John McCain Goes After Barack Obama

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First Posted: 02-14-08 09:51 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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UPDATE III:The New York Times discusses the contentious relationship between McCain and Obama that began two years ago during discussions of ethics reform in the U.S. Senate:

In a debate in 2006 on ethics in the Senate, which Mr. McCain regarded as a signature issue, he dressed down Mr. Obama and accused the freshman senator of disingenuousness. Mr. Obama called Mr. McCain cranky.


In public, that dispute melted away when the two cocked their fists at each other and hugged for a mutually beneficial photo opportunity. Their rapport has not advanced, and the two have a distant relationship.The two men are very different. Mr. McCain, 71, is a veteran of political and military battles. Mr. Obama, 46, is community organizer turned Ivy League graduate. Mr. McCain has told friends and associates that he views Mr. Obama as something of an upstart whose charmed political life delivered him to the same place Mr. McCain's decades of public and military service did.

And, associates said, Mr. McCain had always hoped to take on Mrs. Clinton.

UPDATE II: Politico's Jonathan Martin reports: McCain campaign manager Rick Davis "today sent an unmistakable message to Barack Obama over the Illinois Democrat's effort to stoke the obvious age contrast between himself and the 71-year-old McCain: Bring it on.:

"It's nice of him to constantly point out how nice he thinks of John McCain and his half-century of service to our country," Davis said sardonically. "I don't think he can get that ["half-century" line] out enough."


"I actually think half a century of service to our country is a good thing. If you would like to talk about the day John McCain went into the Naval Academy and pledged his loyalty to our country and everything that's happened since then, let's prosecute that. We love those kinds of discussions."

Davis, speaking at a Washington luncheon with reporters, also extended the criticism leveled by his candidate last night, suggesting that the 46-year-old Obama was offering vague rhetoric to mask liberal views.

"I think it's easy to say, 'let's have hope,'" Davis said. "But hope has to come into some form.

And Obama responded to to McCain, telling a crowd in Wisconsin that the GOP senator had "traded principles for his party's nomination."

Obama argued McCain has acted like President George W. Bush on the economy and on the Iraq war.
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"George Bush may not be on the ballot this fall, but his tax cut and his economic policies are... that is a debate that I'm happy to have, because the American people know that Bush's policies have not worked for ordinary Americans," Obama said.

Obama said he was surprised by McCain's recent criticism of his economic policy - direct criticisms McCain started in the last few days.

"Economics is not his strong suit," Obama said with a smile, "he said 'I don't understand economics very well', and after he said that, it shows."

Obama told the audience that he believes McCain's economic policies would be "more of the same" of Bush tax policies - and argued McCain's position has undergone a transformation since running for president.


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UPDATE: John McCain again attacked Obama on Wednesday.

As he did Tuesday night, McCain focused much of his criticism on Obama, Tuesday's winner on the Democratic side.


"I respect him and the campaign that he has run, but there's going to come a time when we have to get into specifics," McCain told reporters Wednesday on Capitol Hill. "I've not observed every speech he's given, obviously, but they are singularly lacking in specifics."

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In his victory speech after the Potomac primaries, John McCain took several thinly veiled shots at Barack Obama, claiming that offering "only rhetoric" to advance the country "is not the promise of hope. It is a platitute."

Hope, my friends, is a powerful thing. I can attest to that better than many, for I have seen men's hopes tested in hard and cruel ways that few will ever experience. And I stood astonished at the resilience of their hope in the darkest of hours because it did not reside in an exaggerated belief in their individual strength, but in the support of their comrades, and their faith in their country. My hope for our country resides in my faith in the American character, the character which proudly defends the right to think and do for ourselves, but perceives self-interest in accord with a kinship of ideals, which, when called upon, Americans will defend with their very lives.


To encourage a country with only rhetoric rather than sound and proven ideas that trust in the strength and courage of free people is not a promise of hope. It is a platitude.

When I was a young man, I thought glory was the highest ambition, and that all glory was self-glory. My parents tried to teach me otherwise, as did the Naval Academy. But I didn't understand the lesson until later in life, when I confronted challenges I never expected to face.

McCain ended the salvo by ripping off one of Obama's signature lines:

As I have done my entire career, I will make my case to every American who will listen. I will not confine myself to the comfort of speaking only to those who agree with me. I will make my case to all the people. I will listen to those who disagree. I will attempt to persuade them. I will debate. And I will learn from them. But I will fight every moment of every day for what I believe is right for t his country, and I will not yield.


