Did Hillary Clinton Really Support NAFTA? Aides, Biographers Say No

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First Posted: 02-14-08 01:13 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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As the 2008 campaign shifts to economically hard-hit states like Ohio, so too do the topics of political debate. This week, Sen. Barack Obama's campaign has attacked Sen. Hillary Clinton on trade, arguing that she was once a supporter of the North American Free Trade Agreement that contributed to the loss hundreds of thousands of American jobs.

"A little more than a year ago," an Obama mailer reads, "Hillary Clinton thought NAFTA was a 'boon' to the economy." The piece goes on to argue that the New York Senator is "changing her tune" now that she's campaigning in the Buckeye State.

The attack is, most observers say, misleading. The "boon" line, a paraphrase lifted from a September 2006 Newsday article, has yet to be confirmed as an authentic quote. But, more importantly, the mailer misrepresents what former Clinton administration officials and biographers say was Hillary Clinton's long-held opposition to the legislation.

"In August in 92, we had to make a decision," Mickey Kantor the former U.S. Secretary of Commerce, Clinton adviser, and free trade advocate recalled for the Huffington Post. "President Clinton had to make a decision as governor, whether or not he would support [George H.W. Bush's] NAFTA, and of course he did... Hillary Clinton was one of the great skeptics in the discussion as to whether he should do. So she was always skeptical beginning in 1992 and onward."

Indeed, as Kantor went on to note, Hillary Clinton long held reservations over the labor and environmental fallouts of the free trade agreement. In addition, she was, at the time, eager to see her health care reform (not NAFTA) pushed through Congress. As such, Clinton biographer Sally Bedell Smith writes in her book "For Love of Politics," her disapproval of the trade agreement was both political and philosophical.

The economic team and other key advisors, including Mack McLarty, Mickey Kantor, and David Gergen, were likewise urging Bill to use his momentum to push or congressional ratification of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA)...Liberal Democrats, including Hillary, opposed it primarily because it could take jobs away from American workers. But as an advocate of global economic cooperation, Bill was drawn to its free-trade philosophy.

It fell to Mickey Kantor, the U.S. Trade Representative responsible for implementing NAFTA, to reason with Hillary. One day in August, he sat her down on a bench behind the White House and tried to strike a compromise. "I said, 'If you want to drop NAFTA, we can kill it, but we shouldn't,'" Kantor recalled. "I said, 'The way to do it is to introduce health care, spend a month on it, and then do NAFTA, then go back to health care.'" With misgivings, Hillary acquiesced to the proposed sequence.

Carl Bernstein, another Clinton biographer, echoed much the same tale during a recent appearance on CNN.

"'Bill,'" he recalled Hillary Clinton as saying, "'you are doing Republican economics when you are doing NAFTA.' She was against NAFTA. And if she would somehow come out and tell the real story of what she fought for in the White House and failed in a big argument with her husband she would end up moving much closer to those [John] Edwards followers."

So why didn't we hear such protests from Hillary Clinton during her husband's administration?

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"The whole time that she was first lady," said Robert Shapiro, the undersecretary of commerce during the Clinton White House years, "she, like everybody else...[was] not supposed to deviate from the position of the administration. There is no freedom of speech in there, and that certainly applies to a first lady."

On the 2008 campaign trail, Clinton has been free of those shackles. And, on many occasions, she has expressed misgivings about NAFTA, although usually she qualifies her statements by saying she supports the underlying idea.

"I believe in the general principles it represented," she said last February, noting that she voted against CAFTA [the Central American Free Trade Agreement] because of a lack of environmental and labor standards. "But what we have learned is that we have to drive a tougher bargain. Our market is the market that everybody wants to be in. We should quit giving it away so willy-nilly. I believe we need tougher enforcement of the trade agreements we already have."

Clinton ``is committed to free trade and to the growing role of the international economy,'' Steven Rattner, a Clinton fundraiser and co-founder of Quadrangle Group LLC, a New York buyout firm told Bloomberg.com. ``She would absolutely do the right thing as president.''

More recently, at the Las Vegas Democratic Debate on November 15, 2007, she offered the following, more concise declaration: "NAFTA was a mistake to the extent that it did not deliver on what we had hoped it would."

