Saudis to Execute a Woman for Witchcraft

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DONNA ABU-NASR | February 14, 2008 06:49 AM EST | AP

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BEIRUT, Lebanon — A leading human rights group appealed to Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah on Thursday to stop the execution of a woman accused of witchcraft and performing supernatural acts.

The New York-based Human Rights Watch said in a statement that the kingdom's religious police who arrested and interrogated Fawza Falih, and the judges who tried her in the northern town of Quraiyat never gave her the opportunity to prove her innocence in the face of "absurd charges that have no basis in law."

Falih's case underscores shortcomings in Saudi Arabia's Islamic legal system in which rules of evidence are shaky, lawyers are not always present and sentences often depend on the whim of judges.

The most frequent victims are women, who already suffer severe restrictions on daily life in Saudi Arabia: They cannot drive, appear before a judge without a male representative, or travel abroad without a male guardian's permission.

Witchcraft is considered an offense against Islam in the conservative kingdom.

In Falih's case, the judges relied on a coerced confession and on the statements of witnesses who said she had "bewitched" them to convict her in April 2006, according to the group.

Falih later retracted her confession in court, claiming it was extracted under duress, and said that as an illiterate woman, she did not understand the document she was forced to fingerprint.

"The fact that Saudi judges still conduct trials for unprovable crimes like 'witchcraft' underscores their inability to carry out objective criminal investigations," said Joe Stork, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch.

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There was no immediate comment on the statement from Saudi Arabia, where government offices are closed on Thursdays, the start of the Muslim weekend.

"Fawza Falih's case is an example of how the authorities failed to comply even with existing safeguards in the Saudi justice system," he added.

The Saudi court cited an instance in which a man allegedly became impotent after being bewitched by Falih, the rights group said.

An appeals court ruled in September 2006 that Falih could not be sentenced to death for witchcraft because she had retracted her confession. But a lower court subsequently reissued the death sentence for the benefit of "public interest" and to "protect the creed, souls and property of this country," the group's statement said.

HRW statement came a day after Yakin Erturk, the U.N. special investigator for violence against women, wrapped up a 10-day visit to Saudi Arabia during which she highlighted another controversial case that has attracted international criticism.

Ertuk met with Fatima and Mansour al-Timani, who were forcibly divorced by the wife's family on grounds she had married someone from a lesser tribe.

The couple learned of the divorce on Feb. 25, 2006, when police knocked on their door to serve Mansour the divorce papers.

At a news conference on Wednesday, Erturk said she met the wife and husband who were in a "terrible state of mind" and that Saudi officials had promised her arrangements would be made for the couple's reunion, according to Saudi newspaper Arab News.

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BEIRUT, Lebanon — A leading human rights group appealed to Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah on Thursday to stop the execution of a woman accused of witchcraft and performing supernatural acts. The ...
BEIRUT, Lebanon — A leading human rights group appealed to Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah on Thursday to stop the execution of a woman accused of witchcraft and performing supernatural acts. The ...
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- escobar I'm a Fan of escobar 18 fans permalink

They better set her on fire because as the great Pilgrim Christians who run the USA today proved in Salem...yo­u can't drown a witch.
Now. Will Bush and his staff be having tea with the King or will they be be too busy signing papers selling US water suppiles and roads to the Kings cousins in Dubai to view the event live..or dead..or what ever...the­y better burn her...you can't kill a witch with stones or cutting the head off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 02/14/2008
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I'm betting that Bush will do nothing. In this case, I would love to be proved wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 02/14/2008
- Huffyfan I'm a Fan of Huffyfan 11 fans permalink
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It really shocks me that America wants to introduce Democracy in iraq that had New laws to protect women in 1959 (family law) a country that protect christians and they had freedom of worship , a country that had female nuclear scientists and many women with PHDS and Masters degrees , women who drove (but now in Burqas ) women who dress in western clothes and in veils BUT America ignores the most backward country in the Arab world , where Christianity has no place , where women are second class citizens and can not drive and can not be seen in public . in fact Saudi is not threatened by Democracy and is still called friend and ALLY . shocking really .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 02/14/2008
- rixhex56 I'm a Fan of rixhex56 15 fans permalink

yes, Saddam was a secularist, which is ALWAYS preferable to religious leaders. The Saudis are laughing at the U.S., all the way to the bank.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 02/14/2008
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 128 fans permalink
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But Iraq has oil and a controversial leader who was once very good friends with the Bush's. It was only after Saddam didnt do what Bush 1 wanted did the tables turn. Just like it will with Saudi or any other oil country. Just look at the lead up to Iran. Also keep an eye on Venezuela. The only thing that spreading democracy has to do with any of this, is that its the approved excuse by the Bush administration and his corporate friends and leaders.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 02/14/2008
- drumz I'm a Fan of drumz 58 fans permalink
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Sort of but they are really to chicken to go after the Saudis. The neocons only go after 'safe' targets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 02/14/2008
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 128 fans permalink
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I know she is a witch..