And, my friends, I promise you, I am fired up and ready to go.

Meanwhile, TPM's Greg Sargent highlights Obama's speech tonight drawing increasingly clear contrasts with McCain:

When I am the nominee, I will offer a clear choice. John McCain won't be able to say that I ever supported this war in Iraq, because I opposed it from the beginning. Senator McCain said the other day that we might be mired for a hundred years in Iraq, which is reason enough to not give him four years in the White House.


If we had chosen a different path, the right path, we could have finished the job in Afghanistan, and put more resources into the fight against bin Laden; and instead of spending hundreds of billions of dollars in Baghdad, we could have put that money into our schools and hospitals, our road and bridges - and that's what the American people need us to do right now.

And I admired Senator McCain when he stood up and said that it offended his "conscience" to support the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy in a time of war; that he couldn't support a tax cut where "so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate." But somewhere along the road to the Republican nomination, the Straight Talk Express lost its wheels, because now he's all for them.

Well I'm not. We can't keep spending money that we don't have in a war that we shouldn't have fought. We can't keep mortgaging our children's future on a mountain of debt. We can't keep driving a wider and wider gap between the few who are rich and the rest who struggle to keep pace. It's time to turn the page.

UPDATE III:The New York Times discusses the contentious relationship between McCain and Obama that began two years ago during discussions of ethics reform in the U.S. Senate: In a debate in 2006 on ...
UPDATE III:The New York Times discusses the contentious relationship between McCain and Obama that began two years ago during discussions of ethics reform in the U.S. Senate: In a debate in 2006 on ...
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- MidSection I'm a Fan of MidSection 13 fans permalink

Obama will be easier to beat then Hillary. Obama advocates giving lisences to illegal immigrants and wants to raise taxes for his planned increasing of entitlements. Since in office for 3 years, he's raked up about 90 million dollars for private earmarks (PORK) paid by taxpayer money. In McCains whole career his earmarks add up to zero. And let's face it. Obama is naive. It should be fun to watch the most liberal "say nothing" Democrat to be ripped apart by the old lion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 02/14/2008

the old lion is a keating 5 crook who would torture, stay at war for 100 years, and suck the middle class dry to feed the have mores. mccain will get trounced because he is the same old shit with a new grin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 02/14/2008
- MidSection I'm a Fan of MidSection 13 fans permalink

I can't wait until Code Pink and MoveOn.org endorse Obama Osama. THAT will be the last nail in his bid for prez.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 02/14/2008
- MidSection I'm a Fan of MidSection 13 fans permalink

HEY....DID YOU KNOW THAT ONE OF HIS SONS JUST CAME BACK FROM HIS SECOND TOUR IN IRAQ? AND THAT HIS OTHER SON IS ALSO IN THE MILITARY..­..THIS MAN IS HARDLY A COWARD. HE COULD USE HIS SONS TO SHOW HIS CONVICTIONS AND COUNTER OSAMA OBAMA'S INSTINCT TO RUN AND HIDE. MY FRIEND, MCCAIN IS A CLASS ACT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 02/14/2008
- Unsui I'm a Fan of Unsui 9 fans permalink
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"It should be fun to watch the most liberal "say nothing" Democrat to be ripped apart by the old lion".

MidSection: You'll get your chance. And, I'd really like to get a big bet down, with you, on the outcome.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 02/14/2008
- mari2JJ I'm a Fan of mari2JJ 39 fans permalink

Dear MidSection,
May I remind you that this congress follows the last one dominated by Republicans and this one cut the pork earmarks by a huge amount compared with previous Republican controlled Congress. Sorry dear, if being worthy is predicated on the amount of pork ear marks, Obamas wins by a mile. McCain simply uses other methods to reward his friends in the military-industrial complex. You know, approving this god-awful war and approving the drunken spending by this administration over and over again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 02/15/2008
- thirteen13 I'm a Fan of thirteen13 3 fans permalink

Sounds like sheep talk to me.

90 million is chump change compared to the tens of billions of China Iraq War Credit .

