Saudis to Execute a Woman for Witchcraft

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DONNA ABU-NASR | February 14, 2008 06:49 AM EST | AP

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BEIRUT, Lebanon — A leading human rights group appealed to Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah on Thursday to stop the execution of a woman accused of witchcraft and performing supernatural acts.

The New York-based Human Rights Watch said in a statement that the kingdom's religious police who arrested and interrogated Fawza Falih, and the judges who tried her in the northern town of Quraiyat never gave her the opportunity to prove her innocence in the face of "absurd charges that have no basis in law."

Falih's case underscores shortcomings in Saudi Arabia's Islamic legal system in which rules of evidence are shaky, lawyers are not always present and sentences often depend on the whim of judges.

The most frequent victims are women, who already suffer severe restrictions on daily life in Saudi Arabia: They cannot drive, appear before a judge without a male representative, or travel abroad without a male guardian's permission.

Witchcraft is considered an offense against Islam in the conservative kingdom.

In Falih's case, the judges relied on a coerced confession and on the statements of witnesses who said she had "bewitched" them to convict her in April 2006, according to the group.

Falih later retracted her confession in court, claiming it was extracted under duress, and said that as an illiterate woman, she did not understand the document she was forced to fingerprint.

"The fact that Saudi judges still conduct trials for unprovable crimes like 'witchcraft' underscores their inability to carry out objective criminal investigations," said Joe Stork, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch.

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There was no immediate comment on the statement from Saudi Arabia, where government offices are closed on Thursdays, the start of the Muslim weekend.

"Fawza Falih's case is an example of how the authorities failed to comply even with existing safeguards in the Saudi justice system," he added.

The Saudi court cited an instance in which a man allegedly became impotent after being bewitched by Falih, the rights group said.

An appeals court ruled in September 2006 that Falih could not be sentenced to death for witchcraft because she had retracted her confession. But a lower court subsequently reissued the death sentence for the benefit of "public interest" and to "protect the creed, souls and property of this country," the group's statement said.

HRW statement came a day after Yakin Erturk, the U.N. special investigator for violence against women, wrapped up a 10-day visit to Saudi Arabia during which she highlighted another controversial case that has attracted international criticism.

Ertuk met with Fatima and Mansour al-Timani, who were forcibly divorced by the wife's family on grounds she had married someone from a lesser tribe.

The couple learned of the divorce on Feb. 25, 2006, when police knocked on their door to serve Mansour the divorce papers.

At a news conference on Wednesday, Erturk said she met the wife and husband who were in a "terrible state of mind" and that Saudi officials had promised her arrangements would be made for the couple's reunion, according to Saudi newspaper Arab News.

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BEIRUT, Lebanon — A leading human rights group appealed to Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah on Thursday to stop the execution of a woman accused of witchcraft and performing supernatural acts. The ...
BEIRUT, Lebanon — A leading human rights group appealed to Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah on Thursday to stop the execution of a woman accused of witchcraft and performing supernatural acts. The ...
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- TXfemmom I'm a Fan of TXfemmom 194 fans permalink

Saudi men aren't permitted to be in the presence of women other than their family, so how could she have bewitched him?

This just demonstrates how morally despicable Islam is, and the Saudis are among the worst. This poor woman cannot read, yet they forced her to put her fingerprint on a document which could have said anything.

The world should shun Muslims, as how in the world are we supposed to know which ones are like these crazies and which are not. I do not advocate violence, but Muslims should remain in Muslim countries and leave free, democratic, and tolerant nations alone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 02/14/2008
- grisgris I'm a Fan of grisgris 3 fans permalink

I don't agree with your statement that the world should shun Muslims. I've traveled all over the world and have experienced first hand the contempt the rest of the world has for Americans because of the Bush regime. I didn't vote for Bush and have nothing but contempt for his reign and his policies. However, as an American, I am often subjected to anti-American sentiment because of a President I despise. I am willing to give Muslims (especially Muslim women) the benefit of the doubt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 02/14/2008
- readreza I'm a Fan of readreza 4 fans permalink

ignorant fuck

the world should shun organized religion.

and as morally dispicable as the treatment of women in many 'muslim' countries is, that treatment is NOT Islam. It's fear and hatred - mysogyny in a pure form - even purer than american fake christians'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 02/14/2008
- pkafin I'm a Fan of pkafin 22 fans permalink

How thoroughly insecure do you have to be about your own religion to kill those who don't adhere to it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 02/14/2008
- fearwig I'm a Fan of fearwig 4 fans permalink

Or those who do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 02/14/2008
- pzdoff I'm a Fan of pzdoff 2 fans permalink

About as insecure as those who hanged dozens of "witches" in what is now Massachusetts in the 1690's. P.S. they weren't muslims who did the hanging.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 02/14/2008
- Fuji I'm a Fan of Fuji 11 fans permalink

Thanks for the history lesson. You want to argue that Christians in Plymouth are still looking for witches to burn? More likely they roll their eyes when some wiccan makes a stink about a Christmas tree being on city property.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 02/14/2008
- grisgris I'm a Fan of grisgris 3 fans permalink

The Salem witch trials were more than 300 years ago. In this day of the internet, don't you think the Saudis could have moved a little further ahead than "witchcraft"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 02/14/2008
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Twenty witches, actually--19 hanged, one pressed to death. Over three hundred years ago. And, dammit, we seem to have people even in the USA who still believe in witches, since they think that reading Harry Potter could turn their children into some. Sometimes I think that we are devolving.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 02/14/2008
- RickO I'm a Fan of RickO 56 fans permalink
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I believe the Bible says that too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 02/14/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 270 fans permalink

Hey all you rethugs who want to bomb IRAN because of how evil they, shouldn't we bomb Saudi Arabia?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 02/14/2008
- Sparhawk I'm a Fan of Sparhawk 14 fans permalink

With all the HW we've sold them...it would be like fight ourselves.­..and we can't have that now can we...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 02/14/2008
- fearwig I'm a Fan of fearwig 4 fans permalink

Shouldn't we just uh, stop fucking bombing places under the pretext of wanting to improve their social systems?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 02/14/2008
- 1will I'm a Fan of 1will 34 fans permalink

It's too easy to make fun of this backwards culture so I'll leave it up to others.

