Saudis to Execute a Woman for Witchcraft

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DONNA ABU-NASR | February 14, 2008 06:49 AM EST | AP

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BEIRUT, Lebanon — A leading human rights group appealed to Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah on Thursday to stop the execution of a woman accused of witchcraft and performing supernatural acts.

The New York-based Human Rights Watch said in a statement that the kingdom's religious police who arrested and interrogated Fawza Falih, and the judges who tried her in the northern town of Quraiyat never gave her the opportunity to prove her innocence in the face of "absurd charges that have no basis in law."

Falih's case underscores shortcomings in Saudi Arabia's Islamic legal system in which rules of evidence are shaky, lawyers are not always present and sentences often depend on the whim of judges.

The most frequent victims are women, who already suffer severe restrictions on daily life in Saudi Arabia: They cannot drive, appear before a judge without a male representative, or travel abroad without a male guardian's permission.

Witchcraft is considered an offense against Islam in the conservative kingdom.

In Falih's case, the judges relied on a coerced confession and on the statements of witnesses who said she had "bewitched" them to convict her in April 2006, according to the group.

Falih later retracted her confession in court, claiming it was extracted under duress, and said that as an illiterate woman, she did not understand the document she was forced to fingerprint.

"The fact that Saudi judges still conduct trials for unprovable crimes like 'witchcraft' underscores their inability to carry out objective criminal investigations," said Joe Stork, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch.

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There was no immediate comment on the statement from Saudi Arabia, where government offices are closed on Thursdays, the start of the Muslim weekend.

"Fawza Falih's case is an example of how the authorities failed to comply even with existing safeguards in the Saudi justice system," he added.

The Saudi court cited an instance in which a man allegedly became impotent after being bewitched by Falih, the rights group said.

An appeals court ruled in September 2006 that Falih could not be sentenced to death for witchcraft because she had retracted her confession. But a lower court subsequently reissued the death sentence for the benefit of "public interest" and to "protect the creed, souls and property of this country," the group's statement said.

HRW statement came a day after Yakin Erturk, the U.N. special investigator for violence against women, wrapped up a 10-day visit to Saudi Arabia during which she highlighted another controversial case that has attracted international criticism.

Ertuk met with Fatima and Mansour al-Timani, who were forcibly divorced by the wife's family on grounds she had married someone from a lesser tribe.

The couple learned of the divorce on Feb. 25, 2006, when police knocked on their door to serve Mansour the divorce papers.

At a news conference on Wednesday, Erturk said she met the wife and husband who were in a "terrible state of mind" and that Saudi officials had promised her arrangements would be made for the couple's reunion, according to Saudi newspaper Arab News.

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BEIRUT, Lebanon — A leading human rights group appealed to Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah on Thursday to stop the execution of a woman accused of witchcraft and performing supernatural acts. The ...
BEIRUT, Lebanon — A leading human rights group appealed to Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah on Thursday to stop the execution of a woman accused of witchcraft and performing supernatural acts. The ...
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- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 383 fans permalink
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Nice people. I guess we should sell them some more of our top-of-the-line military hardware.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 02/14/2008
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I'm sure Huckleberry got wood after reading this. The evangelicals would do it here if they could get away with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 02/14/2008
- epistrophy I'm a Fan of epistrophy 3 fans permalink

...they used to do it a lot, right here in the good ol' USA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 02/14/2008

SO now, the Muslims being dip-shits are not only the fault of Christians but republicans to boot.

Man, with thinking like that, no wonder the country is going down the toilet. Talk about mindless hate...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 02/15/2008
- TimN I'm a Fan of TimN 19 fans permalink

I got a better idea. Why don't we pull out of Iraq, break off diplomatic and military ties with the Saudis, yank our anti-missile shield out of Eastern Europe and then wait for the Iranians to completely dominate 65% of the world's known oil reserves. Then they can buddy up with Russia and they can both turn off the spicket whenever we don't kowtow.

Great idea, huh? I would like to take credit, but honestly Obama thought of it first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 02/14/2008
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 112 fans permalink
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Iran would dominate? Delusional..there's nothing to support this idea that Iran would go all berserk would we back off.

You're still suffering from Operation Ajax in 1953 and bear along with the British some responsibility for what it the country is today.

Let's topple their regime again and install a puppet..see how it will work out. Hopefully no blowbacks this time around, cross your fingers ladies and gentlemen.

sigh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 02/15/2008
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 112 fans permalink
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Anti-missile shield you should put in your own damn neighborhood.
The world does not need another arms race between USA and Russia.