McCain is dead on the waterboard. All of McCain's pork is in Iraq and his future wars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 02/15/2008
- GingerB I'm a Fan of GingerB 82 fans permalink
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Nothing can unify the GOP like a Hillary nomination. They'll come out in record numbers to vote against her. Why do you think George Bush, Limbaugh, Coulter, and others are coming out in "support" of her? They want Clinton to get the nomination. It has nothing to do with McCain. They can't beat Obama and they know it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 02/15/2008
- pahpah25 I'm a Fan of pahpah25 6 fans permalink

as a nation....­.we have to get over this obssession with military service as a 'job reference' in politics.m­any men and women have excersized their right to enlist in the military and have completed their tours homourably­..many have died and been serverely wounded...­..however, their military service does not necessarily qualify them to hold the highest office in the land..john mccain is such a man....the fact that he was a P.O.W. only qualifies him as a survivor of harsh conditions­.....many men have survived similar circumstan­ces...what we owe them is respect...­.not our vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 02/14/2008
- Beckyjo I'm a Fan of Beckyjo 3 fans permalink

I hate the way McCain is exploiting the fact that he is wearing the bracelet of a young man in Iraq. He sure doesn't have the class Bob Dole did. Mr. Dole wore a bracelet with John McCain's name on it for years, and no one knew it. He told it only when McCain was freed. This is true patriotism and a class act. McCain is still playing up his years as a POW. Everyone is appreciative of his captivity, but how long do we have to keep up the bowing and scraping toward him? God knows others were captured, and some of them did not return home at all. This is what happens when young men are sent off to war. This is also the main reason we should be so careful before we go to war. The war we are in now was a careless and nonchalant decision, and I have always been struck by the fact that it was decided by old men or cowards who had never and never would be personally engaged in war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 02/14/2008
- MidSection I'm a Fan of MidSection 13 fans permalink

HEY....DID YOU KNOW THAT ONE OF HIS SONS JUST CAME BACK FROM HIS SECOND TOUR IN IRAQ? AND THAT HIS OTHER SON IS ALSO IN THE MILITARY..­..THIS MAN IS HARDLY A COWARD. HE COULD USE HIS SONS TO SHOW HIS CONVICTIONS AND COUNTER OSAMA OBAMA'S INSTINCT TO RUN AND HIDE. MY FRIEND, MCCAIN IS A CLASS ACT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 02/14/2008
- mthespian I'm a Fan of mthespian 3 fans permalink
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Right you are. Parents and children are always so perfectly alike. I didn't agree with many of George H W Bush's policies, but I promise you he's not the mental midget George W has proven to be. I still believe the only reason GW hasn't invaded North Korea is his father threatened to spank him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 02/14/2008
- RS I'm a Fan of RS 5 fans permalink

BIG F***ING DEAL, Mid Section. The son of John McCain that just came back from Iraq probably has a cushy desk job inside the fortified "green zone". If you think he's really in harm's way over there in Iraqnam then you probably believe that pigs can fly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 AM on 02/15/2008
- in4success I'm a Fan of in4success 43 fans permalink

obama's the only candidate still in the race running on a true desire to change and improve america -- all the rest are running for the power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 02/14/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 64 fans permalink

Thousands of us wore POW bracelets during the Vietnam war. Dole was just lucky to have known the man for whom he wore the bracelet. I only know that Sargeant Tabb, whose bracelet I wore did walk off a plane one morning and I was just grateful to know the man whose bracelet I wore, and still have boxed away, did come out alive. I had no connection with him and did not know anything about him, though I always wished I had known more. I would not consider myself a "class" act or a "patriot" for wearing a bracelet any more than consider Bob one for wearing a bracelet with McCain's name on it. It was our way of reminding ourselves that others were suffering or dead while we were home in the comforts America offered us. Of course, in my case the bracelet made my arm break out. I suppose a lot of Washington folks had a McCain bracelet because his Dad was an Admiral they all knew, but for the poor folks in the country, we just bought a bracelet and got whatever name was on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 02/15/2008
- in4success I'm a Fan of in4success 43 fans permalink

all you need to know about john mccain: http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 02/14/2008
- outofhere I'm a Fan of outofhere 5 fans permalink

WOW! McCain is one obnoxious SOB when it comes to beating up on the public. I lost all respect for McCain back in 2000 when he let GWB get away w/ all those lies about McCain's adopted daughter in the SC primary. Next thing you know McCain is GWB's big buddy and chief defender. Does McCain have any soul left to sell?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 02/14/2008
- RedRooster I'm a Fan of RedRooster 21 fans permalink

Someone needs to put that man back on his "Straightjacket Bus".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 02/14/2008
- Zhonni I'm a Fan of Zhonni 15 fans permalink
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And drive him back to the Senate right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 02/14/2008
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I think it's safe to say...than­ks to the current administra­tion...no republican will be president for the next 4 elections.­..hopefull­y more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 02/14/2008
- in4success I'm a Fan of in4success 43 fans permalink

you're in for a rude awakening if hillary's get's the nomination: http://www.lukeford.net/profiles/profiles/huma_abedin.htm

and this is only the beginning of the scandal the GOP have ready to swiftboat her with.

mccain is the "chosen" one . . . friend of the christian zionists. our only hope is obama --- and, sadly that is not even a guarentee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo

wakeup america --- time is running out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 02/14/2008

'I think it's safe to say...than­ks to the current administra­tion...no republican will be president for the next 4 elections.­..hopefull­y more.'