Robert Ferrigno's "Prayers For The Assasin" is a fictional look at America with a Muslim majority. It's fiction along the lines of a mystery story but it offers an interesting look at our country ruled by a Muslim government and theocracy. This should be required reading in High School

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 02/14/2008
- fearwig I'm a Fan of fearwig 4 fans permalink

Funny enough, I don't think there's an Adolph Hitler Junior High anywhere in these states, so you're probably shit out of luck on that one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 02/14/2008
- 1will I'm a Fan of 1will 34 fans permalink

I probaly am. Of course it's nice to know I can always provoke some dumbass statement from someone that backs up his opinions with...not­hing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 02/14/2008
- Fuji I'm a Fan of Fuji 11 fans permalink

Read the book and found it fascinating.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 02/14/2008
- 1will I'm a Fan of 1will 34 fans permalink

I just saw his next book, "Sins Of the Assasin" in hardback at Barnes & Noble. It should be good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 02/14/2008
- souris I'm a Fan of souris 11 fans permalink
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......anyb­ody else feel like they have entered a time warp, and found themselves in the twilight zone???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 02/14/2008

Where are US Women's groups?
Where is CAIR on this one?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 02/14/2008
- Sumocat I'm a Fan of Sumocat 32 fans permalink

"The fact that Saudi judges still conduct trials for unprovable crimes like 'witchcraft' underscores their inability to carry out objective criminal investigations," -- Big deal. We launch wars over unprovable crimes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 02/14/2008

Those manly Saudi men are sure afraid of women!

Why, they've got to keep them all locked up so they dont go off and try somthing subversive like trying to drive a car or talking with strange men or... bewitching them!

Those macho Saudi men gotta keep their women from getting in the way so they can walk around holding hands with each other!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 02/14/2008
- Moshe I'm a Fan of Moshe 208 fans permalink
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"case underscores shortcomings in Saudi Arabia's Islamic legal system in which rules of evidence are shaky, lawyers are not always present and sentences often depend on the whim of judges"

The U.S. used to have a leg to stand on in making objections to human rights violations and kangaroo trials in third world nations.

But much to the delight of Bin Laden, and Co., in our post 9-11 pants wetting fits in the U.S. we have allowed our own government to travel well down the road to these same vile ends: A nation that neither respects human rights, due process, or the Rule of Law.

The Puritans, the radical fundamentalists of their day, conducted "witch hunts" for fun and profit, executing their political enemies, coercing young women into sexual favors under threat of being accussed as a witch, and other similar vile abuses of their arbitrary and absolute power (turns out Lord Acton was right of course).

And we have no shortage of radical fundamentalists today that can't wait to get back to the "good ole days" in which the minister and deacons welded unquestionable power in their communities, literally the power of life or death over others.

Fundamentalism, and the easily manipulable ignorance it creates, is a plague on humanity, whether it be fundamentalism in religion, fundamentalism in government (i.e. George W. declaring "you are either with us or against us"; ignorantly dividing the whole world into either unquestioningly loyal allies or absolute enemies), fundamentalism in education (i.e. the simple but patently false assumptions underlying the "No Child Left Behind Act"), fundamentalism in any form is dangerous and creates a culture that is dangerously easy to corrupt and manipulate.

I guess those that don't learn their history, and learn from their history, are doomed to repeat it, again and again . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 02/14/2008
- HamletsMill I'm a Fan of HamletsMill 245 fans permalink
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Very well said, sir.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 02/14/2008

What a wonderful society the Saudi's have. Not at all like the society that evil Saddam had in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 02/14/2008
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 67 fans permalink

Bush, Cheney, Rice, Wolfowitz will be watching!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 02/14/2008
- rwe I'm a Fan of rwe 21 fans permalink

and Barack will be hoping for something, don't know yet for what bet he will be audacious

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 02/14/2008

Damn witches!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 02/14/2008
- PackyJ I'm a Fan of PackyJ 16 fans permalink
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Does she weight the same as a duck?

Then she's made of wood, and she's a witch!

Burn her!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 02/14/2008

and what is the airspeed velocity of a sparrow carrying a coconut? What do you mean, African or European?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 02/14/2008
- FOTH I'm a Fan of FOTH permalink

Our "Partners in Peace"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 02/14/2008
- rwe I'm a Fan of rwe 21 fans permalink

ahhh the cult of peace and tolerance.­. better not print any cartoons. Hey CAIR, NOW, NARAL , American islamists.­. ANY outrage? Or will you be as despicable as prograssive America hating libs who will rail against the USA as seen below and above

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 02/14/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 270 fans permalink

We America Loving Libs have been complaining about Saudi Arabia while you America hating rethugs kiss and hold their hands.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 02/14/2008

you're an idiot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 02/14/2008
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