMA is nothing but air and nothing else. Speeches, promises, musings, bloggings and book writing will not make one a better president. If he wins the presidentship, he will perform worse than our current Dubya.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 02/15/2008
- ElmoBo See Profile I'm a Fan of ElmoBo permalink

Obama / Superdelegates & Cash
Hope Fund
PAC

http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/15/super-delegates-and-cash/#more-868

Those who love Obama will defend him until the end, even when the truth and facts are provided.

Hillary '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 02/15/2008
- loislane88 See Profile I'm a Fan of loislane88 permalink

There was nothing in your like ElmoBo. However, I'm sure Sen. Clinton is the last person that wants you to bring up money ties and PACs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 02/15/2008
- BeyondKen See Profile I'm a Fan of BeyondKen permalink

Hooray for our side!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 02/15/2008
- RhondaK See Profile I'm a Fan of RhondaK permalink

Straight from Albuquerque. Here in New Mexico, as the article stated, the Democrats not only had problems on the backend, the frontend was equally problematic. I waited in line with what turned out to be many others in the bitter cold at noon, when the polls opened. There were two doors into a polling place, both being used in their normal fashion: one in and the other out. After about one-half hour, one exiting voter said that there were two alphabetical lines inside. Yes, and lots of room too. We quickly all moved inside, forming two lines in. The people in control of voting seemed clueless, unaware that most of the voters who had been outside were elderly. And my polling place during the hour and a half was civil, though quite a few people left before voting. The experience at my polling place was mirrored in various ways across the entire state. Some polling places were very contentious. Some places ran out of ballots.
I have mulled over this embarrassment of counting, as have many others here. But one has to wonder if this whole caucus mishap was calculated to favor one candidate over another. When I saw people leaving early, I knew that something wasn't right. When I saw no direction at the polling booth, I knew something wasn't right. When I asked questions of those in charge at the polling place and they acted as though they didn't understand me, I knew that something wasn't right. Believe it or not, New Mexico is not the backdesert locale others may imagine. We have savvy folks here, high-tech folks too. Where were they? Waiting in line like me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 02/15/2008
- ReasonIsMyReligion See Profile I'm a Fan of ReasonIsMyReligion permalink

Voter suppression is outright downright UNDEMOCRATIC (pun intended), regardless of which candidate might gain differentially.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 02/15/2008
- HighBeam See Profile I'm a Fan of HighBeam permalink

Then I guess you are for seating the MI & FL delegates at the convention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 02/15/2008
- ElmoBo See Profile I'm a Fan of ElmoBo permalink

What's good news for our Hillary is that the press is now scrutinizing Obama. If you go to real clear politics online you'll see a handful of articles by difference news sources saying that Obama's momentum will stop, people are questioning his "yes we can" slogan (i.e., can what?), that Obama has a "gloomy big government vision", that he is a phenomenom that will soon die, and that his presidency will be a repeat of Carter's (i.e., big government spending, extreme liberalism).

We need someone who is a real Democrat and who has substance. That candidate is Hillary Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 02/15/2008
- danyll See Profile I'm a Fan of danyll permalink

What I find interesting is the fact that even though Hillary has her plans written down, they are still words on paper. No one knows what can be implemented in Washington until they get there. All Presidential candidates are "speculating" with their plans. So just like Obama, Clintons "detailed" plans, are empty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 02/15/2008
- ElmoBo See Profile I'm a Fan of ElmoBo permalink

Sorry danyll, that's an argument that has no spin. Good luck next time.

Hillary '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 02/15/2008
- wyorange See Profile I'm a Fan of wyorange permalink

Cannot disagree with anything you have said. I have been saying for quite some time that as we get closer to the conventions and the republican nominee is decided the corporate media would switch from its temporary idol, Obama, to its darling McCain.

Unfortunately the media waking up now may prove to be a little too late for Sen. Clinton. But I think they will probably provide help for McCain.