As the 2008 campaign shifts to economically hard-hit states like Ohio, so too do the topics of political debate. This week, Sen. Barack Obama's campaign has attacked Sen. Hillary Clinton on trade, arg...
As the 2008 campaign shifts to economically hard-hit states like Ohio, so too do the topics of political debate. This week, Sen. Barack Obama's campaign has attacked Sen. Hillary Clinton on trade, arg...
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"It fell to Mickey Kantor, the U.S. Trade Representative responsible for implementing NAFTA, to reason with Hillary. One day in August, he sat her down on a bench behind the White House and tried to strike a compromise. "I said, 'If you want to drop NAFTA, we can kill it, but we shouldn't,'" Kantor recalled. "I said, 'The way to do it is to introduce health care, spend a month on it, and then do NAFTA, then go back to health care.'" With misgivings, Hillary acquiesced to the proposed sequence."

Politics as usual. Period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 02/15/2008

Obama also supports NAFTA and the NAFTA higway from Lazaro Cardenas container port in Mexico to Toronto with off ramps dumping foreign goods all over the USA.

Obama also support Port Punta Colonet expansion
and truck routes into California.

Plans for a $1bn container port to be built at Punta Colonet on Mexico's west coast have been unveiled by Marine Terminals Corp, a California holding company owned by Evergreen, Yang Ming, Hanjin and China Shipping.

The aim is to create an alternative to the congested southern California ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 02/14/2008

Earlier this week, the New York Post ran a Page 6 piece, ODD FILM BY HILLARY BACKER, which highlights the close relationship between Hillary Clinton and Chicago-based Turkish businessman Mehmet Celebi.
Celebi, "one of the national leaders of the Turkish-American community in the US," is a key fundraiser for Clinton, and is one of Clinton's Chicago delegates to the 2008 Democratic National Convention. Celebi was also heavily involved in the controversial 2006 movie "Valley of the Wolves: Iraq" which has been widely regarded as "anti-Semitic, anti-American, conspiratorial agitprop."

Mehmet Celebi is also a key figure in the Sibel Edmonds case - he is heavily involved in the narcotics trade in the US and the corruption and bribery of high-level US officials.

Other less that scrupulous people the Clintons have associated with: drug dealer Jorge Cabrera (Hillary posed for a picture in front of the White House Christmas tree with him), twice convicted felon Peter Paul (Bill's business partner), sweatshop owner Willie Tan.

Want more names???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 02/14/2008

How about Bill Clintons business buddies? The Wall Street Journal reported that one of his partners in the global investment fund is an entity connected to Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, the ruler of Dubai, also believed to be a major donor to the Clinton presidential library.

Two years ago, when the Bush administration planned to sell control of six major US ports to Dubai Ports World against objections from Congress and most Americans, it later emerged that Bill was advising the Arab emirate how to handle the transaction.

Last month, The New York Times reported that Bill flew to Kazakhstan on the executive jet of Frank Giustra, a Canadian mining financier and multi-million dollar backer of the Clinton Foundation who was also seeking a contract with the Kazakh government.

Mr Giustra, who organised a lavish charity dinner for Mr Clinton’s 60th birthday, was subsequently awarded a lucrative uranium mining deal in Kazakhstan ahead of more experienced industry competitors.

Mr Clinton’s aides have denied that he influenced the deal or behaved improperly.

THAT'S how the Clintons made all that money they don't want to show the income tax returns on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 02/15/2008
- jmangan I'm a Fan of jmangan 4 fans permalink

She was against it before she was for it before she was against it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 02/14/2008
- rixhex56 I'm a Fan of rixhex56 15 fans permalink

Well, uh, actually, it appears she was against it when she was against it and even when she was against it...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 02/14/2008

You are too clever for words -- so stop using them until you can understand what people say. HRC DID NOT VOTE FOR NAFTA -- she was First Lady, not a Senator when it passed. What part of that fact don't you understand?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 02/14/2008

How about facts you might understand - Hillary has refused to sign a pledge to restore the Constitutional rights of Americans.
Go here for the article you might have trouble finding:
http://www.reuters.com/article/blogBurst/politics?type=politicsNews&w1=B7ovpm21IaDoL40ZFnNfGe&w2=B7tmRCRJt2YFzDsa7MJ1CblL&src=blogBurst_politicsNews&bbPostId=Cz1VeFnrO5fmhCz7sNEgkr6eaqCz3hWJURc5eE5Cz8bp0emPnej3&bbParentWidgetId=B7tmRCRJt2YFzDsa7MJ1CblL

I would expect biographers and aides to present her side.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 02/15/2008
- rpmcestmoi I'm a Fan of rpmcestmoi 9 fans permalink

Give the poor lady a break!!!
She's losing pledges, she's losing unions, she is near tears. Don't accuse her of not standing by her man!!!

Hey! Brilliant notion for her theme song in the final. I'm sure the Tammy Wynette and Billy Sherrill song can be had.

