Bush Says Congress Putting US in Danger

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PAMELA HESS | February 15, 2008 05:43 PM EST | AP

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President Bush pauses as he answers questions on the "Protect America Act", Thursday, Feb. 14, 2008, on the South Lawn of the White House in Washington. The president said he will delay his five-nation trip to Africa if necessary to help members of the House pass a bill governing U.S. eavesdropping on phone calls and e-mails of suspected terrorists. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

WASHINGTON — With a government eavesdropping law about to expire, Washington is awash in accusations over who's to blame. President Bush said Friday that "our country is in more danger of an attack" because of Congress' failure to adopt a Senate bill that would have renewed a law that made it easier for the government to spy on foreign phone calls and e-mails that pass through the United States.

That bill also would have shielded from lawsuits telecommunications companies that helped the government wiretap U.S. computer and phone lines after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks without clearance from a secret court that was established specifically to oversee such activities. In its competing version of the legislation, the House intentionally left out that feature.

"American citizens must understand, clearly understand that there's still a threat on the homeland. There's still an enemy which would like to do us harm," Bush said. "We've got to give our professionals the tools they need, to be able to figure out what the enemy is up to so we can stop it."

"By blocking this piece of legislation, our country is more in danger of an attack," he said.

Democrats, in turn, accused Bush of fear-mongering and misrepresenting the facts.

"This is not about protecting Americans. The president just wants to protect American telephone companies," Rep. Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, head of the House Democratic Caucus, said Friday.

Beyond the rhetoric, the central issue is what the government can and can't do come midnight Saturday, when a temporary eavesdropping law adopted by Congress last August expires.

That law let the government initiate wiretaps for up to one year against a wide range of targets. It also explicitly compelled telecommunications companies to comply with the orders, and protected them from civil lawsuits that may be filed against them for doing so.

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But while the wiretaps can go on after the law expires, the compliance orders and the liability protections disappear. That's because of a quirk in the way the law was written, says Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell.

"There is no longer a way to compel the private sector to help us," he said in an Associated Press interview.

Democrats dispute that assertion. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said that even when the law expires, existing wiretapping orders would continue to protect telecom companies.

Regardless of who's right about that point, the government can eavesdrop after the law expires. It would simply have to go back to its old procedures, getting orders approved by the super-secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

McConnell rejects that option. He says the process of getting court orders is cumbersome and ties intelligence agents up in red tape.

The 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) requires the court to approve wiretaps inside the United States, a process meant to protect U.S. citizens from potential government abuses of authority. But changes in technology since then mean most of the world's computer and phone traffic passes through the United States, much of it on fiber-optic cable. Successive court cases say court orders are needed to listen in on any of them, McConnell said.

To get a court order, intelligence agents have to prove they have "probable cause" to believe a target is a foreign agent or terrorist before being allowed to tap a line inside the United States, even if the communication originates and ends in a foreign country.

It is difficult for intelligence agents piecing together shreds of information to get enough to merit probable cause, McConnell said. By the time they can amass enough information to do that, the phone number they wanted to track might already be obsolete, he said.

"More than likely we would miss the very information we need to prevent some horrendous act from taking place in the United States," he said.

The FISA law does make provisions for emergencies _ instances where there is no time to fill out the paperwork. Within a few days, though, the paperwork must be completed and probable cause must be proved to get an order approved.

House Democrats had sought to extend the current law temporarily to buy time to work out a longer-term compromise. The White House objected, and the attempt failed as Republicans were joined by conservative Democrats to defeat the move. McConnell acknowledged that the administration's opposition was intended to pressure Congress to do what Bush wants.

McConnell says an extension would fail to address a central problem: delaying legal immunity for companies that help in the warrantless wiretapping program could lead phone companies to challenge wiretapping orders in court as a way to insulate themselves from future lawsuits.

Already, he says the roughly 40 lawsuits filed against telecom companies nationwide have chilled the private sector's willingness to help the intelligence agencies in ways unrelated to electronic surveillance. Exactly how is classified, and he won't elaborate.

"I'm talking about the things they've done to help us track terrorists," said McConnell. "They did lawful things at the request of the government under the conditions they've done it for 50 years."

But that help has waned over the last two years, he said. "Your country is at risk if we can't get the private sector to help us, and that is atrophying all the time," he said.