I have been supporting Sen. Clinton although I am a life-long registered republican. Don't know when it gets to the general if it is a McCain/Obama choice exactly what I am going to do. Do not think I can vote for Obama as I just have not gotten that "warm and fuzzy" feeling that most of his supporters seem to have gotten. I might vote for McCain but have been thinking I would just write in Hillary Clinton anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 02/15/2008
- ElmoBo See Profile I'm a Fan of ElmoBo permalink

wyorange: I agree with you 100%! I am a Democrat, but if it comes down to an Obama/McCain election, I cannot vote for Obama the way I feel today. I've never voted for a Republican, but this time there might be an exception. But this time I'm not voting for a party affiliate, I'm voting for the right person. And although McCain is not really my perfect candidate either, I believe he is the lesser of two evils.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 02/15/2008
- ReasonIsMyReligion See Profile I'm a Fan of ReasonIsMyReligion permalink

Big whup dee doo.

NM is a PROPORTIONAL award state for 26 delegates (+12 supers). In the GE, only 5 electoral college votes.

They EACH got 12 or 13 delegates. Only one out of 4,000 or so nationally was in question.

I don't get it.

If anything, in an elderly white female turnout, this is still a big bragging point for Obama. On simplistic demographics and oversimplified stereotypes, Clinton should have clobbered him 60-40, even noting that NM is a caucus state, a format in which Obama does well.

All data:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#NM

Last, as of the below October poll anyway (big grain of salt), McCain would clobber Hillary 50-43 in a head-to-head. (McCain wasn't tested against Obama). And, just for perspective, GORE polled two points BETTER than Clinton... against Rudy.
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportEmail.aspx?g=a0a4a697-5434-4b4a-af49-b144eb929d80

Enough about NM. Let's move on.



    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 02/15/2008
- jbstonesfan See Profile I'm a Fan of jbstonesfan permalink

Buried here...but surprised it's even posted...a nice win which will help lift some spirits...To my fellow Hillary Suppporters, remember, we will win in Ohio, Tx, and Penn and will be right back in it....once it gets close , the defectors will think twice as they will fear the Clinton machine which will work Obama over like a rat on cheese. Remember also, most who post here are not true democrats,..they are far out leftie freaks who have cost us thr past two elections as the country was scared of their radical leanings....the only reason Obama is in this race is b/c they have , much like the republicans, directed so much hate towards the Clintons with the aide of the media...yet, she is still right in it ....Also, Florida and Michigan will have a say and she beat him substantially in those states, despite his running huge ads to vote iuncommitted in Mich...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 02/15/2008
- ElmoBo See Profile I'm a Fan of ElmoBo permalink

I agree. What's good news for our Hillary is that the press is now scrutinizing Obama. If you go to real clear politics online you'll see a handful of articles by difference news sources saying that Obama's momentum will stop, people are questionins his "yes we can" slogan (i.e., can what?), that Obama has a "gloomy big government vision", that he is a phenomenom that will soon die, and that his presidency will be a repeat of Carter's (i.e., big government spending, extreme liberalism).

We need someone who is a real Democrat and who has substance. That candidate is Hillary Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 02/15/2008
- Ifeomamn See Profile I'm a Fan of Ifeomamn permalink

Elmobo,
Clinton did not win NM. It was stolen. It does not take 9 days to count a caucus. You can live in your fansty world that Mrs. Clinton is a real Democrat. She is not. She support NAFTA when it was popular. She supported the Iraq war when it was popular. I can go on and on.
Democrats wake up.... CLINTON'S are not the Solution. They will sell you out for their own gain..... Mrs. Clinton release your tax return so we democrats will know which off shore companies you invested in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 02/15/2008
- ReasonIsMyReligion See Profile I'm a Fan of ReasonIsMyReligion permalink

Mixed reactions:

Agreed re Hillary and OH, TX, and PA... and MI and FL... but the trend is definitely NG (not good).

I have an utterly different take on why Gore didn't win in 2000 (which would make moot Kerry in 2004), or why Kerry didn't depose Bush in 2004. And it ain't because those two ran too far left.

In short, Gore ran away from Clinton and a strong economy, so Bush knocked him out on ethics (try not to chortle with hindsight). And Kerry ran a bit wimpy as a potential leader during a war.

