Christine Pelosi: Superdelegates Should Not Overturn Majority Dem. Vote

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First Posted: 02-15-08 12:10 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Christine Pelosi, daughter of the Speaker and (more notably at the moment) a superdelegate, warns of a massive disillusionment of voters should Democratic Party officials back a presidential nominee that didn't win the pledged delegate vote.

"Many of us are elected by the grassroots of the party," she said, "And I cannot imagine going home in November to those people and try to phone bank for someone who did not capture the [pledged delegate] vote... We were all galvanized by what happened to Al Gore in Florida."

Pelosi, who has been a DNC member since 1996 and recently authored the book "Campaign Boot Camp," acknowledged being petitioned heavily from campaign surrogates but declined to say whom she would support. She did, however, list different attributes upon which her superdelegate vote will be based: "Who is building a base of volunteers, who is bringing the party together - the best indicators of future performance."

In her interview with the Huffington Post, she spoke freely and at length about some of the challenges facing the 796 superdelegates as the presidential nomination seemingly falls into their laps. What, for instance, should the party do about the primary elections in Michigan and Florida, which did not, according to DNC rules, carry any delegates, but which the victorious Hillary Clinton campaign is hoping to have counted?

"Of course they should be involved. I can't imagine a scenario personally where they are not. The question is how?" said Pelosi. She then playfully suggested a novel idea: splitting the state's delegates 50/50 to Obama and Clinton. It would, she argued, allow for representation from each state while not changing the dynamics of the race in one candidate's favor. Of course, she added, "Ideally we sit back and let the process do its will and by the time you get to June it won't matter."

In a separate interview Friday with Bloomberg TV, Christine's mother, Nancy Pelosi, went a step further, arguing that the Florida and Michigan primaries shouldn't decide the party's nomination. "I don't think that any states that operated outside the rules of the party can be dispositive of who the nominee is,'' Pelosi told Al Hunt. She also addressed the power wielded by the super-delegates, dismissing concerns that they vote against the will of the majority of Democratic voters.

"It's not just following the returns; it's also having a respect for what has been said by the people,'' she said. It would be "a problem for the party if the verdict would be something different than the public has decided."

Reflecting her mother's remarks, Christine Pelosi also sought to debunk the perception that super delegates were just cigar smoking -- "my mother won't allow that" -- backroom dealing, political bigwigs willing to trade their votes at the Democratic National Convention for patronage.

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"We are paying attention," she said, "What we are supposed to do is enhance the process not step on it."

As evidence, the Speaker's daughter riffed on a variety of political and campaign topics. Pelosi showed little patience for the most recent line of attack by the Clinton campaign, which has accused Obama of ducking debates in Wisconsin.

"It is always sort of a stunt when you call for a debate," she said. "If they really wanted a debate you know, Howard [Wolfson] has David [Axelrod]'s phone number. They could arrange this if they really wanted to... This silly fight over a debate or a snub or this or that is really dumb."

But her most critical words were saved for the Republican side of the political aisle.

"John McCain is George Bush's third term," she said of the GOP frontrunner, "and I just don't believe the American people want to elect George Bush for a third term."

As for former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee's decision to stay in the race against the most unlikely of odds: "Can't Fox give him a talk show or something?"

Mostly, however, Pelosi offered a cautiously optimistic outlook for the Democrats in 2008. There is a historic nature to the election, she posited, a chance to bring and secure a new generation of voters in the political process. And absent a major screw-up, Democrats could ride that wave to long-term victories.

"I think that if we can capture and hold the enthusiasm of the 20 million Americans who have come out to vote so far," Pelosi said, "and the millions more who will by the time our nomination process if over, if we can keep those people organized and energized we will win."