"Full spectrum dominance" is stupid program.
Arming the fucking space as well, as if we need more weapons..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 02/15/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 383 fans permalink
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So what you're saying is that we need to prop up an oppressive fundamentalist Islamic dictatorship that controls the oil supply, so that a different oppressive fundamentalist Islamic dictatorship doesn't get control of the oil supply. Got it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 02/15/2008

This Bush gossip is so tiresome and unoriginal. Why is every subject on this site always comes down to Bush. What is this, 6 degrees of separation game?

Most of the posters here consider the oppressive Saudi regime only within the context of Bush.

How about viewing Saudi barbarism within the context of Islamic fanaticism????

Isn't this more appropriate?

What, it is not politically correct to attack the religious fanaticism of Muslims?!

Sorry, for stepping on the sacred cow of this site.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 02/14/2008
- unitron I'm a Fan of unitron 19 fans permalink

There's no mention of Bush in the article, and none of it seems to me to be gossip, so are you sure your post wasn't intended for some other article?

Of course others might posit an alternative explanation that involves Bush supporters being delusional in general.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 02/14/2008
- MalloMel I'm a Fan of MalloMel 88 fans permalink
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Magister, why are you here? If "This Bush gossip is so tiresome and unoriginal," maybe you would be happier somewhere else. Or, are you just here to start trouble? This is a Liberal blog site. Again, why are you here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 02/14/2008
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Master of Light, eh?

No Bush Gossip.

Bush Facts.

The Bush/Saudi alliance prevented this country from running towards alternative energy.

Anyway, didn't plan on going to Saudi Arabia anyway, seeing as they don't seem to appreciate my kind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 02/14/2008
- TimN I'm a Fan of TimN 19 fans permalink

As I recall it was the Democrats that have prevented us from drilling in ANWR and off shore continental US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 02/14/2008

It seems to me that a similar story played out in Pennsylvania "once upon a time"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 02/14/2008

The extremists that I say are on your side are worse than the extremists that you say are on my side.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 02/14/2008
- Nommo I'm a Fan of Nommo 77 fans permalink
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What did she do, predict Hillary as a winner?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 02/14/2008

We MUST keep separation of Church and State, separation of Church and State, separation of Church and State, separation of Church and State, separation of Church and State....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 02/14/2008

You mean separation of Mosque and State...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 02/14/2008
- GenXer I'm a Fan of GenXer 20 fans permalink
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Amen to that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 02/14/2008
- ramal I'm a Fan of ramal 68 fans permalink
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These people are our allies? All the oil in the world is not going to make them worth courting. America, I fear, has sown the seeds for a very bitter harvest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 02/14/2008
- tgood I'm a Fan of tgood 8 fans permalink

Ramal, you couldn't have said it more perfectly. If theSaudis are our "friends", then we certainly aren't seeing a clear picture of what our enemies are truly like. Let's pat them on the back, condone them for their barbaric, wealthy culture, donate security for them and even make excuses for their next 9/11 attack.

The stupidity of this government never ceases to amaze me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 02/14/2008

Picking friends among Muslim governments is no easy job.
Most (not all) Muslim states range from corrupt to spectacularly corrupt and from oppressive to fascist radical. Might as well be friends with the ones with money and oil reserves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 02/14/2008
- GenXer I'm a Fan of GenXer 20 fans permalink
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What you fail to realize is that this morning, somewhere in the world terrorist are plotting to attack us. It is better to surrender your freedom to your own government, than to a foreign extremist. I sleigh me (as in, one horse open).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 02/14/2008

Witch Craft?

Oh Yeah, These people really need Nuclear Weaponry!!!!

Whoever thought we could ever negotiate these Barbaric Bedoiuns?

Barack Obama that's who.

Well, he should go over there and use those Superb Oratory Skills of his and Rescue that Young Woman, because if he could pull that off, I would vote for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 02/14/2008
- MalloMel I'm a Fan of MalloMel 88 fans permalink
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Personally, I don't think Obama should interfere in international affairs at this point. That is Bush's job.... I'm waiting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 02/14/2008
- TAC I'm a Fan of TAC 23 fans permalink
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"That is Bush's job.... I'm waiting."