She turned me into a Newt!!

Well, I got better..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 02/14/2008
- Gumby123 I'm a Fan of Gumby123 15 fans permalink
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And to think, there's all this clamor about respecting other cultures. Some cultures are downright wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 02/14/2008
- antaeus I'm a Fan of antaeus 85 fans permalink
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Sorry to be a stickler, but nobody is suggesting _blind_ respect. It's OK to draw distinctions--just make it clear to everyone what your basis of evaluation is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 02/14/2008
- antaeus I'm a Fan of antaeus 85 fans permalink
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And Iran recently hanged gay teens. Why does anything surprise anymore? But let's keep repeating, in the words of President Bush, it's a great religion taken over by fanatics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 02/14/2008
- Birdman I'm a Fan of Birdman 34 fans permalink

GeeDubs Saudie buddies at it again, if this were Saddam doing this Bush would have had another excuse to invade Iraq. But Saudi's could fly planes into the WTC and GW would do nothing well not to them anyway he would invade Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 02/14/2008
- desmirl I'm a Fan of desmirl 9 fans permalink

Is there anything sillier than people who are willling to kill over a religious concept? Religions are nothing but crutches for the weak-minded and excuses for really evil people to do really evil things in the name of their ... god. Oh, my...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 02/14/2008
- BigBagel I'm a Fan of BigBagel 29 fans permalink
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Like the monks in Burma.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 02/14/2008
- BigBagel I'm a Fan of BigBagel 29 fans permalink
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and the Quakers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 02/14/2008
- avraamjack I'm a Fan of avraamjack 21 fans permalink
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This may be an atrocity.
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However, if you have had the experience of being poisoned by what are effectively witches, you could feel that burning at the stake would be a reasonable course of action.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 02/14/2008
- grisgris I'm a Fan of grisgris 3 fans permalink

I take it you are one who is afraid of a little gris gris?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 02/14/2008

The only thing poisoned is your mind--by ignorance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 02/14/2008
- geneven I'm a Fan of geneven 6 fans permalink

Yes, but no one has had that experience, because there are no witches.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 02/14/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 229 fans permalink
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The witches didn't cause ergot poisoning silly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 02/14/2008
- indypete I'm a Fan of indypete 148 fans permalink
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The religious right must be creaming their jeans over this one and saying, "Witch-burning is right up our alley...ho­w can we get in on this action?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 02/14/2008
- MalloMel I'm a Fan of MalloMel 88 fans permalink
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You jest, but there are people like that right here in this country. I'm afraid that a lot of them are in the 30 percent who think that Bush is doing a great job. That's kind of bad when you think that only 20 percent more would land this country in a heap of trouble. Actually, we hit that mark in the last election. Kinda scary...hu­h?
God help us!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 02/14/2008
- indypete I'm a Fan of indypete 148 fans permalink
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If God's on the side of the people running our lives, he's not gonna help us. I've been re-reading the Old Testament lately (carefully, not the sanitized version I dealt with in school) and the message I get is, War is good, sex is bad, kill everybody in sight anf God will give you money."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 02/15/2008

The one thing the Soviets got right was banning religion. While I know a number of very honorable and loving people who are religious, I fear religion has caused more human suffering than it has relieved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 02/14/2008
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The Soviets also killed tens of millions of their own people. Do you think any religion would have managed that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 02/14/2008
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 128 fans permalink
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How many Americans are dying or died for Bush's invasion?
How many Americans are dying or died from our Governments policies and lack of which caused the loss of jobs, health care, housing and food for millions of Americans.

So the Soviets only did it directly, and our Government is doing it indirectly. But the results are the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 02/14/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 229 fans permalink
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Um the christians and the aboriginals peoples of north, central south america and australia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 02/14/2008
- TimN I'm a Fan of TimN 19 fans permalink

Every country that has banned religion has been a disaster - every one.