Hopefully, you are correct, but don't count on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 02/14/2008
- Mormondude I'm a Fan of Mormondude 27 fans permalink

"instead of spending hundreds of billions of dollars in Baghdad, we could have put that money into our schools and hospitals, our road and bridges - and that's what the American people need us to do right now."

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"We can't keep mortgaging our children's future on a mountain of debt."

-boggle-

Do Obamaniacs actually think, or do they have to check their brains at the door?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 02/14/2008
- cynic I'm a Fan of cynic 7 fans permalink

Good question. But coming from you it's a bit of a non-sequiter

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 02/14/2008
- Liberal2 I'm a Fan of Liberal2 39 fans permalink

Ummmm, Morondud, infrastructure is an investment that pays dividends. Hoover Dam was built as a public works project during the Depression. It has paid for itself many times over. Los Angeles would have remained a small ciy without it.

You're a walkin', talkin' example of religious wackos being below average in intellect

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 02/14/2008

I guess if Obama is the nominee he won't have to steal Hillary's plans anymore, he can just claim them as his, then he will have some specifics to add to his platitudes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 02/14/2008
- Teddy12 I'm a Fan of Teddy12 3 fans permalink

Isn't that the truth. He has nothing. From a former Senate staffer, Obama would blow into the building surrounded by his male entourage all clad in black shades. Then he would take his seat in the chamber without greeting people. Could that be why HC has more Super Delegates? She's more respected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 02/14/2008
- in4success I'm a Fan of in4success 43 fans permalink

old blue dog -- the truth is to the contrary. bet you didn't know that hillary took an $800,000.0­0 payoff from the health industry to STFU about health care in 1993, did you?

and i bet you didn't know that the hea;th care industry gave more to hillary's bid for prez than any other candidate -- or that the trade off is "mandatory" health care for all US citzens that they will be forced to pay for whether they want it or can afford it or not...and if they do not they will be fined and/or their wages garnished.

seems to me that it is hillary and mccain both stealing from obama's platform.

why don't you assholes do some research and get informed before you spout off campaign talking points or mainstream media BS?

no wonder bush was got through two elections . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 02/14/2008

There were a few times when McCain was a courageous politician like in 2000 when he took on the evangelical right. But boy they taught him a lesson and now he is under his leash.
That's the problem with politician, if they stay too long, either they are beat by the neo-cons, like Fox news, or they comply with them.
Just yesterday McCain changed his stance on torture. Same with Hillary, she tried so hard to look like a neo-con republican that she succeded all too well ... and now there is no Hillary of yester year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 02/14/2008
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I'd like to dedicate this next one to McCain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq0tAoO3-xQ

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 02/14/2008

The only thing worse than George Bush is a man who buddies up to George Bush after he and Karl Rove made roadkill out of him.
The last straw was not McCain's 100 year war statement, it was him voting to allow torture against perceived "enemies."
He's old. He's angry. He's out of touch with not only the wishes of American tax-payers, he's out of touch with reality.
Either Obama or Hillary will kick his saggy old ass back to Arizona, where he can fade into obscurity with the rest of the reptiles out there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 02/14/2008
- noamjunior I'm a Fan of noamjunior 86 fans permalink

John McCain has no chance
He is too crazy to get the independant vote

and too honest to get the conservative vote

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 02/14/2008
- Brebro I'm a Fan of Brebro 4 fans permalink
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I think McCain is just more of the same. I don't want "the same" for my country! I'm voting for Obama. And, I think the superdelegate thing total BS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 02/14/2008
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Hey, speaking of... I think this clip of the Clintons says it all... hehe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgTrigy7UKk

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 02/14/2008
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McCain to Obama is like comparing yesterdays "talkies" to todays cinematic technological advancemen­ts...

Okay, talkies are good to see in short clips, brings back some nostalgia for all those over 90, but who wants them back for good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGXIsI-M2lU


*~*DEMOCRAT 2008*~*

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