I thought his job was kissing and holding hands with their men...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 02/14/2008

Are you really unaware of the cozy relationship the Bushes have enjoyed with the Saudis?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 02/14/2008

Only with Saudi Royalty...the general public hates bush for proping up these butchers...or "Royal Family" as this administration calls them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 02/14/2008
- MalloMel I'm a Fan of MalloMel 88 fans permalink
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Another thing... I'm glad that you recognize "those Superb Oratory Skills of his." Maybe they'll come in handy when he becomes president. If he misses being elected by one vote, then you can pat yourself on the back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 02/14/2008
- darthmaul I'm a Fan of darthmaul 17 fans permalink

These people live partly in the modern world and partly in the dark ages. If they didn't have oil, nobody would bother with them. It's variations of this kind of thinking (or lack thereof) that generated the majority of the 9-11 terrorists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 02/14/2008
- scrzbill I'm a Fan of scrzbill 69 fans permalink
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If we burn all the bibles we won't have witches.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 02/14/2008
- MalloMel I'm a Fan of MalloMel 88 fans permalink
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scrzbill, that's too rational.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 02/14/2008
- OneWoman I'm a Fan of OneWoman 6 fans permalink

Witchcraft has nothing to do with the Bible, Christianity, Judiasm, Islam, etc. Witches are Pagans and, as such, do NOT believe in Hell, Satan, the devil, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 02/14/2008
- MalloMel I'm a Fan of MalloMel 88 fans permalink
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it's the religionists that stand in judgement of the so called witches. If it wasn't for the religionists, then witches wouldn't amount to anything. They'd just be seen as a bunch of silly people. Not that they are really silly... that's just how they would be perceived. I don't give a damn what witches do as long as they don't hurt anyone. As far as I can see, they do not hurt anyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 02/14/2008
- scrzbill I'm a Fan of scrzbill 69 fans permalink
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Pagans are people that believed in the mother earth and when you say witches that was a term of respect. Witches were a one time the healers and were the tea readers so to speak. I could be called a pagan and I would not consider it to be an insult but a compliment. I do not believe in heaven or hell or the devil. I do believe that we are spiritual beings having a human experience. An evolution if you will to where some day in the hopefully near future (few thousand years) we will all be one spirit and one life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 02/14/2008
- grisgris I'm a Fan of grisgris 3 fans permalink

There is a passage in the Bible that says "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 02/15/2008
- ranger5 I'm a Fan of ranger5 14 fans permalink

I doubt very seriously if anyone in a responsible position in Saudi Arabia actually believes in witchcraft. Like the witchcraft trials in America, this is more about the protection of power and privilege than anything supernatural. Early Christians were worried about "pagans" who didn't subscribe to the newest mythology, so they demonized those folks and called them heretics and witches. It was mostly to protect and propogate the growing power of the church. Recent studies have shown that the Salem witchcraft trials may well have been more about several families competing for power than anything spooky. Obviously, the extremist religious leaders in Saudi Arabia think that they must continue to keep women repressed. What better way than to appeal to the ignorance of an unwashed few and proclaim that a woman is a witch. Any woman will do. An example must be set so that those Saudi females yearning for some basic freedoms don't become too bold. Witches, indeed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 02/14/2008

Bush touts true Democracy in Middle East regions, ...except for Saudi Arabia; he doesn't want to piss-off his oil buddies! One day, the people will stand up and throw out the current oppressive Saudi regime; it's only a matter of time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 02/14/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 223 fans permalink
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Well it wasn't like they were going to eat her afterwards.

Right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 02/14/2008
- MalloMel I'm a Fan of MalloMel 88 fans permalink
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helonias, not to take the seriousness away from this womans plight, but that is really funny. Now, my heart goes out to this poor woman. I would say, "and to her family," but I'm not so sure that they stand with her. If they do, then my apologies. Anyway, I hope Bush intervenes on this woman's behalf. If he is instrumental in saving this woman's life, then maybe that will go toward some small measure in redeeeming his soul... although I feel that if he does intervene, it will be for purely political reasons, but I'll take that. I want this woman to live.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 02/14/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 223 fans permalink
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I am glad that your recognized my absurd remark for an even more absurd situation.

Perhaps some folks will picket the Saudi embassy and use their 1st amendment rights to rescue this poor women.

If I wrote what I really thought of the Saudis I would be quickly flagged

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 02/14/2008
- Mike169 I'm a Fan of Mike169 44 fans permalink
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Attack Iran!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 02/14/2008
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 112 fans permalink
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Yeah, let's try to save one person by killing thousands upon thousands of other.

Good idea

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 02/14/2008
- indypete I'm a Fan of indypete 148 fans permalink
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Worked well in Iraq, didn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 02/16/2008
- antaeus I'm a Fan of antaeus 85 fans permalink
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And in other news, Denmark reprinted THE cartoon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 02/14/2008
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