Come to think of it, had she been standing by her man when he was downstairs in the ante-room, we might have not lost two years to the Republican Crusade for Morality in the Oval Office,

But she was as surprised by that moment as we were, wounded, but forgave. What a president she will make!!! Keep rolling that hoop, Hillary.

http://www.thepessimist.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 02/15/2008

Hold on, Hillary. Isn't this part of your "co-presid­ency"... you can't take the credit for the good things and not take the blame for the bad things in your husband's presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 02/14/2008
- sjl106 I'm a Fan of sjl106 7 fans permalink

facts are facts just because obama lies about Hillary doesn't mean they are truth, Hillary didn't support NAFTA. Obama lied and smeared her through negative campaign tactics, you know the kind he claims he doesn't engage in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 02/14/2008
- rixhex56 I'm a Fan of rixhex56 15 fans permalink

She can if she supported the good things, and did not support the bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 02/14/2008
- plutorage I'm a Fan of plutorage 12 fans permalink

If Stein is right about Hil's stance on NAFTA, she needs to get up in front of a big audience and say clearly:

"Bill Clinton's claims on NAFTA are the biggest fairy tale......­"

Not happening?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 02/14/2008
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NAFTA isn't the only issue... What about her stance on re-upping MFN for China which her husband signed... This piece of legislation was the single worst for working people in this country since the age of the robber barons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 02/14/2008
- indeevoter I'm a Fan of indeevoter 7 fans permalink

I have two problems with Stein's article (which basically flaks the Clinton campaign argument) that Hillary was always opposed to NAFTA.

Hillary cut-and-pasted her husband’s presidential record into her own resume – and she’s been using his record, heavily, in her own bid for the presidency. Anyone who believes it’s ok for her to run on HIS record has already stepped through the looking glass, as far as I’m concerned – but I can’t believe any intelligent person is going to allow her to go even further and cherry pick through his record and lay claim to only the popular achievements. ‘This one I was always for – this one I was always against’. Right!

Just about everyone – including presidential historians – agree that Bush junior’s White House is the most disciplined and insular White House in history. And yet Laura Bush – prim, proper, non-assertive, non-Alpha Laura Bush – let it be known publicly that she supports Roe v Wade and does not believe it should be overturned. If Laura Bush can publicly disagree with her husband and conservative America’s overheated views on abortion, no one can convince me that – I’m not going to bake cookies and just stand by my man Hillary Clinton – wasn’t able to speak publicly about her opposition to NAFTA during her husband’s presidency.

This argument doesn’t compute…

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 02/14/2008
- NYC07 I'm a Fan of NYC07 61 fans permalink

Obviously NAFTA some how, isn't part of her 35 years of experience, maybe that particular year she got no experience. But then again how would we know as she still refuses to release her records as First Lady . Let alone her TAX RETURNS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 02/14/2008

By your logic, she was in favor of Bill getting bj's too.
Your argument doesn't compute. She voiced her objections to Bill but he went his own way. Why is that so difficult to understand.

As for Laura's courageous statements -- there was no vote in the Senate revoking Roe v. Wade.

Amazing that you can blame her for a vote she never made and never could make. I think HRC supporters have to go and look at everything lousy the Repugs gave us and blame BO for not voting against it back in 1998.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 02/14/2008
- SeekerOne I'm a Fan of SeekerOne 11 fans permalink
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Here is the memo from the Obama camp signed by various labor organizations, stating why they support Obama and just what Hillary Clinton has said about NAFTA over the years.

http://thepage.time.com/obama-camp-memo-from-supporting-union-leaders/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 02/14/2008

Wow! There it is, her statements laid out there for all to see. She may deny, but if so it would appear that she is covering up.

Sure, she may not have actually voted on NAFTA, or other trade agreements, but from her statements, it is obvious she endorsed them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 AM on 02/15/2008
- websmith I'm a Fan of websmith 24 fans permalink
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She supports the New World Order and NAFTA is just one step towards it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heegk07026I

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 02/14/2008

Once again, for all to see. Good catch!
You know, these issues are ones which should be asked of all the candidates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 AM on 02/15/2008
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Her husband really lobbied hard for NAFTA, and was positively gleaming when it passed the House (with mostly GOP support). Clinton followed the advice of the Wall Street Journal types, and essentially told the unions/working people to go to hell. Billy Boy paid for it when the Dems lost Congress in 1994. And, no, it didn't benefit the American economy/worker.

Like it or not, Hillary is tied to Bill no matter what she does. Even if she was against NAFTA (which I personally doubt), her husband made it a centerpiece of his first term and lobbied aggressively for it. There's really no way she can run away from it, or Bill, especially after saying it was a co-presidency at the beginning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 02/14/2008
- FogBelter I'm a Fan of FogBelter 269 fans permalink
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Hillary's "Experience" is Bill's Legacy ...


