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House Holds Bush Confidants in Contempt

JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS | February 14, 2008 06:21 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — The House voted Thursday to hold two of President Bush's confidants in contempt for failing to cooperate with an inquiry into whether a purge of federal prosecutors was politically motivated.

Angry Republicans boycotted the vote and staged a walkout.

The vote was 223-32 to hold White House chief of staff Josh Bolten and former White House counsel Harriet Miers in contempt. The citations charge Miers with failing to testify and accuse her and Bolten of refusing Congress' demands for documents related to the 2006-2007 firings.

Republicans said Democrats should instead be working on extending a law _ set to expire Saturday _ allowing the government to eavesdrop on phone calls and e-mails in the United States in cases of suspected terrorist activity.

"We have space on the calendar today for a politically charged fishing expedition, but no space for a bill that would protect the American people from terrorists who want to kill us," said Minority Leader John A. Boehner, R-Ohio.

"Let's just get up and leave," he told his colleagues, before storming out of the House chamber with scores of Republicans in tow.

The vote, which Democrats had been threatening for months, was the latest wrinkle in a more than yearlong constitutional clash between Congress and the White House. The administration says the information being sought is off-limits under executive privilege, and argues that Bolten and Miers are immune from prosecution.

Democrats said they were acting to protect Congress' constitutional prerogatives.

If Congress didn't enforce the subpoenas, said Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, the No. 2 Democrat, it would "be giving its tacit consent to the dangerous idea of an imperial presidency, above the law and beyond the reach of checks and balances."

The White House said the Justice Department would not ask the U.S. attorney to pursue the House contempt charges. However, the measure would allow the House to bring its own lawsuit on the matter.

It is the first time in 25 years that a full chamber of Congress has voted on a contempt of Congress citation, and the White House quickly pointed out that it was the first time that such action had been taken against top White House officials who had been instructed by the president to remain silent to preserve executive privilege.

"This action is unprecedented, and it is outrageous," Dana Perino, Bush's spokeswoman, said in a lengthy and harshly worded statement after the vote. "It is astonishing and deeply troubling that after months of delay on passing a bill that will help our intelligence professionals monitor foreign terrorists who want to kill Americans, the House has instead turned its attention to the silly, pointless, and unjust act of approving these contempt resolutions."

If Democrats bring suit to press the contempt charges, Perino added, "they will be met with opposition at the courthouse door and at every step of the way."

House Republicans argued that there had been no evidence of wrongdoing in the prosecutors flap, and called the vote a waste of time that would actually damage Congress' standing.

"We don't have evidence that we can give to the U.S. attorney. What we're giving to him is the desire to continue a witch hunt which has produced up to today zero _ nothing," said Rep. Chris Cannon, R-Utah.

Under former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, Justice Department officials consulted with the White House, fired at least nine federal prosecutors and kindled a political furor over a hiring process that favored Republican loyalists.

Bush's former top political adviser, Karl Rove, has also been a target of Congress' investigation into the purge of prosecutors, although Thursday's measure was not aimed at him.

Fred Fielding, the current White House counsel, has offered to make officials and documents available behind closed doors to the congressional committees probing the matter _ but off the record and not under oath. Lawmakers demanded a transcript of testimony and the negotiations stalled.

The contempt debate sparked an unusually bitter scene even in the fractious House. Democrats accused Republicans of marring the Capitol memorial for their fallen colleague Rep. Tom Lantos, D-Calif., by interrupting it with a protest vote. GOP leaders shot back that it was Democrats who were responsible for dishonoring Lantos, by calling the House into session for the contempt debate before the service had ended.

It's not clear that contempt of Congress citations must be prosecuted. The law says the U.S. attorney "shall" bring the matter to a grand jury.

In 1982, the House voted 259-105 in 1982 for a contempt citation against Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Anne Gorsuch, but the Reagan-era Justice Department refused to prosecute the case.

The Justice Department also sued the House of Representatives in that case, but the court threw out the suit and urged negotiation. The Reagan administration eventually agreed to turn over the documents.