Lawmakers left town Thursday for a 12-day recess but both sides are working behind the scenes. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney met with Republican congressional leaders in the Oval Office to discuss the impasse with the Democratic-led House. House and Senate Democratic leaders met in Hoyer's office to hammer out plans for a conference in which Republicans will be asked to join, Hoyer said. Republicans say they won't participate.

WASHINGTON — With a government eavesdropping law about to expire, Washington is awash in accusations over who's to blame. President Bush said Friday that "our country is in more danger of an att...
WASHINGTON — With a government eavesdropping law about to expire, Washington is awash in accusations over who's to blame. President Bush said Friday that "our country is in more danger of an att...
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Bush made the world less safe by taking his eye of Afghanistan and going into Iraq because of "better targets." He made the world less safe by not having a better plan for war or a plan for maintaining the peace. He made the world less safe by putting incompetents in positions of power here and in Iraq. He made the world less safe by not listening to ANYONE about ANYTHING, except for Dick and the deaf, dumb, blind neoconpoops spouting out sunny prognostications. He made the US less safe by insisting on not following FISA or any other inconvenient laws. All he had to do was work with Congress to craft a workable law a majority could agree on and pass. Now he has the temerity to blame Congresss.

IF he were a CEO of a major company, the Board of Directors would have fired his sorry ass a long time ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 02/15/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 169 fans permalink

Bush is basically a salesman at heart. He probably does not understand the wiretapping program or exactly who we are wiretapping, but simply thinks we need it and therefore tries to sell it to the public using pressure techniques on Congress, which have always worked in the past.

He sold us the war in Iraq without understanding how our occupation would be resented by the locals and without even understanding the plans for reconstruction after the war, if any such plans existed.

He sold us himself without bothering to tell us of all his limitations, including a non-descript attention span, poor reading habits, and no interest in the details of the job.

He will soon try to sell us the illusion he was an effective president, when we know he was a disaster. Mr. Bush, please return to Crawford. America is exhausted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 02/15/2008
- dwillisno1 I'm a Fan of dwillisno1 62 fans permalink
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I suspect that most Americans are much less concerned with whether tel companies are bankrupted by suits as they are that somehow we just find out all the truth. Knowing the full extent that this admin has gone and what we need to do to make sure it never happens again is most important. Limit the financial liability in order to mget the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 02/15/2008
- HLMerkin I'm a Fan of HLMerkin 2 fans permalink
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 02/15/2008

If you've got AT&T, dump 'em. Lawbreakers don't deserve your business.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 02/15/2008
- pzdoff I'm a Fan of pzdoff 2 fans permalink

Interesting isn't it, that within minutes of exercising our first amendment rights by posting on the web, the government knows who we are, and where we are, and everything else about us. All this for exercising a constitutional right. We are no danger to our country, only to the criminals in this administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 02/16/2008

pzdoff; but don't you know that the politicians and wealthy are " this country" we the people are of no consequence. 1776

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 02/16/2008
- Irons I'm a Fan of Irons 2 fans permalink

Huff 'n Puffers, Bush went AWOL from the National Guard during VietNam so he could snort and drink. Then his Dad gave him an oil company and W promptly ran it into the ground. Then Dad got him a baseball team and W even turned that sucker into a plate of rotten oysters. OMG, Bush somehow then becomes president, and now he about to leave the US economy in shambles and Iraq a bloody stump.

Heckuva job, Mr. Potato Head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 02/15/2008

US Says Congress and Bush Putting America in Danger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 02/15/2008
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Congress is a danger not to the US but to bu$h, now that they're on to him.

Since before 9-11, since he took office in Jan 2001, bu$h been spying on his political enemies, namely, everyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 02/15/2008

America’s selection of a follower for president instead of a leader, for the most powerful country in the world, guaranteed a disastrous outcome domestically and internationally! American citizens have experienced one firestorm after another domestically and internationally!

Before America engaged in its expensive rampage of the Ottoman Empire it would have been a good idea for the neoecons, and the federal officials to peruse the King-Crane Commission Report completed in 1919? This finding in this early 20th century report predicts the events the world has witnessed in the Middle East with unbelievable clarity. The insights gained from the King-Crane Commission Report would have given American Congressional Leaders the platform to coherently evaluate the apparent ease of implementing the Wolfowitz Middle East Campaign objectives.