Last, understanding this country is no longer as simple as left-right. We are across the board against Bush and the Iraqupation, 70-30, and mired in a seven-year economic doldrum now crumbling... but we are too tolerant of a despotic administration, on BOTH sides of the aisle. Yeah, THAT's what's bipartisan these days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 02/15/2008
- faretheewell See Profile I'm a Fan of faretheewell permalink

With all due respect, one of the great contributing factors to the rise of bushivism is Bill's "I did not have sex with that woman" and Hillary's "vast right wing conspiracy." He and she both failed to grasp that an early admission to an embarassing situation is always better than a protracted case of gotcha by the media.

Second, is the Democratic Party just some form of GOP lite? All the conservatism without the Jesus freaks? Or rather, are we a progressive party? If I wanted more of the same, I could vote either McCain or Hillary. Their positions are far closer than between McCain and Obamma.

Other than her abscence of a Y chromosone there is nothing to really recommend Hillary to those of a progressive political leaning other than she is slightly less conservative than most in the GOP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 02/15/2008
- polcomm See Profile I'm a Fan of polcomm permalink

The headlines, even in the NY Times, which endorsed her, were hard to read where Hillary won NM. If Obama had won, well....it would have been in big bold type with underline and the lead in on every TV station. This is the problem. Clear Channel owns a lot of the news media and you cannot find a headline for Hillary anywhere. It is sickening. Everyone also knows that Clear Channel is basically a Republican operation. When you have the HuffPost, Moveon.org and others agreeing with Fox News, Brit Hume, Bill Kristol and the WSJ about Obama, what does that tell you? Even I can figure it out. As I've said before, all hat and no cattle. Hillary will take Ohio and Texas and we still won't be able to find a headline about her, not on the HuffPost you can bet your Republican bone fides on that! Obama has not won one major Democratic state that is essential to win in November. The Democrats are not going to take Idaho, Utah, Georgia or South Carolina. Clyburn endorsing Obama was a given. No secret there, in fact, he was behind his own congressional district in the endorsement. I can't believe the Democrats will eat their own like Bill Clinton. They have to get over the Iraq war and move on and deal with the future. But, that is all Obama has as his claim to fame. A vote he was not in the Senate to make, and a vote for something he could have made in the Senate and didn't. There's a real hero!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 02/15/2008
- loislane88 See Profile I'm a Fan of loislane88 permalink

I have had a hard time finding the NM's new results anywhere. I think the press just moved on and it isn't indicative of a sleight to HRC. The MSM (like the public) has a 2-second attention span.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 02/15/2008
- Triangulate See Profile I'm a Fan of Triangulate permalink

Polcomm, stop acting like such a baby! When Obama won four contests this past Saturday, the Chicago Tribune relegated the story to page 12, despite the fact they endorsed him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 02/15/2008
- sarnold49 See Profile I'm a Fan of sarnold49 permalink

Anyway you slice it the whole situation doesn't make any sense at all. It is like we are in some alternate reality. The media sold America Dubya & the war in Iraq yet America is still buying what the media is selling this time. And there is all the republicans voting for Obama, (a lot of them tried in New Mexico even though they knew it wasn't allowed) this doesn't make sense. Why would a conservative support a LIBERAL? Everyone knows that conservatives consider the words democrat & liberal the worst possible curse words you can use against someone so why are they supporting Obama? And it is not just the media and republicans, the democratic party elders appear to have lost their collective minds they are willing to disenfranchise democratic voters in Florida & Michigan but let republicans and independents choose our nominee. Me thinks Karl Rove and the republicans have come up with yet another devious but ingenious plan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 02/15/2008
- scandals&skeletons See Profile I'm a Fan of scandals&skeletons permalink

this is for demojak, and anninca who like to throw total bs around. it's from politico about obamas ad that ran in florida.


Clinton"s campaign acknowledged that it"s not possible to buy 49-state coverage " that the only alternative would be the much more complex process of buying state by state and market by market.

Asking a question on the call, NBC News Political Director Chuck Todd pointed out the complexity of the matter by noting that buying advertising in Mobile, Ala., gives a campaign substantial reach into the Florida Panhandle.

Elleithee responded that Clinton has not yet bought ads in Alabama, which has a Feb. 5 primary, but said the campaign reserves the right to do so.