NAFTA, Welfare Reform, (GATT94)WTO, Telecommunications Act of 1996, Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act ...


These were the achievements of the Clinton Presidency ... She can't say she has "Experience" and say she didn't support any of the efforts that defined Bill's Presidency ...


If she supported them, it shows poor judgement on her part ... if she was against them, it shows that she didn't have influence with her husband regarding her disagreements with these issues ...


So what is it? Poor Judgement, or inability to influence people to accept her position?


Either way, those traits do not benefit the United States if they are displayed by the President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 02/14/2008
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She's tied to Bill's very right wing record. Your examples are indictative of what Clinton was about (GATT, Telecommuncations Act of 1996, and welfare "reform"), and Hillary was a "co-president", so she's just as responsible.

Sometimes the whole campaign looks like Bill's effort for a third term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 02/14/2008
- midtown I'm a Fan of midtown 36 fans permalink

"NAFTA was a mistake to the extent that it did not deliver on what WE HAD HOPED it would."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 02/14/2008
- midtown I'm a Fan of midtown 36 fans permalink

http://www.searchthetube.com/hBypp2hqxaQ/Hillary_Clinton_Laughs_About_NAFTA#_jmp0_

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 02/14/2008

And still another good catch! A must view!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 02/15/2008
- Ides I'm a Fan of Ides 21 fans permalink

So Hillary gets credit for the good stuff Bill did and not for the bad stuff?

Oh, look, here she is lying and pretending like NAFTA was a Bush, Sr. policy:

TIME: Do you think NAFTA [the North American Free Trade Agreement, signed by Bill Clinton] was the right thing to do?

CLINTON: I think NAFTA was, in principle, a good idea to try to create a better trading market between Canada and the United States and Mexico. But I think the terms that it contained, and how it was negotiated under the Bush Administration and the failure to have any tough enforcement mechanism, like pollution on our border with Mexico, for example—

TIME: That was your husband's Adminstration, wasn't it? Because I recall a lot of debate about it not having labor standards and environmental standards.

CLINTON: But it was inherited. NAFTA was inherited by the Clinton Administration.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1584649,00.html

Unless Bill Clinton entered office in 1995, Hillary Clinton is full of crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 02/14/2008

You all are so blind! Yes, The NAFTA really was the brainchild of GHWB. Didn't you even read above? Yes, it passed in the Clinton Administration, but this was NOT Hillary's doing! She was passionately trying to work on her Health Insurance bill which never went anywhere because of the Republican Congress! You all sound just like the blinder-wearing Republican hate machine on these blogs! And many of you out here crucifying Hillary - were you even out of diapers when NAFTA was created??? Die you ever even CARE about it? It sure doesn't sound so. I have not seen anything backed up with any facts - just spin. Let's see facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 02/14/2008

From all Hillary's own words, I suspect that a person would have to not be able to read or blind not to see Hillary say things now that contradict her words from the past. I think they call that rewriting history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 02/15/2008

It's really peculiar how the MSM characterizes the Obama supporters as being more "educated" and "wealthier" than the Clinton supporters. These people sound more like children of wealthy parents (many Republican, no doubt) who are too busy chasing each other around "hooking up" at these caucuses to spend the time at their studies learning how to make an intelligent argument.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 AM on 02/15/2008

Bullshit on this noise!

1. hillary had a democratic president, a democratic majority in the house and a democratic majority in the senate and turned universal healthcare into a clusterf*ck. She accomplished NOTHING and did it all behind closed doors in SECRET. The records are still hidden in the clinton fortress.

2. Bill Clnton worked very hard to get NAFTA through the Congress and then he signed the bill. He could have vetoed it, but didn't

3. hillary was the co-president. Did you forget this? hillary promoted NAFTA and lied to you about it.

hillary sent US jobs south with NAFTA. As an example, the PT Cruiser is made in Mexico.

hillary lied then and hillary lies now.

"She was practiced at the art of deception,
Well I could tell by her blood stained hands"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 AM on 02/15/2008

Sen. Clinton needs to be a little more specific about what she would do with regard to NAFTA and other "free trade" agreements if elected.

As I read her current positions, she was against it before she was for parts of it some people like and against parts of it other people dislike, depending on the setting and which people we're talking about.

Not good enough. Not good enough by several thousand miles.

The devil is in the details and the details are what voters need in order to make an informed decision. Come clean, Senator.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 02/14/2008
- geobushono I'm a Fan of geobushono 15 fans permalink

more new news from Winston Smith.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 02/14/2008
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