American presidential candidates are marketing experience as a means to discount hope! President Bush has completed almost 2 terms as president. A large number of Democrats and Republicans were aware of the Middle East national security platform based upon the Wolfowitz Middle East Plan they approved. How many Americans citizens would follow President Bush across their front lawns – IF THEY STILL OWN THEM???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 02/15/2008

Unless the congress votes to impeach, a petition won't cut it. We the American people have to get mad as hell. We have to do what they do in other countries, that is literally protest in the streets, voicing our opposition until someone listens. We are too soft on our politicians, nobody wants to rock the damn boat, well, ya can't have it both ways. What Bush and the dems want, and yes the dems are as guilty as the republicans despite thier protests, is to become a facist state. Folks, this is the US, and until someone from the dead comes and literally changes the constitution, its still the Bill of Rights. Nobody can change it unless we ALL agree. Its illegal what they are doing, treason. Dammit, wake the hell up and make your voices heard, demand impeachment of Pelosi and others if they don't choose to back our Bill of Rights. She is as guilty as the rest who signed off on this bill. Protest dammit, be heard. If not, I don't want to see or hear you complain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 02/15/2008
- SirReal1 I'm a Fan of SirReal1 65 fans permalink

It's a pretty simple rule:

Bush said it!

It MUST BE A LIE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 02/15/2008

Let's talk right here. What is really in jeopardy here is the ability for telephone companies to be protected for cooperating with the spying, not the spying itself. This is what stops this weekend. Bush can still do his spying thing right now. Bush is up to his fear mongering again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 02/15/2008
- 23000Days I'm a Fan of 23000Days 121 fans permalink
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Actually, if the telecom lawsuits proceed, much will be learned about the illlegality of the spying program, and the complicity of the executive branch.
By trying to shelter the telecoms, chimpy is desperately trying to cover his own ass!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 02/15/2008
- syllepsis I'm a Fan of syllepsis 24 fans permalink

McConnell is a terrible liar.
You can tell he doesn't get a pathological enjoyment out of it, like his boss does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 02/15/2008
- paixa3 I'm a Fan of paixa3 25 fans permalink

Fuck bush.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 02/15/2008

NOTE TO CHIMPY:

You lie like you breathe. Can you say "Qwest?" I knew you could, you dumb stump.

How does it feel to be deeply, viscerally loathed by the vast majority of Americans, you traitorous, talentless sock puppet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 02/15/2008
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He doesn't care; that's why he keeps telling us "history" will judge his presidency, and that takes so much time.

He needs that rationalization to hide from the disaster he and conservatism have foisted on the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 02/16/2008
- Moshe I'm a Fan of Moshe 215 fans permalink
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Note to HuffPo Posters:

Some outstanding posts today. Inspiring reading. Thank you all.

I see posts from intelligent, informed, thoughtful, caring people who want nothing more than to see their nation back on the path of justice and the Rule of Law, the same spirit that created a free nation despite the determination of King George that they would remain subjugated to his tyranny.

Our own King George (the W.), also holds himself above the common rule of law. He is traitorously wrong of course, just as the other King George, and our ancesters rammed his self-proclaimed unquestionable authority over us right up his arrogant a-s with the unstoppable boot of freedom and justice.

Our current King George and his fleet of traitorous flying monkeys can expect the same.

It is heartening to see fellow Americans that care about freedom and the future of this great Nation.

Ignore the trolls and other Bush-Bot boot-lickers. These traitors to their own nation and People have always been among us. They sided with the British during the revolution. They side with those today that show contempt for our Constitution, human rights, common decency, and the Rule of Law.

All of these would-be rulers and their assorted opportunistic sychophants will have their place on the trash heap of history, sweep aside in the persistent march toward human progress and a better future.

Never give up on the future and what is right, never.

"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always." Mahatma Ghandi

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 02/15/2008
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Moshe, you are my mentor but try as I do
it is hard to stay above all the bitterness
the trolls bring out by attacking the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 02/15/2008
- Moshe I'm a Fan of Moshe 215 fans permalink
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Speakingtruth:

Shalom good friend.

You are too kind, and I must in truth confess to far too often being provoked into some unflattering comments here! ;-)

I think though, that even the most righteous among us would be cursing at these nudniks!

They make me chaloshes! ;-)

Nonetheless, we do our best!

Shalom to all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 02/15/2008
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