Christine Pelosi, daughter of the Speaker and (more notably at the moment) a superdelegate, warns of a massive disillusionment of voters should Democratic Party officials back a presidential nominee t...
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And what if Clinton wins the popular vote? Would it be a betrayal if Superdelegates followed the popular vote? Of course it would...that is, if Obama loses the popular vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 02/15/2008
- indie17 I'm a Fan of indie17 9 fans permalink

Obama is winning the popular vote. With the way that pledged delegates are assigned in the remaining contests, the winner of the popular vote will be the winner of the pledged delegates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 02/16/2008

The media has been giving false information about Obama, at the expense of Hillary Clinton.
I was against super-delegates at first, but
now I'm starting to see where they may have a place in making sure the most qualified person
gets nominated, not the "rock star" who is married to "Omarosa"..the first female black
president, who is calling the shots in his campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 02/16/2008
- bushmocker I'm a Fan of bushmocker 7 fans permalink

If we could get Nancy organized and energized maybe she'd do the peoples work?Nah,it was just a fleeting thought.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 02/15/2008

The Republicans must be dancing in Florida knowing that the Republican controlled state congress moved up the primary and the Democrats were stupid enough to totally disenfranchise their voters. How dumb can the DNC be? Now they have probably insured that Florida will once again go Republican in November.

I'm sure though he doesn't support letting their votes count now, Mr. Obama will graciously want them to count after he wins the nomination, but not one second before. I hope they all tell him in November to go piss up a rope!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 02/15/2008
- rivrgrrl I'm a Fan of rivrgrrl 125 fans permalink
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The Florida and Michigan messes are not the fault of the DNC. The Dem voters in those states have their state party leaders to thank, for trying to operate outside the rules. The national party leadership told them not to move their dates up, but the state party leaders to the nationals to take a hike. Well, they made their bed, let them answer to their voters.

Personally, I'd like to see the voters be able to make their voices heard and counted. A second caucus or primary could be held. Then we will see a more accurate picture of what the people want, as Obama wasn't on the ticket in Michigan and none of the candidates actively campaigned in those states.

But it is directly up to the state voters to hold their state party leaders accountable for trying to operate outside the rules. If you don't like a rule, you work to have it changed, not by breaking the rule for selfish gain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 02/15/2008

McCain will win if Obama gets nominated. There
are an awful lot of Hillary supporters Who Will
Not Vote for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 02/16/2008

Christine, your mother has fucked the democratic party to the point of no return.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 02/15/2008

Correction: not just the party, the NATION.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 02/15/2008
- MinerSam I'm a Fan of MinerSam 17 fans permalink

That's right the Delegates should vote for Hillary on behalf of the voters of Florida and Michigan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 02/15/2008
- indie17 I'm a Fan of indie17 9 fans permalink

If you add in Florida and Michigan right now, Obama is still ahead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 02/16/2008

in your dreams...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 02/16/2008
- bushmocker I'm a Fan of bushmocker 7 fans permalink

I haven't read the rules anywhere but heard Randi Rhodes say the rules are no state delegates should be counted if they caucus or hold a primary election before Super Tuesday.Supposedly the only reason they count Iowa and other states before Super Tuesday is tradition.Does anyone have any info on this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 02/15/2008
- lungfish I'm a Fan of lungfish 106 fans permalink
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I think that the majority should overturn Madame Speaker Pelosi.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 02/15/2008

These two left coast liberal bimbos probably got a nice little piece of Obamas 700k in bribes to super delegates and Isuppose this is their way of saying they are going to vote against the people of California who overwhelmingly voted for Ms Clinton, Obama and his whiney ass far left liberal freinds need to stop crying. Obama is a skinny ass pussy whipped sissy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 02/15/2008
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I suggest you check the delegate count. They split was damn near equal between Obama and Clinton. This is caused by the peculiarities in how California delegates are divided. The question then is this: Does Pelosi vote according to the majority of the voters in her state or the majority of the voters in her district? My point is that attemptingto over simplify a complex issue to win an argue or to prove a point has no validity in the end. My advice to the Pelosis is to follow the wishes of their district consituents because the total popular vote in California rather meaningless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 AM on 02/16/2008
- kburlz I'm a Fan of kburlz 23 fans permalink

Who is crying now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 02/16/2008
- IkeChicago I'm a Fan of IkeChicago 18 fans permalink

From the start of the campaign Hillary had a plan to bury Barack Obama, so she promised the VP spot to Evan Byah. As VP Byah would have been running in 8 years as a sitting VP so Obama would have had an uphill battle in 8 years and thereby burying Obama. Why you say, well Hillary really resented Barack Obama for entering the senate not as a freshman, but as a rock star, casting a shadow on her. Didn't work, rock stars don't just fade away.