Bill Burton, the Obama for America press secretary, called the attack "misguided."

"Both national cable networks told us it would be impossible for us to run advertising nationally that excluded only Florida," Burton said.

"For that reason we consulted with the South Carolina Democratic Party Chair Carol Fowler who told us unequivocally she did not consider this to be in violation of [the] pledge made to the early states

by the way hillary was here in miami the day before the primary under the guise of "fundraising" she had 3 huge "fundraisers"
the day before she was on floridas west coast having huge "fundraisers"
fundraisers are legal as are national ads.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 02/15/2008
- sarnold49 See Profile I'm a Fan of sarnold49 permalink

So the Obama campaign considers South Carolina's Democratic Party Chair Carol Fowler to be the Democratic Party? Why would he ask S.C. as if all the other states didn't count?

Also it doesn't change the fact that he DID campaign in Florida through his ads and the medias love affair (Chris Matthews brings a whole new meaning to this term) with him and lets not forget the non-stop coverage of the Kennedy family passing the titles of "camelot" & "America's royal family" to Obama. I think the people in Florida definitely knew who the hell Obama was. And BTW Obama was also in Florida under the guise of "fundraising"!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 02/15/2008
- scandals&skeletons See Profile I'm a Fan of scandals&skeletons permalink

you dont reply to hillarys fund raising.
you all are funny like that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 02/15/2008
- Orikinla See Profile I'm a Fan of Orikinla permalink

The Huffington Post is BIASED against the Clintons.

I am very disappointed by such subjective journalism exhibited anytime Barack Obama is winning.

Some of the bloggers on the Huffington Post read like the "I woke up and had a sandwich" blogs. CNN just fired Producer Chez Pazienza for blogging political nonsense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 02/15/2008
- loislane88 See Profile I'm a Fan of loislane88 permalink

Huffpo is biased, you know this, so why read it and then complain?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 02/15/2008
- faretheewell See Profile I'm a Fan of faretheewell permalink

If I am understanding you correctly, The Huffington Post should have had a screaming full page article identifying Hillary's single new delegate and her less than 2% victory in New Mexico. Is that correct?

Would that acknowledgement have made you happy? Do you think it and similar pronouncements in all of American media would swing the tide of momentum in this race?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 02/15/2008
- firstdawg See Profile I'm a Fan of firstdawg permalink

You want to talk about SUBJECTIVE, then why was this NOT all over the NEWS:
Uncounted Rio Arriba County ballots raise eyebrows --- Several sources told me the ballot boxes spent the night at the home of Rio Arriba County Democratic Party Chair Theresa Martinez, whose state-lawmaker husband, Sen. Richard Martinez, endorsed Hillary Clinton. But Richard Martinez told Santa Fe New Mexican reporter Kate Nash that the boxes actually spent the night in the homes of three polling-place managers. He gave Nash no explanation for why the results from those ballots weren?t reported to the state party last night and why they were instead kept overnight in officials? homes. ?The site managers locked them and they kept them and they took them to my wife this morning,? Nash quoted Richard Martinez as saying. State party officials and Theresa Martinez have not returned my calls seeking comment. The three ballot boxes from Rio Arriba County and a fourth from Sandoval County account for the 2 percent of precincts that haven?t yet reported results from Tuesday?s caucus. With about 200 votes separating Clinton and Barack Obama, that?s huge. We?re talking about the ballots from half the polling places in Rio Arriba County. -- http://haussamen.blogspot.com/2008/02/uncounted-rio-arriba-county-ballots.html ---- http://www.democracyfornewmexico.com/democracy_for_new_mexico/2008/02/results-2008-su.html?referer=sphere_related_content

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 02/15/2008
- Bulbul See Profile I'm a Fan of Bulbul permalink

Why Obama has not convinced me ? More I hear him , I hear "yes we can", what ? The speeches are so very long and tedious, and I change my dial.
All the speeches are so generic, worries me.
Then I read , WSJ editorial "Obama at the Top" , feb 14th, it says what is going on in my mind.
Why I feel he is another taflon coated Politicians ?
And I remain worried.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 02/15/2008
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