Soviet Union - 61,911,000 democides
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm

Mao Tse-Tung - 70 million
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao:_The_Unknown_Story

Pol Pot - 1.4 million
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot

Kim Jung il, Kim il Sung - 9 million
http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/kim-il-sung.html

Ho Chi Minh - 3 million
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 02/14/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 229 fans permalink
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You forgot the Spanish inquisition and what I mentioned above

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 02/14/2008
- MalloMel I'm a Fan of MalloMel 88 fans permalink
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How about those middle eastern countries?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 02/14/2008
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 113 fans permalink
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Religion does not equal great respect for human life. That was all that was needed in the east, but those leaders had the power to do as they see fit.

Still, if you look what Europe produced all throughout the years. Two world wars, colonialism, slavery etc.. it's a very very bloody history.

And God in his infinite power allowed it all to happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 02/14/2008

You see... this is why organized religion is screwed up, corrupt, and should be done away with.

For all the fighting, dying, killing, anger, depression and strife that people do to each other, all in the name of God... if Jesus/Allah/Xenu or whoever the supreme being is, showed up on our doorstep, they would be burned at the stake or beheaded.

We really are not worthy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 02/14/2008

So is the constitution wrong?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 02/14/2008
- MalloMel I'm a Fan of MalloMel 88 fans permalink
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Country, you are right. If jesus came down today, he'd be in a heap of trouble. We'd taser him and then we'd knock him senseless, and then we'd give him lethal injection. I guess that would be a bit better than what he got before. So maybe that's ok.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 02/14/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 229 fans permalink
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No one would listen to an olive skin man with brown eye and dark curly hair saying that we must love our enemies and beat out swords into plowshares. Epecially the repubs, they would say he was soft on terrorism and should be nailed to a cross

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 02/14/2008
- gonnuts I'm a Fan of gonnuts 15 fans permalink

She obviously didn't float back to the top of the pond.

bush sure calls some strange people his friends.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 02/14/2008

How's this for a great idea? Pull all of our troops out of ALL foreign countries and defend our own borders. Let the people of a country decide what goes on in their country, without interference and only trade with them, not tell them how to live.

Oh, and while we're at it, let this be the last time we elect a brainless nincompoop as President Of The United States.

Unfortunately, the corporations and their wholly owned subsidiaries, the House of Representatives and the Senate, won't allow it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 02/14/2008

I have a problem with this; the world has become too small to let something like this happen, or to say "it is their own country", and turn our backs. As a woman, and I'm not a hardline feminist by any means, I think it is my right as a woman, and my duty as a human being to say "NO!" to the horrible treatment of any woman in any country under any cultural custom. Death for witchcraft in 2008? Comeon! I hope the human rights watch screams to high heaven about this, as they did with the girl who was raped and sentenced to 200 lashes in Saudi not long back . Let the world see Saudi Arabia for what it is, a backwards misogynist country that needs to come into the 21st century.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 02/14/2008
- MalloMel I'm a Fan of MalloMel 88 fans permalink
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I just don't understand why woman in the so called free world put up with this crap. It seems like they would be raising one holy hell. Not just about this but a lot of all the other misogynistic stuff going on, in this country as well as elsewhere. Not to put blacks down, but it reminds me of some blacks who are all to eager to protect the slave mentality. It seems that some (most) women are all to eager to protect the misogynist
mentality. --- FLAME ON----

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 02/14/2008
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 113 fans permalink
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"Let the human mind loose. It must be loose. It will be loose. Superstition and dogmatism cannot confine it." [John Adams]

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 02/14/2008
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 113 fans permalink
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"When dogma enters the brain, all [well, I would say a lot] intellectual activity ceases"
Robert Anton Wilson

"Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy."
--H. L. Mencken

"In those parts of the world where learning and science have prevailed, miracles have ceased; but in those parts of it as are barbarous and ignorant, miracles are still in vogue."
Ethan Allen Reason the Only Oracle of Man, pamphlet, 1784

"Religion ends and philosophy begins, just as alchemy ends and chemistry begins and astrology ends, and astronomy begins." Christopher Hitchens

Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed -- Martin Luther

If my own father were a heretic, I would personally gather the wood to burn him -- Pope Paul IV

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 02/14/2008
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