The last time a full chamber of Congress voted on a contempt of Congress citation was 1983. The House voted 413-0 to cite former EPA official Rita Lavelle for contempt of Congress for refusing to appear before a House committee. Lavelle was later acquitted in court of the contempt charge, but she was convicted of perjury in a separate trial.

On Thursday, three Republicans joined 220 Democrats to support the contempt resolution, including Rep. Walter B. Jones of North Carolina, presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul of Texas and Rep. Wayne T. Gilchrest of Maryland, who was defeated this week in a primary. One Republican, Rep. Jon Porter of Nevada, voted "present."


 
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- Earl I'm a Fan of Earl 91 fans permalink
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Maybe this will drag out until Bush can no longer grant pardons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 02/16/2008
- hkochii I'm a Fan of hkochii 4 fans permalink
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Miers and Bolten need to be waterboarded until they tell congress what they know, after all, it's not really torture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 02/16/2008
- Janus I'm a Fan of Janus 19 fans permalink

NEOCON43 Seems to be missing and unavailable for elaboration on his/her post.

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Neocon43 regales us with this:

"The reason republicans got up was because democrats are letting the bill run out to listen in on terrorists­.If something happens the blood will be on their hands."

So your position is that the Patriot Act with its provisions on surveillance is no longer in effect so that no surveillance activity will be conducted until Congress is back in session to provide for it?
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"What losers they are.Mccain will take care of them very shortly."

How?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 02/16/2008
- Janus I'm a Fan of Janus 19 fans permalink

ROLLING DIVISION ALERT------

Has anyone seen a rolling division post in reply to the question below?:

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Now comes rollingdivision with this:

"It is amazing how their supporters have completely forgotten the Democrats promises to cut off Iraq war funding and end the war, to close GITMO, to end wiretapping, to end earmarks, etc"

How would legislation on these topics have gotten to the Senate floor for a vote?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 02/16/2008
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How dare these two not show up for their hearing with Congress? I had to call every Friday, for 8 weeks, to make sure that I was not needed for jury duty. Americans are disgusted with this vile W. admin., snubbing their noses at the world, and the American people, their laws, and their lives. The dem's came out of their stupor for the first time in years, or should I say shells? Congrats., to all of you dems. Just keep fighting, as I love it when you come roaring out to fight the bottom-feeding repubs.
This Dana Perino is a joke, nasty and mean to boot. How dare she disrespect Helen Thomas? Helen's history is a national treasure, something Dana has no idea of, nor does she care. Leave it to W. to hire this light-weight for such an important job. The face she shows the world is the face of the entire W. admin. Amoral, unintelligent, disrespectful, petulant,lacking in any humanistric traits. If your resume' reflects any of the above, then you are guaranteed a job with W. Being a grad. of the nutty, right-wing, Liberty U. is a plus too. Please God, get these people out of my WH NOW.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 AM on 02/16/2008
- aznurse I'm a Fan of aznurse 55 fans permalink

Did any Dems vote against filing contempt charges?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 AM on 02/16/2008
- larry278 I'm a Fan of larry278 48 fans permalink

It is just about f#cking time for the Democraps to develop a spine. What took you so long, Speaker Pelosi?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 02/15/2008
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Yip, Yip, Yip, Yahoo

Just two problems,

The Legislative Branch of the US Government is only ceremonial and,

The Judaical Branch is only a Rubber Stamp.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 02/15/2008

Good, now let's get the others too and force them to testify. You lie, you break the law, hide evidence, cover up for others, you do the damn time. They should not get immunity for this, they chose to collude with Bush and cheney, knew the consequences. Cry me a river.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 02/15/2008
- Marnie1 I'm a Fan of Marnie1 41 fans permalink

Well - better late than never, and I am glad something has gotten underway to stop Bush.

However, impeaching Judge Scalia for announcing the outcome of a legal procedure before the evidence had even been heard by the court should have been begun, immediately after he announced Bush as President in 2000.