Now Hillary has no chance of overtaking Obama with pledge delegates what plan is she now perusing, it is not clear but I suspect her present plan is a scorched earth plan. If Hillary can't win, her plan maybe to stop Obama from winning so that she could survive to run again in four years. To hell with the democratic party, Hillary is in it for Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 02/15/2008
- RealistDem I'm a Fan of RealistDem 2 fans permalink

If Hillary would have her way we would of just had the super delegates appoint her and not bothered with the pesky voters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 02/15/2008

Now can Ms Pelosi tell us why the delegates from MI and FLA should be split 50/50 since that is NOT how the citizens voted? Will you all do anything to get this guy the nomination? Will you lie, cheat, steal and disenfranchise? What is it you won’t do, perhaps let the Democrats vote. Why should any of this matter, maybe we should just let the supreme court decide it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 02/15/2008
- kburlz I'm a Fan of kburlz 23 fans permalink

"that is NOT how the citizens voted"

Actually, most citizens didn't vote at all because they were told it wouldn't count anyway. Would you have gone to vote anyway if you had a life? It's just Billary trying to change the rules in the middle just like in the Nevada caucas.

The nevada caucus, where, according to Bill's logic, the Casinos where the Clinton's ended up winning counted for 5 times more than other voters, yet somehow, Obama was able to win the delegate count despite losing by 5%. Explain that one Bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 02/16/2008
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 143 fans permalink
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If she grew up learning from her mother, then she is probably lying. Lets hope she is not. But I would suspect the apple doesnt fall far from the tree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 02/15/2008
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Asked privately why he voted against condeming certain techniques of torture, Senator McCain responded, "It was silly. What the hell do diving boards have to do with torture?"

Also asked his position on a new Republican abortion bill, Senator McCain responded, "Hell, just tell them to pay it!"

"Non dementica, please don't forget you are...."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 02/15/2008
- horacekent I'm a Fan of horacekent 10 fans permalink

**** HILLARY TARGETS NEW CONSTITUENCY: Retarded People.

Camp Clinton releases a new Music Video.

It appears the video is aimed at capturing the Retard Vote - A group most liking to relate to Hillary Clinton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UefSpWGD19k

Great Luck!
~HK

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 02/15/2008
- plages I'm a Fan of plages 19 fans permalink

The trust is absolutely broken, and some would say that your mother has a hint of cigar smoke about her! Let's see, what was it that your mother said, "Oh yea, "IMPEACHMENT IS OFF OF THE TABLE!" I guess that our "Constitution" is also off of the table, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 02/15/2008
- bushmocker I'm a Fan of bushmocker 7 fans permalink

Fer Chrissakes,it's only a piece of paper.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 02/15/2008

DISPATCHES FROM THE GROUND WAR ...

SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE SAYS PELOSI'S WORDS ARE MUSIC TO OBAMA'S EARS ...

Pelosi: Don't overrule the voters

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi -- who may be the most super delegate of all as chair of the Democratic national convention in Denver -- gave an interview with Bloomberg TV's Al Hunt in which she laid down the law for super delegates:

Don't veto the people's choice.

"I think there is a concern when the public speaks and there is a counter-decision made to that," she said, adding quickly, "I don't think that will happen."

She said the governors, lawmakers, DNC members and others picked as super delegates are chosen through a grassroots process and are accountable to the party's voters.

"I do think that they have a respect -- it's not just following the returns, it's also having a respect for what has been said by the people," Pelosi said. "It would be a problem for the party if the verdict would be something different than the public has decided."

That message will be music to the ears of Barack Obama, who's building a lead in pledged delegates and is urging the super delegates to follow the voters. ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 02/15/2008

Listen up, Pelosi. Its gonna be a problem for the party if Obama gets nominated. Hillary
supporters are Not voting for Obama and "Omarosa."
McCain will most definitely win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 02/16/2008
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