However proper are Conyers' intentions, way too much damage has been done for Attorneygate to really amount to much, except as the tiny beginning of a decades long pursuit of the Nazicon's crimes and criminals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 02/15/2008

VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1UI4KVJCC8
Condoleezza Rice: Liar, Secretary of State, War Criminal Part 1

Wexler asks Rice, isn't it true that you had intelligence that cast doubt on your repeated claims that Iraq did have WMD. It is worse than even how Wexler characterizes it. SEE PROOF, that the Bush Administration was committing fraud in order to fool the public into thinking Iraq had WMD. Spread the word. Send this link to others:
http://representativepress.googlepages.com/RiceLies.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 02/15/2008
- Earl I'm a Fan of Earl 91 fans permalink
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Thanks for the link!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 02/16/2008
- Janus I'm a Fan of Janus 19 fans permalink

Neocon43 regales us with this:

"The reason republicans got up was because democrats are letting the bill run out to listen in on terrorists­.If something happens the blood will be on their hands."

So your position is that the Patriot Act with its provisions on surveillance is no longer in effect so that no surveillance activity will be conducted until Congress is back in sesion to provide for it?
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"What losers they are.Mccain will take care of them very shortly."

How?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 02/15/2008
- woodchips I'm a Fan of woodchips 2 fans permalink

When will it end? (actually, in 11 months, 6 days, 17 hours, give or take...)

Let's hope these contempt charges amount to something. I may be a little foggy on the details, but it's my understanding that the concept of executive privilege is not inherent to the US Constitution. In 1974, the US Supreme Court ruled that "executive privilege would most effectively apply when the oversight of the executive would impair that branch's national security concerns". Please explain how the firing of federal prosecutors (and a number of other cases where BushCo has claimed this privilege) has anything to do with "national security".

Despite the repubs ranting, we don't EVER need to extend the ill-conceived and hastily passed law that allows spying on US citizens without oversight. The FISA always allowed for the type of monitoring that the fear-mongering crowd says they need from the extension of the current law. It's just that it requires judicial oversight.

"But, but, but...we can't be delayed by having to get warrants", they shout. I call bullshit. As I understand it, FISA allows for monitoring to be initiated up to 72 hours BEFORE getting the warrants. Seems pretty workable to me.

Everything this administration has done reinforces the need for oversight. Remember checks and balances? Whatever happened to that quaint little concept?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 02/15/2008
- queeraz I'm a Fan of queeraz 3 fans permalink

I'm sure there's a signing statement that protects every last crook in this administration from any prosecution. Let's waterboard the bunch of them and see if becomes to be defined as torture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 02/15/2008
- rkrenke I'm a Fan of rkrenke 20 fans permalink

Thanks to each House member who finally stood for the rule of law. Hopefully, John Conyers and Nancy Pelosi have remembered who they are and how much we need their leadership.

The tantrum thrown by John Boehner and his band of corrupt cronies is indicative of just how out-of-touch the GOP leadership is with what the majority of Americans are really thinking. I hope that their constituencies do this country a favor by voting them out of office in November.

And, in spite of Dana Perino’s comments, this is far from a waste of time. The lawlessness of the Bush Administration should be at the top of Congress’ legislative agenda.

Wow! Contempt charges and a repudiation of Bush’s mantra of fear all in one day! This is a great first step – but it is only that as we still have the looming FISA fight. The House needs to hold the line against telecom immunity – the Senate failed the People and this is the House’s opportunity to shine!

As for fears regarding how Wall Street will react to corporations actually being held accountable for breaking the law – the People can always stop shopping, withdraw their money from the multinationals and invest in businesses that have a social conscience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 02/15/2008
- gcallaghan I'm a Fan of gcallaghan 52 fans permalink
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Qwest was the only major telecom that didn't comply with the government's illegal warrantless wiretapping program. They don't offer service in my area or I'd switch to them in a heartbeat. Being a selective shopper is a great first step.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 02/15/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 149 fans permalink

It is almost surreal that Republican members would walk out of the Congress when legislators are simply trying to hold the White House accountable, which is the job of the Congress. It is like Republicans are saying: "You are wasting my time by asking me to do my job." Besides under the former Republican congress, they only worked a three day work week anyway.

And someone should tell Dana Perino that she is wasting the public's time and not the other way around. At least, Tony Snow made spin an art form. Perino often sounds like a spoiled second grader asked to stay after school. In this approach, she and Bush have much in common.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 02/17/2008
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